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diff -w -u -r1.1259 -r1.1260
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/30 14:38:03 1.1259
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/30 16:38:05 1.1260
@@ -227,6 +227,15 @@
 
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
+###### {#sbrvk_2020_WI_voter_purge_list}
+
+[2020 WI voter purge list](#sbrvk_2020_WI_voter_purge_list)
+:   <https://nitter.net/Greg_Palast/status/1309653563610595329#m>
+
+    Check for your name here: <https://www.savemyvote2020.org/wisconsin-voter-purge-list-2020/>
+
+---
+
 US B52s flying regularly along Russian border. Russian pilots losing patience.
 :   [9/25/20 Gilbert Doctorow on the US Government’s Provocative Russia Policy | interview - mp3](https://dissentradio.com/radio/20_09_25_doctorow.mp3)
 
@@ -1760,30 +1769,25 @@
 
 > **https://zq3q.org/pco/playlist.pls**
 
+## linux VLC | hotkey
+
 Open [VLC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player), and "type":
 
 > Ctrl-v
 
-Click on 'Play' -- now my playlist should be loaded and started in VLC.
 
-On macOS use
-
-> Command-v
-
----
+## linux or macOS | dialog box or menu
 
 In VLC
 
 > | Ctrl-n
 > | ( Command-n in macOS )
 
-allows you to paste in a playlist URL in a dialog box.
+allows you to paste in the playlist URL in a dialog box.
 The same step using the menu is:
 
 > Media > Open Network Stream...
 
-
-
 ###### {#blklc_Podcast_Playlist_updated_nightly}
 
 # [Long Podcast Playlist, updated nightly](#blklc_Podcast_Playlist_updated_nightly)
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diff -w -u -r1.1258 -r1.1259
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/29 12:38:05 1.1258
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/30 14:38:03 1.1259
@@ -227,7 +227,7 @@
 
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
-US B52's flying regularly along Russian border. Russian pilots losing patience
+US B52s flying regularly along Russian border. Russian pilots losing patience.
 :   [9/25/20 Gilbert Doctorow on the US Government’s Provocative Russia Policy | interview - mp3](https://dissentradio.com/radio/20_09_25_doctorow.mp3)
 
     <https://scotthorton.org/interviews/9-25-20-gilbert-doctorow-on-the-us-governments-provocative-russia-policy/>
@@ -236,15 +236,13 @@
 ---
 
 <https://www.rapidtests.org/>
-:   > Rapid, inexpensive paper strip tests can tell you whether you are
-    > contagious. Research shows that if taken frequently, these tests could help
-    > drive COVID-19 infections close to zero.
+:   Rapid, inexpensive paper strip tests can tell you whether you are
+    contagious. Research shows that if taken frequently, these tests could help
+    drive COVID-19 infections close to zero.
 
 ---
 
- tweet: 70yr old Prof Mark Crispin Miller on dangerous/effective propaganda in USA: https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
-
-<https://www.rapidtests.org/>
+tweet: 70yr old Prof Mark Crispin Miller on dangerous/effective propaganda in USA: https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020 
 ###### {#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
 
 [Prof Mark Crispin Miller on propaganda sep 2020](#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020)
@@ -23481,7 +23479,7 @@
 missed the deadline... so can not clarify record... but pages 34-36 none of
 that applies
 
-[00:06:44](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=404) that's not true... I can not presume they;re valid when staff recommendation...
+[00:06:44](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=404) that's not true... I can not presume they're valid when staff recommendation...
 
 [00:07:00](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=420) Sullivan didn't even know about it. The candidate here knew
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1257 -r1.1258
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 16:38:05 1.1257
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/29 12:38:05 1.1258
@@ -227,7 +227,15 @@
 
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
+US B52's flying regularly along Russian border. Russian pilots losing patience
+:   [9/25/20 Gilbert Doctorow on the US Government’s Provocative Russia Policy | interview - mp3](https://dissentradio.com/radio/20_09_25_doctorow.mp3)
 
+    <https://scotthorton.org/interviews/9-25-20-gilbert-doctorow-on-the-us-governments-provocative-russia-policy/>
+    Appears to be Belarus related.
+
+---
+
+<https://www.rapidtests.org/>
 :   > Rapid, inexpensive paper strip tests can tell you whether you are
     > contagious. Research shows that if taken frequently, these tests could help
     > drive COVID-19 infections close to zero.
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diff -w -u -r1.1256 -r1.1257
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 14:43:54 1.1256
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 16:38:05 1.1257
@@ -1746,9 +1746,9 @@
 
 ###### {#zjyip_Long_Podcast_PlaylistAcomaA_updated_nightly}
 
-# quick start -- load play list to [VLC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player)
+# quick start -- load my playlist to [VLC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player)
 
-Skip to [next section](#blklc_Podcast_Playlist_updated_nightly) for detailed help.
+( Skip to [next section](#blklc_Podcast_Playlist_updated_nightly) for detailed help.)
 
 Copy this URL to your [clipboard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_(computing)):
 
@@ -1768,8 +1768,8 @@
 
 In VLC
 
-| > Ctrl-n
-| > ( Command-n in macOS )
+> | Ctrl-n
+> | ( Command-n in macOS )
 
 allows you to paste in a playlist URL in a dialog box.
 The same step using the menu is:
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diff -w -u -r1.1255 -r1.1256
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 14:40:08 1.1255
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 14:43:54 1.1256
@@ -1771,8 +1771,8 @@
 | > Ctrl-n
 | > ( Command-n in macOS )
 
-also allows you to paste in a playlist to a dialog box.
-You may also get to this through the menu:
+allows you to paste in a playlist URL in a dialog box.
+The same step using the menu is:
 
 > Media > Open Network Stream...
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1254 -r1.1255
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 14:37:22 1.1254
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 14:40:08 1.1255
@@ -1752,29 +1752,29 @@
 
 Copy this URL to your [clipboard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_(computing)):
 
-    https://zq3q.org/pco/playlist.pls
+> **https://zq3q.org/pco/playlist.pls**
 
 Open [VLC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player), and "type":
 
-    Ctrl-v
+> Ctrl-v
 
 Click on 'Play' -- now my playlist should be loaded and started in VLC.
 
 On macOS use
 
-    Command-v
+> Command-v
 
 ---
 
 In VLC
 
-    Ctrl-n
-    ( Command-n in macOS )
+| > Ctrl-n
+| > ( Command-n in macOS )
 
 also allows you to paste in a playlist to a dialog box.
 You may also get to this through the menu:
 
-    Media > Open Network Stream...
+> Media > Open Network Stream...
 
 
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1253 -r1.1254
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 14:30:56 1.1253
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 14:37:22 1.1254
@@ -1748,7 +1748,7 @@
 
 # quick start -- load play list to [VLC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player)
 
-Skip to [next section](#zjyip_Long_Podcast_PlaylistAcomaA_updated_nightly) if you need detailed help.
+Skip to [next section](#blklc_Podcast_Playlist_updated_nightly) for detailed help.
 
 Copy this URL to your [clipboard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_(computing)):
 
@@ -1777,29 +1777,10 @@
     Media > Open Network Stream...
 
 
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
-<br>
 
-# [Long Podcast Playlist, updated nightly](#zjyip_Long_Podcast_PlaylistAcomaA_updated_nightly)
+###### {#blklc_Podcast_Playlist_updated_nightly}
+
+# [Long Podcast Playlist, updated nightly](#blklc_Podcast_Playlist_updated_nightly)
 
 Since ~2007, nightly at about 8:50pm Chicago time,  from [my podcast RSS feeds](http://zq3q.org/pco/podcast_feeds.html),
 I post my [**~8 hour audio playlist**](http://zq3q.org/pub.pls);
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diff -w -u -r1.1252 -r1.1253
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 12:38:06 1.1252
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 14:30:56 1.1253
@@ -1750,7 +1750,7 @@
 
 Skip to [next section](#zjyip_Long_Podcast_PlaylistAcomaA_updated_nightly) if you need detailed help.
 
-Copy this URL to your clipboard:
+Copy this URL to your [clipboard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_(computing)):
 
     https://zq3q.org/pco/playlist.pls
 
@@ -1762,15 +1762,42 @@
 
 On macOS use
 
-    Cmd v
+    Command-v
 
 ---
 
 In VLC
 
     Ctrl-n
+    ( Command-n in macOS )
 
-also allows you to paste in a playlist.
+also allows you to paste in a playlist to a dialog box.
+You may also get to this through the menu:
+
+    Media > Open Network Stream...
+
+
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
 
 # [Long Podcast Playlist, updated nightly](#zjyip_Long_Podcast_PlaylistAcomaA_updated_nightly)
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1251 -r1.1252
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/27 01:44:00 1.1251
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/28 12:38:06 1.1252
@@ -228,8 +228,15 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 
+:   > Rapid, inexpensive paper strip tests can tell you whether you are
+    > contagious. Research shows that if taken frequently, these tests could help
+    > drive COVID-19 infections close to zero.
+
+---
+
  tweet: 70yr old Prof Mark Crispin Miller on dangerous/effective propaganda in USA: https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
 
+<https://www.rapidtests.org/>
 ###### {#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
 
 [Prof Mark Crispin Miller on propaganda sep 2020](#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020)
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diff -w -u -r1.1250 -r1.1251
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/27 01:39:46 1.1250
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/27 01:44:00 1.1251
@@ -1741,7 +1741,7 @@
 
 # quick start -- load play list to [VLC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player)
 
-Skip to [next section](zjyip_Long_Podcast_PlaylistAcomaA_updated_nightly) if you need detailed help.
+Skip to [next section](#zjyip_Long_Podcast_PlaylistAcomaA_updated_nightly) if you need detailed help.
 
 Copy this URL to your clipboard:
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1249 -r1.1250
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/27 01:37:39 1.1249
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/27 01:39:46 1.1250
@@ -1699,7 +1699,7 @@
 
     ---
 
-:end: }}}
+:end: #emxfi_tweet_ideas }}} 
 
 ###### {#mefrx_DriscollAsqtAs_Produce}
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1248 -r1.1249
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/27 00:38:05 1.1248
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/27 01:37:39 1.1249
@@ -1739,15 +1739,15 @@
 
 ###### {#zjyip_Long_Podcast_PlaylistAcomaA_updated_nightly}
 
-# quick start -- load play list to VLC
+# quick start -- load play list to [VLC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player)
 
-Skip to next section if you need detailed help.
+Skip to [next section](zjyip_Long_Podcast_PlaylistAcomaA_updated_nightly) if you need detailed help.
 
 Copy this URL to your clipboard:
 
     https://zq3q.org/pco/playlist.pls
 
-Open VLC, and "type":
+Open [VLC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player), and "type":
 
     Ctrl-v
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1247 -r1.1248
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 16:38:06 1.1247
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/27 00:38:05 1.1248
@@ -17726,6 +17726,17 @@
 
 <https://soundcloud.com/user-182465442> to <http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:245586665/sounds.rss>
 
+## via dns search
+
+   https://securitytrails.com/list/apex_domain                                                
+        enter in a search string
+        best!:                                                                                 
+                                                                                                
+            apex_domain = 'podbean.com':                                                       
+                https://securitytrails.com/list/apex_domain/podbean.com                        
+                                                                                               
+                https://securitytrails.com/list/apex_domain/libsyn.com                        
+
 ## more soundcloud
 
 <https://caiustheory.com/soundcloud-rss-feeds/>
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diff -w -u -r1.1246 -r1.1247
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 14:38:04 1.1246
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 16:38:06 1.1247
@@ -67,8 +67,12 @@
 
 ### <http://www.wisconsinlaborhistory.org/> ###
 
+### <https://wibailoutpeople.org/> ###
+
 ### <http://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/feed/> ###
 
+### <https://www.publicbankinginstitute.org/feed/> ###
+
 ### <http://wisdomwisconsin.org/> ###
 
 ###### {#rrrba_My_Shortrlist_of_AuthorsAslashAExperts_}
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diff -w -u -r1.1245 -r1.1246
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 12:53:25 1.1245
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 14:38:04 1.1246
@@ -41,6 +41,8 @@
 
 ### <https://whowhatwhy.org> ###
 
+### <https://popularresistance.org/> ###
+
 ### <http://accuracy.org/> ###
 
 ### <https://therealnews.com/> ###
@@ -57,13 +59,15 @@
 
 ### <http://vdlf.org/> ###
 
+### <https://fair.org/> ###
+
 ### <https://www.globalresearch.ca/>
 
 ### <https://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/> ###
 
 ### <http://www.wisconsinlaborhistory.org/> ###
 
-### <https://popularresistance.org/> ###
+### <http://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/feed/> ###
 
 ### <http://wisdomwisconsin.org/> ###
 
@@ -220,7 +224,7 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 
- tweet: 70yr old Prof Mark Crispin Miller on propaganda: https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
+ tweet: 70yr old Prof Mark Crispin Miller on dangerous/effective propaganda in USA: https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
 
 ###### {#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1244 -r1.1245
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 12:48:26 1.1244
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 12:53:25 1.1245
@@ -220,15 +220,17 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 
+ tweet: 70yr old Prof Mark Crispin Miller on propaganda: https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
+
 ###### {#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
 
-[Mark Crispin Miller propaganda sep 2020](#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020)
+[Prof Mark Crispin Miller on propaganda sep 2020](#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020)
 :   Global Research interview starts at 00:29:36 <http://ckuw.ca/128/20200925.13.00-14.00.mp3>
 
     Prog Commentary hour interview by Gary Null: <https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/xq67t7/PCH_092220.mp3>
 
     I may not agree w/70yr old [Mark C Miller](#ejnvv_Mark_Crispin_Miller_Intro)'s "facts", but I do agree with his views on
-    propaganda -- he teaches a class in propaganda.
+    propaganda -- he teaches a class in propaganda.  He may be censored/fired soon -- let's hope not.
 
 ---
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1243 -r1.1244
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 12:42:07 1.1243
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 12:48:26 1.1244
@@ -220,14 +220,14 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 
-###### {#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020}
+###### {#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020
 
 [Mark Crispin Miller propaganda sep 2020](#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020)
 :   Global Research interview starts at 00:29:36 <http://ckuw.ca/128/20200925.13.00-14.00.mp3>
 
     Prog Commentary hour interview by Gary Null: <https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/xq67t7/PCH_092220.mp3>
 
-    You and I may not agree w/70yr old Mark C Miller's "facts", but I do agree with his views on
+    I may not agree w/70yr old [Mark C Miller](#ejnvv_Mark_Crispin_Miller_Intro)'s "facts", but I do agree with his views on
     propaganda -- he teaches a class in propaganda.
 
 ---
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diff -w -u -r1.1242 -r1.1243
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:51:42 1.1242
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/26 12:42:07 1.1243
@@ -220,6 +220,18 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 
+###### {#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020}
+
+[Mark Crispin Miller propaganda sep 2020](#plpch_Mark_Crispin_Miller_propaganda_sep2020)
+:   Global Research interview starts at 00:29:36 <http://ckuw.ca/128/20200925.13.00-14.00.mp3>
+
+    Prog Commentary hour interview by Gary Null: <https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/xq67t7/PCH_092220.mp3>
+
+    You and I may not agree w/70yr old Mark C Miller's "facts", but I do agree with his views on
+    propaganda -- he teaches a class in propaganda.
+
+---
+
  tweet: Far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses: https://zq3q.org/pco/#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs
 
 ###### {#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs
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diff -w -u -r1.1241 -r1.1242
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:47:23 1.1241
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:51:42 1.1242
@@ -229,8 +229,9 @@
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
----
+    No known impact on human skin or eyes, but 220 nano-meter "far UV C" destroys viruses in in mid air.
 
+---
 
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1240 -r1.1241
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:15:18 1.1240
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:47:23 1.1241
@@ -229,8 +229,6 @@
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
-
-
 ---
 
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1239 -r1.1240
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diff -w -u -r1.1238 -r1.1239
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:09:31 1.1238
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:11:10 1.1239
@@ -229,7 +229,7 @@
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
-    bye
+
 
 ---
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1237 -r1.1238
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:07:18 1.1237
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:09:31 1.1238
@@ -229,12 +229,13 @@
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
-<br>
+    bye
 
 ---
 
 
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org
+
 ###### {#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org}
 
 <https://itsgoingdown.org/in-the-eye-of-the-storm-a-report-from-kenosha/>
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diff -w -u -r1.1236 -r1.1237
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:05:21 1.1236
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:07:18 1.1237
@@ -229,7 +229,9 @@
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
-------
+<br>
+
+---
 
 
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org
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diff -w -u -r1.1235 -r1.1236
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:02:30 1.1235
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:05:21 1.1236
@@ -229,8 +229,7 @@
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
-``````
----
+------
 
 
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org
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diff -w -u -r1.1234 -r1.1235
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:58:10 1.1234
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 23:02:30 1.1235
@@ -229,6 +229,7 @@
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
+``````
 ---
 
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1233 -r1.1234
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:56:43 1.1233
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:58:10 1.1234
@@ -220,6 +220,8 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 
+ tweet: Far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses: https://zq3q.org/pco/#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs
+
 ###### {#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs
 
 [Far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses](#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs)
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diff -w -u -r1.1232 -r1.1233
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:34:34 1.1232
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:56:43 1.1233
@@ -220,16 +220,16 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 
-###### {#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs}
+###### {#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs
 
- lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs
-far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
-:   far uv-c" researcher interview: <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV666.mp3?dest-id=25528>  [](#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs)
+[Far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses](#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs)
+:   In depth, far uv-c" researcher interview: <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV666.mp3?dest-id=25528>  
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
 ---
 
+
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org
 ###### {#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org}
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1231 -r1.1232
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:31:00 1.1231
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:34:34 1.1232
@@ -223,10 +223,8 @@
 ###### {#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs}
 
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs
-new!: far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
-:   abc [](#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs) 
-
-    "far uv-c" researcher interview: <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV666.mp3?dest-id=25528>
+far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
+:   far uv-c" researcher interview: <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV666.mp3?dest-id=25528>  [](#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs)
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1230 -r1.1231
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:25:40 1.1230
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:31:00 1.1231
@@ -220,13 +220,13 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 
-###### {#qitnu_jkljljk}
+###### {#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs}
 
-[](#qitnu_jkljljk)
-
- lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hxdlb_far_uv
+ lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs
 new!: far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
-:   "far uv-c" researcher interview: <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV666.mp3?dest-id=25528>
+:   abc [](#gwksh_far_uv-c_bulbs) 
+
+    "far uv-c" researcher interview: <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV666.mp3?dest-id=25528>
 
     <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1229 -r1.1230
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:23:37 1.1229
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:25:40 1.1230
@@ -222,7 +222,7 @@
 
 ###### {#qitnu_jkljljk}
 
-[sjlkj lskjsl j](#qitnu_jkljljk)
+[](#qitnu_jkljljk)
 
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hxdlb_far_uv
 new!: far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
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diff -w -u -r1.1228 -r1.1229
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:21:05 1.1228
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:23:37 1.1229
@@ -222,7 +222,7 @@
 
 ###### {#qitnu_jkljljk}
 
-[](#qitnu_jkljljk)
+[sjlkj lskjsl j](#qitnu_jkljljk)
 
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hxdlb_far_uv
 new!: far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
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diff -w -u -r1.1227 -r1.1228
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:16:55 1.1227
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:21:05 1.1228
@@ -219,13 +219,10 @@
 
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
-###### {#hxdlb_far_uv-c}
-
-[zzz](#hxdlb_far_uv-c)
 
 ###### {#qitnu_jkljljk}
 
-# [jkljljk](#qitnu_jkljljk)
+[](#qitnu_jkljljk)
 
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hxdlb_far_uv
 new!: far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
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diff -w -u -r1.1226 -r1.1227
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:14:49 1.1226
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:16:55 1.1227
@@ -220,8 +220,13 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 ###### {#hxdlb_far_uv-c}
+
 [zzz](#hxdlb_far_uv-c)
 
+###### {#qitnu_jkljljk}
+
+# [jkljljk](#qitnu_jkljljk)
+
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hxdlb_far_uv
 new!: far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
 :   "far uv-c" researcher interview: <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV666.mp3?dest-id=25528>
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diff -w -u -r1.1225 -r1.1226
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:10:21 1.1225
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:14:49 1.1226
@@ -220,6 +220,7 @@
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
 ###### {#hxdlb_far_uv-c}
+[zzz](#hxdlb_far_uv-c)
 
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hxdlb_far_uv
 new!: far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
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diff -w -u -r1.1224 -r1.1225
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 14:38:03 1.1224
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 22:10:21 1.1225
@@ -219,6 +219,16 @@
 
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
+###### {#hxdlb_far_uv-c}
+
+ lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hxdlb_far_uv
+new!: far uv-c light bulbs "safely" disable viruses
+:   "far uv-c" researcher interview: <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV666.mp3?dest-id=25528>
+
+    <https://faruv.com/faq/#toggle-id-1>
+
+---
+
  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org
 ###### {#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org}
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1223 -r1.1224
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 22:38:03 1.1223
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/25 14:38:03 1.1224
@@ -22623,11 +22623,11 @@
 #_hide{
 -:=riseupmailing:=riseuplist:=riseupemaillist:riseup.net::nOonQe8y: {
 
-    https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/911tap-general
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/create_list_request
 
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/admin
 
+    https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/911tap-general
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/911tap-inreach             # msgs
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/editfile/911tap-inreach        # chg description
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/911tap-inreach
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diff -w -u -r1.1222 -r1.1223
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 18:38:04 1.1222
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 22:38:03 1.1223
@@ -219,6 +219,30 @@
 
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
+ lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org
+###### {#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org}
+
+<https://itsgoingdown.org/in-the-eye-of-the-storm-a-report-from-kenosha/>
+    : [Hard Crackers -  3 nights of the Kenosha uprising | itsgoingdown.org](#lsvaq_O072O_Hard_Crackers_-_3_nights_of_the_Kenosha_uprising_O174O_itsgoingdown.org)
+
+    Important/good/long article about courthouse centered "large multiracial
+    crowd" protest.. and subsequent night's shooting by Kyle R..Goes into detail
+    about the fires, the crowd actions, mood... until 3am.
+    Six arrests on 1st night.
+
+    > Having seen the carnage in Kenosha up close, we are convinced
+    > this is the wrong path. But what is the alternative? How can we build active
+    > self-defense against armed fascists and the state, without falling into the
+    > trap of making our primary political activity an engagement with these forces
+    > of repression on their preferred terrain? The answer cannot be resolved on
+    > paper, but we can say for sure it will be guided not by what we want to
+    > destroy, but what we want to build: communities of solidarity, inclusivity, and
+    > radical equality, based on human needs and not the dictates of profit.
+
+    The last 3 paragraphs of the article are interesting, but inconclusive.
+
+---
+
 Peace activist David Swanson interviews Main Sen Candidate Lisa Savage
 :   [ Audio Interview | Covers RCV | rank choice voting](http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/897523171-davidcnswanson-talk-nation-radio-lisa-savage-on-what-maine-and-the-united-states-could-do-better.mp3)
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1221 -r1.1222
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 14:38:04 1.1221
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 18:38:04 1.1222
@@ -219,6 +219,11 @@
 
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
+Peace activist David Swanson interviews Main Sen Candidate Lisa Savage
+:   [ Audio Interview | Covers RCV | rank choice voting](http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/897523171-davidcnswanson-talk-nation-radio-lisa-savage-on-what-maine-and-the-united-states-could-do-better.mp3)
+
+---
+
 podcast -- Intro to **Mutual Aid** | NYC
 : <https://ia601402.us.archive.org/3/items/igdwoodbine-in-t/IGDWoodbineInT.mp3>
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1220 -r1.1221
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 12:38:05 1.1220
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 14:38:04 1.1221
@@ -22592,13 +22592,14 @@
 <https://lwn.net/Articles/436035/>
 
 #_hide{
--:riseup.net::nOonQe8y: {
+-:=riseupmailing:=riseuplist:=riseupemaillist:riseup.net::nOonQe8y: {
 
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/911tap-general
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/create_list_request
 
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/admin
 
+    https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/911tap-inreach             # msgs
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/editfile/911tap-inreach        # chg description
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/911tap-inreach
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/admin/911tap-inreach
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diff -w -u -r1.1219 -r1.1220
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 00:38:05 1.1219
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 12:38:05 1.1220
@@ -22594,6 +22594,7 @@
 #_hide{
 -:riseup.net::nOonQe8y: {
 
+    https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/911tap-general
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/create_list_request
 
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/admin
@@ -23579,6 +23580,14 @@
 
 #_hide}
 
+###### {#rgfms_publishing_your_own_book}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#rgfms_publishing_your_own_book
+
+# [publishing your own book](#rgfms_publishing_your_own_book)
+
+<http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/897827575-techdirt-little-brother-vs-big-audiobook-with-cory-doctorow.mp3>
+
+
+
 :pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
 <br>
 <br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1218 -r1.1219
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/22 14:38:03 1.1218
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/23 00:38:05 1.1219
@@ -23570,6 +23570,15 @@
 <https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/11/all-the-chants-i-heard-at-saturdays-anti-trump-protest-in-nyc-ranked.html>
 
 #_hide}
+
+#_hide{
+
+# Anthrax Grand Jury Investigation
+
+<https://youtu.be/SLbQLmMpkc4>   911lc
+
+#_hide}
+
 :pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
 <br>
 <br>
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1217 -r1.1218
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/21 12:38:06 1.1217
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/22 14:38:03 1.1218
@@ -22597,6 +22597,8 @@
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/create_list_request
 
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/admin
+
+    https://lists.riseup.net/www/editfile/911tap-inreach        # chg description
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/911tap-inreach
     https://lists.riseup.net/www/admin/911tap-inreach
 
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1216 -r1.1217
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/19 22:38:03 1.1216
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/21 12:38:06 1.1217
@@ -219,6 +219,11 @@
 
                  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:
 
+podcast -- Intro to **Mutual Aid** | NYC
+: <https://ia601402.us.archive.org/3/items/igdwoodbine-in-t/IGDWoodbineInT.mp3>
+
+---
+
 Nader on spoiler effect
 :   skip to 50:30 <https://archives.kpfa.org/data/20200817-Mon1100.mp3>
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1215 -r1.1216
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/16 20:38:05 1.1215
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/19 22:38:03 1.1216
@@ -22548,7 +22548,6 @@
 
 <https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/riseup-net>
 
-
 ## others comment on riseup.net
 
 <https://blog.torproject.org/tor-heart-riseupnet>
@@ -22587,6 +22586,24 @@
 
 <https://lwn.net/Articles/436035/>
 
+#_hide{
+-:riseup.net::nOonQe8y: {
+
+    https://lists.riseup.net/www/create_list_request
+
+    https://lists.riseup.net/www/admin
+    https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/911tap-inreach
+    https://lists.riseup.net/www/admin/911tap-inreach
+
+    https://support.riseup.net/en/topics/new        # open a ticket
+
+    https://support.riseup.net/en/ticket/kdwqXfrB2hkxwLWU           # open ticket on 911tap-inreach
+
+    :end -:!riseup.net::nOonQe8y:
+}
+
+#_hide}
+
 ###### {#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War
 
 # [World War Two Was Not a Just War | what-about-the-good-war question](#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War)
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diff -w -u -r1.1214 -r1.1215
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diff -w -u -r1.1213 -r1.1214
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/08 14:38:03 1.1213
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/09 12:38:05 1.1214
@@ -13242,7 +13242,15 @@
 * no end to end encryption; do they sell our data?
 * license/eula: TODO
 
-## <https://discordapp.com/>
+###### {#pkscv_discord_eval}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#pkscv_discord_eval
+
+## [discord evaluation](#pkscv_discord_eval)
+
+<https://discordapp.com/>
+
+Discord is a gamer inspired alternative to slack. Slack was based on 1990s IRC chat.
+Discord provides text and voice channels, and video calls. The free version of discord
+seems to provide more features than slack. The discord license is troubling.
 
 ### Good tool, but concerned about the license.
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1212 -r1.1213
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/07 12:38:06 1.1212
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/08 14:38:03 1.1213
@@ -21711,6 +21711,9 @@
 
 # [spoiler effect collection](#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection)
 
+by WI Green James O'Neill <https://www.freexenon.com/2020/07/09/lesser-of-two-evils-voting-is-antithetical-to-democracy/>
+:   In Aug 2020, I'm still reading this. It's good (so far), but it needs an editor/editing.
+
 [Ted Rall "Progressive Case for Voting Third Party..." | Aug 2020 ](https://www.unz.com/trall/never-trump-never-biden-the-progressive-case-for-voting-third-party-or-boycotting-the-election/)
 
 Howie responds to Bill McKibben:
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diff -w -u -r1.1211 -r1.1212
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/07 12:04:33 1.1211
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/07 12:38:06 1.1212
@@ -4777,7 +4777,7 @@
 
 ###### {#jgize_addrs_in_To_header_groupemailetiquette}   :=mailinglistbestpractices:=listservebestpractices:
 
-# [Group Emailing Best Practices](#cugam_Group_Emailing_Best_Practices)   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#jgize_addrs_in_To_header_groupemailetiquette
+# [Group Emailing Best Practices](https://zq3q.org/pco/#cugam_Group_Emailing_Best_Practices)   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#jgize_addrs_in_To_header_groupemailetiquette
 
 You may anger your group members if you have their addresses in the
 To: or Cc: headers -- email address sharing can lead expose recipients to spam.
@@ -22516,7 +22516,7 @@
 
 [Deep Green Resistance | Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/user/DeepGreenResistance/)
 
-###### {#tptrk_riseup.net_overview}
+###### {#tptrk_riseup.net_overview}      :=riseup.net:riseup.net overview
 
 # [riseup.net overview](#tptrk_riseup.net_overview)   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#tptrk_riseup.net_overview
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1210 -r1.1211
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/02 00:38:05 1.1210
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/07 12:04:33 1.1211
@@ -4775,12 +4775,12 @@
 
 ###### {#cugam_Group_Emailing_Best_Practices}
 
-###### {#jgize_addrs_in_To_header_groupemailetiquette}
+###### {#jgize_addrs_in_To_header_groupemailetiquette}   :=mailinglistbestpractices:=listservebestpractices:
 
-# [Group Emailing Best Practices](#cugam_Group_Emailing_Best_Practices)   https://zq3q.org/pco/#jgize_addrs_in_To_header_groupemailetiquette
+# [Group Emailing Best Practices](#cugam_Group_Emailing_Best_Practices)   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#jgize_addrs_in_To_header_groupemailetiquette
 
-You may anger your group members if you have all their addresses in the
-To: or Cc: headers -- this email address sharing can lead to your recipients being spammed.
+You may anger your group members if you have their addresses in the
+To: or Cc: headers -- email address sharing can lead expose recipients to spam.
 
 Many or most email clients require that you put something in the
 'To:' header.
@@ -4803,6 +4803,8 @@
 
 Your group list of personal email addresses belongs in the Bcc header.
 
+Alternatively, use a listserve/email list/google group, or a forum tool.
+
 ## Exposing email addresses in To: and Cc: can lead to **spam**
 
 All it takes is for one person on the list to have their mail account or computer
@@ -18763,7 +18765,7 @@
 
  :biobot:TqjVvx0eRzzm:add new bio above:
 
-:=netiquette:=netiquette:quoting practice:toppost:top post:post:=posting:=email_etiquette:=etiquettenet: { 
+:=netiquette:=netiquette:quoting practice:toppost:top post:post:=posting:=emailetiquette:=etiquettenet: { 
 
 ###### {#anzpq_AhashA_netiquette}    lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#anzpq_AhashA_netiquette
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1209 -r1.1210
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/01 15:17:19 1.1209
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/02 00:38:05 1.1210
@@ -23499,6 +23499,40 @@
 
 ![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190159_1.jpg){ width=100% }
 
+
+#_hide{
+
+* "Ain't no power like the power of the people, cause the power of the people don't stop."
+
+* “If we don’t get it” / “Shut it down!” 
+
+*  “Whose streets?” / “Our streets!” 
+
+* “The people! United! Will never be defeated!”
+
+* "All lives don't matter until..." / “Black lives matter!”
+
+* “Black lives matter!”
+
+* “Blue lives matter!”
+
+* “All lives matter!”
+
+* "What do we want? JUSTICE! When? NOW!!"
+
+* “No justice!” / “No peace!” 
+
+*  “Show me what democracy looks like!” / “This is what democracy looks like!”
+
+* “Say his name: George Floyd.”
+
+* "No justice, no peace! No racist police!” 
+
+## refs
+
+<https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/11/all-the-chants-i-heard-at-saturdays-anti-trump-protest-in-nyc-ranked.html>
+
+#_hide}
 :pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
 <br>
 <br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1208 -r1.1209
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/01 14:38:03 1.1208
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/01 15:17:19 1.1209
@@ -22772,13 +22772,24 @@
 
 ## basics about hearing
 
-### WEC commissioners
+### WEC commissioners | WEC basics
 
 <https://elections.wi.gov/about/members>
 
+
 > Bostelmann, Glancey, Jacobs, Knudson, Spindell, Thomsen
 
-## hearing announcement email
+<https://elections.wi.gov/about/staff>
+
+> Meagan Wolfe, Nathan Judnic, Robert A. Williams
+
+help desk: <https://elections.wi.gov/index.php/contact>
+
+## hearing announcements
+
+<https://elections.wi.gov/node/7024>
+
+###  hearing announcement email
 
 | From: Judnic, Nathan - ELECTIONS <[1]Nathan.Judnic@wisconsin.gov>
 | Date: Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:09 PM
@@ -22848,6 +22859,8 @@
 
 ### [video timestamps | H20 Aug 20 nom paper challenge hearing](#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times)
 
+:p0 
+
 #### 1st/main  video
 
 [00:01:05](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=65) Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
@@ -22885,19 +22898,19 @@
 
 [00:24:20](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1460) start of questions for Mérida or Mandell
 
-[00:24:25](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1465) Question from Spindell to staff person Megan
+[00:24:25](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1465) Question from Spindell to staff person Megan Wolfe
 
-[00:25:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1500) Megan: I believe we included all the relevant emails between the Green Party and us as part of the staff memo
+[00:25:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1500) Wolfe: I believe we included all the relevant emails between the Green Party and us as part of the staff memo
 
 [00:25:16](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1516) Judnic on emails
 
 [00:25:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1518) Mr Williams (election specialist Robert Williams?) not aware of conversation w/Mérida
 
-[00:27:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1620) Sidell speculates Walker moved Jul 30 or 31
+[00:27:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1620) Spindell speculates Walker moved Jul 30 or 31
 
 [00:27:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1650) Jacobs: move date -- that information is not before this commission
 
-[00:28:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1710) Sidell: nom papers... very carefully done...checked out ( by Green Party )
+[00:28:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1710) Spindell: nom papers... very carefully done...checked out ( by Green Party )
 
 [00:29:20](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1760) facts should have been ... by filing a verified response
 
@@ -22907,7 +22920,7 @@
 
 [00:31:24](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1884) Mereida not allowed to answer Spindell re cur addr
 
-[00:32:04](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1924) Knutson asks Judnic about time period for affidavits on nom paper (header) corrections
+[00:32:04](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1924) Knudson asks Judnic about time period for affidavits on nom paper (header) corrections
 
 [00:32:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1953) Judnic re correcting headers -- an affidavit may be done by circulator or signer
 
@@ -22929,7 +22942,7 @@
 
 [00:36:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2199) most candidates (do)... not going to give legal advice
 
-[00:37:24](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2244) Knutson: 2 of 3 days were weekend days
+[00:37:24](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2244) Knudson: 2 of 3 days were weekend days
 
 [00:37:50](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2270) IMPORTANT: failure to file is all but fatal (38:40)
 
@@ -22971,7 +22984,7 @@
 
 [00:47:15](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2835) IMPORTANT - deadline for declaration of candidacy was Tue Aug 4 430pm
 
-[00:47:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2853) IMPORTANT - Knutson: no evidence the challenged 1800+ sigs have an incorrect header addr for Walker
+[00:47:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2853) IMPORTANT - Knudson: no evidence the challenged 1800+ sigs have an incorrect header addr for Walker
 
 [00:48:47](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2927) nom papers on same date with conflicting addresses for Walker
 
@@ -22987,9 +23000,9 @@
 
 [00:50:28](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3028) Jacobs: we have no idea what ... her addr..
 
-[00:50:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3044) Knutson: clearly...issue with her moving (per staff)
+[00:50:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3044) Knudson: clearly...issue with her moving (per staff)
 
-[00:51:13](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3073) Knutson: no evidence that 1864 sigs... that there was any problem ...
+[00:51:13](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3073) Knudson: no evidence that 1864 sigs... that there was any problem ...
 
 [00:51:56](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3116) Jacobs: we don't know if that was her address ... inexplicably
 
@@ -22999,9 +23012,9 @@
 
 [00:52:55](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3175) Jacobs: swore her addr was... under oath
 
-[00:53:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3214) Sidell: not a court hearing...this is an administrative hearing
+[00:53:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3214) Spindell: not a court hearing...this is an administrative hearing
 
-[00:53:56](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3236) Knutson: I figured the party felt they did not need to respond (in writing) since everything was so obvious
+[00:53:56](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3236) Knudson: I figured the party felt they did not need to respond (in writing) since everything was so obvious
 
 [00:53:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3198) Jacobs: they **overlap**... a big mish maash
 
@@ -23023,13 +23036,13 @@
 
 [00:57:36](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3456) Jacobs: pls sir keep that at the (door?)
 
-[00:57:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3472) Jacobs: I am not going to solicity testimony of hearsay
+[00:57:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3472) Jacobs: I am not going to solicit testimony of hearsay
 
 [00:58:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3480) Jacobs: elected not to follow the very clear rules of this commission... we have a manual that says what they need to do
 
-[00:59:17](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3557) Judnic: ...turned out differntly jad we had a (written/verified) response...would have weighed both sides
+[00:59:17](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3557) Judnic: ...turned out differently had we had a (written/verified) response...would have weighed both sides
 
-[00:59:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3585) Judnic: (Mandell) showed ther were issues with the address
+[00:59:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3585) Judnic: (Mandell) showed there were issues with the address
 
 [00:59:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3592) ...clear and convincing evidence
 
@@ -23043,7 +23056,7 @@
 
 [01:01:29](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3689) inference w/o affidavit
 
-[01:01:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3699) our decision cost Sulivan a spot on the ballot ( County Exec/earlier in 2020? )
+[01:01:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3699) our decision cost Sullivan a spot on the ballot ( County Exec/earlier in 2020? )
 
 [01:01:50](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3710) missing a key piece
 
@@ -23075,7 +23088,7 @@
 
 [01:12:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4320) tell press date of move and confirm 1st date
  
-[01:12:47](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4367) Glancy: incredibility incredibility interesting
+[01:12:47](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4367) Glancey: incredibility incredibility interesting
 
 [01:14:16](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4456) Thomsen: this is for the president of the United States...not our job to follow up (to the campaign)...you should get it right
 
@@ -23085,11 +23098,11 @@
 
 [01:15:19](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4519) I move the staff's recommendations
 
-[01:16:07](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4567) IMPORTANT - Knutson: I fear we'll be overturned on this one
+[01:16:07](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4567) IMPORTANT - Knudson: I fear we'll be overturned on this one
 
-[01:16:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4605) Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
+[01:16:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4605) Knudson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
 
-[01:16:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4605) Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
+[01:16:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4605) Knudson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
 
 [01:17:08](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4628) shocked...if you miss a deadline..though...oral argument
 
@@ -23146,11 +23159,11 @@
 
 [01:37:10](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5830) only person that can swear to residence...
 
-[01:38:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5920) Knutson: (could we) have A. Walker zoom in and testify date of move
+[01:38:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5920) Knudson: (could we) have A. Walker zoom in and testify date of move
 
 [01:38:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5929) Jacobs: no...
 
-[01:39:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5978) was info from complainant sufficient to... was their clear and convincing evidence to shift the burden (towrds doubting the TV address)...staff provided info
+[01:39:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5978) was info from complainant sufficient to... was their clear and convincing evidence to shift the burden (towards doubting the TV address)...staff provided info
 
 [01:40:27](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6027) ...then the burden at that point is *not* shifted ( favorable to H20 )
 
@@ -23191,7 +23204,7 @@
 
 [01:45:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6300) Merida
 
-[01:45:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6352) multiple moves acceptable as long paper header adjusted in sync,... finally file the declartion of candidacy at end
+[01:45:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6352) multiple moves acceptable as long paper header adjusted in sync,... finally file the declaration of candidacy at end
 
 [01:46:41](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6401) does not invalidate sigs for the [clean pile of papers w/TV Road]...address
 
@@ -23202,9 +23215,9 @@
 [01:47:55](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6475) Don't have to file the declaration of candidacy until campaign spends money. Would not have to file
 during nom paper circulation until after papers submitted (and challenge deadline expired?).
 
-[01:48:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6514) w/o the challenge, staff would have acccepted...
+[01:48:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6514) w/o the challenge, staff would have accepted...
 
-[01:48:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6514) IMP: The candidate did file disclosure and swore to live "somewhere else" then shown on initial nom papers. ... challenger clains
+[01:48:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6514) IMP: The candidate did file disclosure and swore to live "somewhere else" then shown on initial nom papers. ... challenger claims
 burden was shifted since the address at time of sworn candidate disclosure differs from initial nom papers header address ...implies 
 initial no papers are ...
 
@@ -23243,22 +23256,22 @@
 [01:53:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6832) Thomsen: voted w/staff recommendation... We're being consistent w/our Feb 2020 ruling which kept Sullivan  off the ballot... don't
 see this any differently...their burden... not ours...let's vote...some court will decide
 
-[01:54:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6879) Gancy: Presumption of validity shifted by challenger...declaration of candidacyis key...Yes challenger shows initialaddress conflicts...
+[01:54:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6879) Glancey: Presumption of validity shifted by challenger...declaration of candidacyis key...Yes challenger shows initial address conflicts...
 Improper/beyond our scope for us to guess/extrapolate on mismatch...Missed their chance to file written statement on TV addr.
 
 [01:56:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6993) burden of suspicion that nom papers may be invalid
 
-[01:56:58](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7018) Knutson motion on table asking for allowing new evidence for date of move
+[01:56:58](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7018) Knudson motion on table asking for allowing new evidence for date of move
 
 [01:57:32](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7052) vote on above motion fails 3:3
 
-[01:58:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7132)??? New Knutson motion: 1789 Royal st sigs certified ok; 1834 TV addr sigs deadlocked due to lack of evidence confirming TV road addr
+[01:58:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7132)??? New Knudson motion: 1789 Royal st sigs certified ok; 1834 TV addr sigs deadlocked due to lack of evidence confirming TV road addr
 
 [01:59:54](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7194) Are we going to put them on the ballot?
 
 [02:00:09](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7209) Under Dean's motion, by rule of law they would not be on ballot, but would have right to immediately appeal
 
-[02:00:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7230) Right to appeal wihout thismotion. So obvious we all know what is correct, what is right on ths.
+[02:00:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7230) Right to appeal without this motion. So obvious we all know what is correct, what is right on this.
 
 [02:01:25](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7285) For the 1834 is staff recommendation or Dean correct?
 
@@ -23275,7 +23288,7 @@
 
 [02:03:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7413) trying to narrow issue, to leave record for future litigation
 
-[02:05:04](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7504) Knutson: in my motion I indicate we deadlocked on the 1835 due to lack of evidence... for example date of move unknown
+[02:05:04](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7504) Knudson: in my motion I indicate we deadlocked on the 1835 due to lack of evidence... for example date of move unknown
 
 [02:04:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7440) leave candidate in stronger position to appeal...imp we certify/validate the Royal St 1789 sigs 
 
@@ -23306,9 +23319,12 @@
 
 [02:12:50](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7970) motion passes 6:0
 
-:p0 
 
-### Final vote| final video | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
+###### {#lgtap_2nd-aug20-wec-vid-times}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lgtap_2nd-aug20-wec-vid-times
+
+### [Final vote| ~10 min last video | timestamps](#lgtap_2nd-aug20-wec-vid-times)
+
+<https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
 
 [00:00:09](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=9) gotta give them something to appeal
 
@@ -23334,7 +23350,7 @@
 
 [00:08:00](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=480) motion fails 3:3
 
-[00:08:06](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=486) Knutson makes new motion that WEC finds H20 have filed sufficient no
+[00:08:06](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=486) Knudson makes new motion that WEC finds H20 have filed sufficient no
 sigs and should be certified/approved for ballot access as indep candidates
 
 [00:08:47](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=527) Mandell objects
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1207 -r1.1208
--- site.body.markdown  2020/09/01 00:38:05 1.1207
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/01 14:38:03 1.1208
@@ -22776,7 +22776,9 @@
 
 <https://elections.wi.gov/about/members>
 
-## hearing announcment email
+> Bostelmann, Glancey, Jacobs, Knudson, Spindell, Thomsen
+
+## hearing announcement email
 
 | From: Judnic, Nathan - ELECTIONS <[1]Nathan.Judnic@wisconsin.gov>
 | Date: Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:09 PM
@@ -22828,7 +22830,7 @@
 > by local filing officers related to nomination papers and other election
 > petitions.
 
-[affadavit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidavit)
+[affidavit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidavit)
 
 > written statement of fact voluntarily made by an affiant or deponent under
 > an oath or affirmation which is administered by a person who is authorized
@@ -22846,6 +22848,8 @@
 
 ### [video timestamps | H20 Aug 20 nom paper challenge hearing](#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times)
 
+#### 1st/main  video
+
 [00:01:05](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=65) Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
     12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)
 
@@ -23035,7 +23039,7 @@
 
 [01:00:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3639) burden shifting...raised enough
 
-[01:00:09](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3609) Thompson: 2016 recount
+[01:00:09](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3609) Thomsen: 2016 recount
 
 [01:01:29](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3689) inference w/o affidavit
 
@@ -23065,17 +23069,17 @@
 
 [01:06:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4000) Spindell: ...tell the press when she moved
 
-[01:07:54](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4074) (/shouting!/ Jacobs could have said sooner that Thompson dropped out of zoom)
+[01:07:54](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4074) (/shouting!/ Jacobs could have said sooner that Thomsen dropped out of zoom)
 
-[01:10:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4233) (Thompson back on zoom)
+[01:10:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4233) (Thomsen back on zoom)
 
 [01:12:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4320) tell press date of move and confirm 1st date
  
 [01:12:47](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4367) Glancy: incredibility incredibility interesting
 
-[01:14:16](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4456) Thompson: this is for the president of the United States...not our job to follow up (to the campaign)...you should get it right
+[01:14:16](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4456) Thomsen: this is for the president of the United States...not our job to follow up (to the campaign)...you should get it right
 
-[01:14:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4478) Thompson: follow staff recommendation
+[01:14:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4478) Thomsen: follow staff recommendation
 
 [01:15:03](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4503) we kept someone from running for county exec, we have to be consistent
 
@@ -23138,7 +23142,7 @@
 
 [01:33:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5624) we just won't look at them ( supp. sigs ) ...unless...ruling in 2016
 
-[01:35:28](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5728) Thompson: very sophisticated campaign ...asking us to do their job...hearsay...affidavit
+[01:35:28](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5728) Thomsen: very sophisticated campaign ...asking us to do their job...hearsay...affidavit
 
 [01:37:10](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5830) only person that can swear to residence...
 
@@ -23179,7 +23183,7 @@
 
 [01:44:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6274) not challengers burden to prove a move tool place
 
-[01:44:42](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6282) Thompsen: They gotta do it right. They did not do it right.
+[01:44:42](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6282) Thomsen: They gotta do it right. They did not do it right.
 
 [01:44:53](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6293) Mérida: ...your statute does not specify either way...does not call for an affidavit... it's silent on what happens if a candidate moves
 
@@ -23219,20 +23223,124 @@
 [01:50:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6652) long standing presumption of validity... we have to presume (1st addr) is accurate...in fact
 burden shift has not happened
 
-[01:51:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6678) with a littel investigation we would find out
+[01:51:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6678) with a little investigation we would find out
 
 [01:51:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6693) not on us to do
 
-[01:51:43](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6703) IMP:Jacobs implies the declaration of candidiacy does have to be filed during circulation?!
+[01:51:43](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6703) IMP:Jacobs implies the declaration of candidacy does have to be filed during circulation?!
+
+[01:51:53](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6713) (broken record.. for 3rd or 4th time) worn I live "somewhere else"...that's enough to shift the burden
+
+[01:52:15](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6735) Jacobs speculates on other sworn statements challenger may have used: affidavit, small claims, divorce deposition
+
+[01:52:43](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6763) our declaration of candidacy form does not ask for addr history...only what is current addr.
+This sworn document does not invalidate the TV addr nom papers
+
+[01:53:22](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6802) Jacobs: but she did not swear she lived st the TV addr ... that's what I'm saying
+
+[01:53:37](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6817) If she filed something saying she lived at the TV addr and moved ... but she didn't for **some reason**, I don't know what reason ...
+
+[01:53:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6832) Thomsen: voted w/staff recommendation... We're being consistent w/our Feb 2020 ruling which kept Sullivan  off the ballot... don't
+see this any differently...their burden... not ours...let's vote...some court will decide
+
+[01:54:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6879) Gancy: Presumption of validity shifted by challenger...declaration of candidacyis key...Yes challenger shows initialaddress conflicts...
+Improper/beyond our scope for us to guess/extrapolate on mismatch...Missed their chance to file written statement on TV addr.
+
+[01:56:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6993) burden of suspicion that nom papers may be invalid
+
+[01:56:58](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7018) Knutson motion on table asking for allowing new evidence for date of move
+
+[01:57:32](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7052) vote on above motion fails 3:3
+
+[01:58:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7132)??? New Knutson motion: 1789 Royal st sigs certified ok; 1834 TV addr sigs deadlocked due to lack of evidence confirming TV road addr
+
+[01:59:54](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7194) Are we going to put them on the ballot?
+
+[02:00:09](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7209) Under Dean's motion, by rule of law they would not be on ballot, but would have right to immediately appeal
+
+[02:00:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7230) Right to appeal wihout thismotion. So obvious we all know what is correct, what is right on ths.
+
+[02:01:25](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7285) For the 1834 is staff recommendation or Dean correct?
+
+[02:01:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7304) Sullivan case
+
+
+[02:02:06](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7326) I believe there are ~3680 valid sigs
+
+[02:02:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7372) no clear and convincing evidence that there are problems with the 1834 sigs / no proof they are invalid
+
+[02:03:22](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7402) I don't think the burden was shifted by the challenge
+
+[02:03:29](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7409) suspect they will win in court
+
+[02:03:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7413) trying to narrow issue, to leave record for future litigation
+
+[02:05:04](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7504) Knutson: in my motion I indicate we deadlocked on the 1835 due to lack of evidence... for example date of move unknown
+
+[02:04:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7440) leave candidate in stronger position to appeal...imp we certify/validate the Royal St 1789 sigs 
 
-[01:51:53](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6713) (broken record.. for 3rd or 4th time) worn I live "somewhere else"...thats enough to shift the burden
+[02:04:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7478) Jacobs re-reads motion to certify 1789 sigs; no finding / deadlocked on 1834 (TV road) sigs based on lack of evidence of 
+where the candidate lived
+
+[02:06:22](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7582) were not invalidating anything, we're deadlocked on whether there is clear and convincing evidence they're invalid
+
+[02:07:53](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7673) Jacobs tries to restate the motion
+
+[02:08:46](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7726) What I heard from secy "Read" about my motion was correct
+
+[02:09:02](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7742) There are 1834 sigs w/TV Road addr. Were deadlocked on whether or not those sigs are invalid.
+
+[02:10:07](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7807) apparent to all of us that she moved during circulation...we don't know when..., so can not determine
+
+[02:10:24](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7824) no clear and convincing evidence that she moved
+
+[02:10:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7838) IMP: staff has evidence she moved -- emails back and forth about the move...
+
+[02:11:05](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7865) Jacobs: asks secy to pls read the motion again
+
+[02:11:58](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7918) secy "Read": He recites the motion outloud
+
+[02:12:11](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7931) move to vote
+
+[02:12:14](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7934) based on insufficient evidence...
+
+[02:12:50](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=7970) motion passes 6:0
 
-TODO... help with additional timestamps is welcome!
 :p0 
 
-## Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
+### Final vote| final video | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
+
+[00:00:09](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=9) gotta give them something to appeal
+
+[00:01:09](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=69) (proposed language) WEC finds H20 should not be placed on ballot
+
+[00:02:10](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=130) by operation of law they are denied ballot access
+
+[00:03:08](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=188) you need 4 votes to get on ballot
+
+[00:03:52](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=232) Judnik: WEC should have motion to grant or deny ballot access ...statutory obligation
+
+[00:05:30](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=330) no rules now about challenge...
+
+[00:06:26](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=386) yours was a procedural opposition, opposed on the process... they
+missed the deadline... so can not clarify record... but pages 34-36 none of
+that applies
+
+[00:06:44](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=404) that's not true... I can not presume they;re valid when staff recommendation...
+
+[00:07:00](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=420) Sullivan didn't even know about it. The candidate here knew
+
+[00:07:24](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=444) call the question, the motion was: based on ... H20 denied ballot access
+
+[00:08:00](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=480) motion fails 3:3
+
+[00:08:06](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=486) Knutson makes new motion that WEC finds H20 have filed sufficient no
+sigs and should be certified/approved for ballot access as indep candidates
+
+[00:08:47](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=527) Mandell objects
+
+[00:09:10](https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws?t=550) motion fails 3:3
 
-TODO: add timestamps
 
 Voted yes 6:0 that 1789 valid signatures were filed with the 
 315 Royal St address for Angela Walker, and deadlocked 3:3: on the 1834 signatures on
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diff -w -u -r1.1206 -r1.1207
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/31 22:38:04 1.1206
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/09/01 00:38:05 1.1207
@@ -23185,20 +23185,47 @@
 
 [01:45:25](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6325) your staff did not ask for an affidavit
 
-01:45:00 Merida
+[01:45:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6300) Merida
 
-01:45:52 multiple moves acceptable as long paper header adjusted in sync,... finally file the declartion of candidacy at end
+[01:45:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6352) multiple moves acceptable as long paper header adjusted in sync,... finally file the declartion of candidacy at end
 
-01:46:41 does not invalidate sigs for the [clean pile of papers w/TV Road]...address
+[01:46:41](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6401) does not invalidate sigs for the [clean pile of papers w/TV Road]...address
 
-01:46:43 talking about a clean set of papers with a clear address...only question is the move date
+[01:46:43](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6403) talking about a clean set of papers with a clear address...only question is the move date
 
-01:47:14 Don't have to file the declaration of candidacy before circulating papers
+[01:47:14](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6434) Don't have to file the declaration of candidacy before circulating papers
 
-01:47:55 Don't have to file the declaration of candidacy until campaign spends money. Would not have to file
+[01:47:55](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6475) Don't have to file the declaration of candidacy until campaign spends money. Would not have to file
 during nom paper circulation until after papers submitted (and challenge deadline expired?).
 
-01:
+[01:48:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6514) w/o the challenge, staff would have acccepted...
+
+[01:48:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6514) IMP: The candidate did file disclosure and swore to live "somewhere else" then shown on initial nom papers. ... challenger clains
+burden was shifted since the address at time of sworn candidate disclosure differs from initial nom papers header address ...implies 
+initial no papers are ...
+
+[01:49:02](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6542) They shifted burden to themselves to prove they actually lived at the first address ( with an affidavit for ex )
+
+[01:49:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6578) ...burden did *not* shift
+
+[01:49:47](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6587) no obligation to disclose the first address...only that it be accurate at time of circulation
+
+[01:50:09](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6609) know that she sworn she lived "somewhere else"
+
+[01:50:19](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6619) sworn she lived "somewhere else" is enough to justify the challenge
+
+[01:50:42](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6642) all she had to do was swear under oath she lived at the first address and then moved
+
+[01:50:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6652) long standing presumption of validity... we have to presume (1st addr) is accurate...in fact
+burden shift has not happened
+
+[01:51:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6678) with a littel investigation we would find out
+
+[01:51:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6693) not on us to do
+
+[01:51:43](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6703) IMP:Jacobs implies the declaration of candidiacy does have to be filed during circulation?!
+
+[01:51:53](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6713) (broken record.. for 3rd or 4th time) worn I live "somewhere else"...thats enough to shift the burden
 
 TODO... help with additional timestamps is welcome!
 :p0 
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diff -w -u -r1.1205 -r1.1206
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/31 12:38:05 1.1205
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/31 22:38:04 1.1206
@@ -22776,6 +22776,29 @@
 
 <https://elections.wi.gov/about/members>
 
+## hearing announcment email
+
+| From: Judnic, Nathan - ELECTIONS <[1]Nathan.Judnic@wisconsin.gov>
+| Date: Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:09 PM
+| Subject: Commission Meeting - August 20, 2020 - Appearance Information, Information Posted
+| To: Judnic, Nathan - ELECTIONS <[2]Nathan.Judnic@wisconsin.gov>
+| Cc: Wolfe, Meagan - ELECTIONS <[3]Meagan.Wolfe@wisconsin.gov>, Rydecki, Richard H -
+|   ELECTIONS <[4]Richard.Rydecki@wisconsin.gov>, Magney, Reid - ELECTIONS
+|   <[5]Reid.Magney@wisconsin.gov>, Kehoe, Robert Y - ELECTIONS
+|   <[6]robert.kehoe@wisconsin.gov>, Hauge, Sharrie - ELECTIONS
+|   <[7]Sharrie.Hauge@wisconsin.gov>
+
+Below please find details regarding the Commission’s August 20, 2020 meeting to hear
+and decide ballot access challenges against candidates seeking access to the ballot
+for President – Vice President as an independent.  The Commission’s meeting, starting
+at 3:oo p.m. is the hearing held pursuant to Wis. Admin. Code EL s. 2.07(2)(b), after
+[...]
+
+* The matters will be called and heard in order of the Case Number assigned:
+
+    * EL 20-30  Santeler v. West
+    * EL 20-31  Brent, et al. v. West, et al.
+    * EL 20-32  Arntsen v. Hawkins, et al.
 
 ## Main video of hearing | 2+ hours: <https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=14>
 
@@ -23162,6 +23185,21 @@
 
 [01:45:25](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6325) your staff did not ask for an affidavit
 
+01:45:00 Merida
+
+01:45:52 multiple moves acceptable as long paper header adjusted in sync,... finally file the declartion of candidacy at end
+
+01:46:41 does not invalidate sigs for the [clean pile of papers w/TV Road]...address
+
+01:46:43 talking about a clean set of papers with a clear address...only question is the move date
+
+01:47:14 Don't have to file the declaration of candidacy before circulating papers
+
+01:47:55 Don't have to file the declaration of candidacy until campaign spends money. Would not have to file
+during nom paper circulation until after papers submitted (and challenge deadline expired?).
+
+01:
+
 TODO... help with additional timestamps is welcome!
 :p0 
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1204 -r1.1205
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 16:49:25 1.1204
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/31 12:38:05 1.1205
@@ -23302,7 +23302,6 @@
 > [escalation is **getting masses of people out into these streets**...](https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM?t=412) 
 > this is no time to slow the rebellion down
 
-
 ### Photos: troop carrier in Kenosha 
 
 ![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190139.jpg){ width=100% }
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diff -w -u -r1.1203 -r1.1204
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 16:38:06 1.1203
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 16:49:25 1.1204
@@ -23286,7 +23286,7 @@
 in from of the convoy -- the demonstration organizers artfully defused the
 situation. These were canvass covered troop carriers with perhaps 4-6 troops
 per truck -- men visible through the open to air back ends.  I went home,
-honoring the impending curfew -- the bulk of the crowd seemed to be satying
+honoring the impending curfew -- the bulk of the crowd seemed to be staying
 and gathering again in front of the Municipal blg again.
 
 Many boarded up windows at gas stations, small biz, and major gov blgs. A
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diff -w -u -r1.1201 -r1.1202
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 13:04:20 1.1201
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 13:22:56 1.1202
@@ -23264,11 +23264,11 @@
 <iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
   src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3ZjtAWn45PM?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
   frameborder="0"></iframe>
-\
+<br> 
 <iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
   src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rieH37R7kz8?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
   frameborder="0"></iframe>
-\
+<br> 
 <iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
   src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4Y5woHTT67Q?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
   frameborder="0"></iframe>
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diff -w -u -r1.1200 -r1.1201
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 13:00:37 1.1200
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 13:04:20 1.1201
@@ -23264,11 +23264,11 @@
 <iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
   src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3ZjtAWn45PM?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
   frameborder="0"></iframe>
-
+\
 <iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
   src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rieH37R7kz8?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
   frameborder="0"></iframe>
-
+\
 <iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
   src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4Y5woHTT67Q?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
   frameborder="0"></iframe>
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diff -w -u -r1.1199 -r1.1200
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 12:52:32 1.1199
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 13:00:37 1.1200
@@ -23261,27 +23261,17 @@
 
 ## videos
 
-<https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM>
-
-<https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8>
-
-<https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q>
-
-
 <iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
   src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3ZjtAWn45PM?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
   frameborder="0"></iframe>
 
-#_hide{
-
-fails
-<iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
-
-| <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM"> </iframe>
-| <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8"> </iframe>
-| <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q"> </iframe>
+<iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
+  src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rieH37R7kz8?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
+  frameborder="0"></iframe>
 
-#_hide}
+<iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
+  src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4Y5woHTT67Q?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
+  frameborder="0"></iframe>
 
 ## a report:
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1198 -r1.1199
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 16:38:05 1.1198
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/30 12:52:32 1.1199
@@ -23267,6 +23267,11 @@
 
 <https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q>
 
+
+<iframe id="ytplayer" type="text/html" width="640" height="360"                                
+  src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3ZjtAWn45PM?autoplay=0&origin=http://zq3q.org"            
+  frameborder="0"></iframe>
+
 #_hide{
 
 fails
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diff -w -u -r1.1197 -r1.1198
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:31:58 1.1197
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 16:38:05 1.1198
@@ -23248,12 +23248,16 @@
 
 ###### {#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020
 
-# [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march | NAARPR, FRSO, CPAC ... | Fri Aug 28 2020](#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020)
+# [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march | NAARPR, FRSO, CPAC ... | Fri Aug 28 2020](https://zq3q.org/pco/#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020)
 
 In response to an email about the [NAARPR](https://naarpr.org/) sponsored rally -- said email was forwarded
 to the [Milwaukee End the Wars Coalition list](https://groups.google.com/d/contactowner/EtWcomm) --
 I decided to go to the [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march](https://naarpr.org/updates/join-naarpr-for-a-solidarity-rally-in-kenosha-wi-tomorrow-august-28th-at-5-pm/) at 5pm near at the  Municipal blg.
 
+As [Chapman](https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform) says:
+
+> [escalation is **getting masses of people out into these streets**...](https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM?t=412) 
+> this is no time to slow the rebellion down
 
 ## videos
 
@@ -23279,7 +23283,7 @@
 Automated cell phone pop up alert at 630pm warning us of 7pm Kenosha curfew.
 
 **Powerful chanting** -- on mic and off, good energy, clearly a mix of locals, Milwaukee people, and
-Chicago people, including Frank Chapman. FRSO banner there, Chapman's CPAC
+Chicago people, including [Frank Chapman](https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform). FRSO banner there, Chapman's CPAC
 people there, also NAARPR. Perhaps 130 people? 
 
 The (national guard?) pulled up in 3-4 hum-vees/troop carriers at the end
@@ -23298,7 +23302,11 @@
 protestors quieted down as we past the burned out used car lot -- sobering.  I
 left there inspired by the effort, unity and young spirit.
 
-As Chapman says "".  
+As Chapman says:
+
+> [escalation is **getting masses of people out into these streets**...](https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM?t=412) 
+> this is no time to slow the rebellion down
+
 
 ### Photos: troop carrier in Kenosha 
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1196 -r1.1197
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:30:12 1.1196
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:31:58 1.1197
@@ -23255,15 +23255,23 @@
 I decided to go to the [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march](https://naarpr.org/updates/join-naarpr-for-a-solidarity-rally-in-kenosha-wi-tomorrow-august-28th-at-5-pm/) at 5pm near at the  Municipal blg.
 
 
+## videos
+
 <https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM>
 
+<https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8>
+
+<https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q>
+
 #_hide{
+
 fails
 <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM"> </iframe>
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8"> </iframe>
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q"> </iframe>
+
 #_hide}
 
 ## a report:
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diff -w -u -r1.1195 -r1.1196
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:23:31 1.1195
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:30:12 1.1196
@@ -23254,13 +23254,17 @@
 to the [Milwaukee End the Wars Coalition list](https://groups.google.com/d/contactowner/EtWcomm) --
 I decided to go to the [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march](https://naarpr.org/updates/join-naarpr-for-a-solidarity-rally-in-kenosha-wi-tomorrow-august-28th-at-5-pm/) at 5pm near at the  Municipal blg.
 
-zzz
 
+<https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM>
+
+#_hide{
+fails
 <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM"> </iframe>
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8"> </iframe>
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q"> </iframe>
+#_hide}
 
 ## a report:
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1194 -r1.1195
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:19:24 1.1194
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:23:31 1.1195
@@ -23254,16 +23254,19 @@
 to the [Milwaukee End the Wars Coalition list](https://groups.google.com/d/contactowner/EtWcomm) --
 I decided to go to the [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march](https://naarpr.org/updates/join-naarpr-for-a-solidarity-rally-in-kenosha-wi-tomorrow-august-28th-at-5-pm/) at 5pm near at the  Municipal blg.
 
+zzz
+
+<iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
+
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM"> </iframe>
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8"> </iframe>
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q"> </iframe>
 
-<iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 ## a report:
 
 Automated cell phone pop up alert at 630pm warning us of 7pm Kenosha curfew.
 
-Good chanting, good energy, clearly a mix of locals, Milwaukee people, and
+**Powerful chanting** -- on mic and off, good energy, clearly a mix of locals, Milwaukee people, and
 Chicago people, including Frank Chapman. FRSO banner there, Chapman's CPAC
 people there, also NAARPR. Perhaps 130 people? 
 
@@ -23287,11 +23290,11 @@
 
 ### Photos: troop carrier in Kenosha 
 
-![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190139.jpg){ width=80% }
+![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190139.jpg){ width=100% }
 
-![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149.jpg){ width=80% }
+![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149.jpg){ width=100% }
 
-![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190159_1.jpg){ width=80% }
+![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190159_1.jpg){ width=100% }
 
 :pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
 <br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1193 -r1.1194
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:17:31 1.1193
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:19:24 1.1194
@@ -23258,6 +23258,7 @@
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8"> </iframe>
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q"> </iframe>
 
+<iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 ## a report:
 
 Automated cell phone pop up alert at 630pm warning us of 7pm Kenosha curfew.
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diff -w -u -r1.1192 -r1.1193
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:09:45 1.1192
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:17:31 1.1193
@@ -23250,17 +23250,15 @@
 
 # [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march | NAARPR, FRSO, CPAC ... | Fri Aug 28 2020](#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020)
 
-In response to an email about the [NAARPR](https://naarpr.org/) sponsored rally -- this email was forwarded
+In response to an email about the [NAARPR](https://naarpr.org/) sponsored rally -- said email was forwarded
 to the [Milwaukee End the Wars Coalition list](https://groups.google.com/d/contactowner/EtWcomm) --
-I decided to go to the [Solidarity Rally/BLM march](https://naarpr.org/updates/join-naarpr-for-a-solidarity-rally-in-kenosha-wi-tomorrow-august-28th-at-5-pm/) at 5pm near at the Kenosha Municipal blg.
-
-The videos:
+I decided to go to the [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march](https://naarpr.org/updates/join-naarpr-for-a-solidarity-rally-in-kenosha-wi-tomorrow-august-28th-at-5-pm/) at 5pm near at the  Municipal blg.
 
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM"> </iframe>
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8"> </iframe>
 | <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q"> </iframe>
 
-## Here's a report:
+## a report:
 
 Automated cell phone pop up alert at 630pm warning us of 7pm Kenosha curfew.
 
@@ -23268,28 +23266,31 @@
 Chicago people, including Frank Chapman. FRSO banner there, Chapman's CPAC
 people there, also NAARPR. Perhaps 130 people? 
 
-The (national guard?) pulled up in 3-4 hum-vees/troop carriers at the end of march just before
-7pm. One tall thin older white guy positioned himself in from of the
-convoy -- the demonstration organizers artfully defused the situation. These
-were canvass covered troop carriers with perhaps 4-6 troops per truck -- men
-visible through the open to air back ends.  I went home, honoring the impending curfew -- the bulk of the crowd
-seemed to be satying and gathering again in front of the Municipal blg again.
-
-We had passed a [used car lot](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rieH37R7kz8&t=1320s) filled with entirely burned up cars! Many boarded up
-windows at gas stations, small biz, and major gov blgs. A couple of burned up
-blgs. Some artful graffiti on the particle board.
-
-My hunch or impression is that Kenosha is damaged and vulnerable.
-The protestors quieted down as we past the burned out used car lot -- sobering!
-I left there inspired by the effort, unity and young spirit.
+The (national guard?) pulled up in 3-4 hum-vees/troop carriers at the end
+of march just before 7pm. One tall thin older white guy positioned himself
+in from of the convoy -- the demonstration organizers artfully defused the
+situation. These were canvass covered troop carriers with perhaps 4-6 troops
+per truck -- men visible through the open to air back ends.  I went home,
+honoring the impending curfew -- the bulk of the crowd seemed to be satying
+and gathering again in front of the Municipal blg again.
+
+Many boarded up windows at gas stations, small biz, and major gov blgs. A
+couple of burned up blgs. Some artful graffiti on the particle board.
+We had passed a [used car lot](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rieH37R7kz8&t=1320s) filled with entirely burned up cars! 
+
+My hunch or impression is that Kenosha is damaged and vulnerable.  The
+protestors quieted down as we past the burned out used car lot -- sobering.  I
+left there inspired by the effort, unity and young spirit.
+
+As Chapman says "".  
 
 ### Photos: troop carrier in Kenosha 
 
-![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190139.jpg)
+![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190139.jpg){ width=80% }
 
-![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149.jpg)
+![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149.jpg){ width=80% }
 
-![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190159_1.jpg)
+![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190159_1.jpg){ width=80% }
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1191 -r1.1192
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 14:38:03 1.1191
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 15:09:45 1.1192
@@ -23246,7 +23246,7 @@
 
 <https://www.marktaliano.net/ken-stone-speaks-at-anti-syrian-war-event-at-art-crawl-in-hamilton-dec-11-2015-december-15-2015/>
 
-###### {#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020}
+###### {#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020
 
 # [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march | NAARPR, FRSO, CPAC ... | Fri Aug 28 2020](#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020)
 
@@ -23256,13 +23256,40 @@
 
 The videos:
 
-<https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM>
+| <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM"> </iframe>
+| <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8"> </iframe>
+| <iframe width="420" height="345" src="https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q"> </iframe>
 
-<https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8>
+## Here's a report:
 
-<https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q>
+Automated cell phone pop up alert at 630pm warning us of 7pm Kenosha curfew.
 
+Good chanting, good energy, clearly a mix of locals, Milwaukee people, and
+Chicago people, including Frank Chapman. FRSO banner there, Chapman's CPAC
+people there, also NAARPR. Perhaps 130 people? 
 
+The (national guard?) pulled up in 3-4 hum-vees/troop carriers at the end of march just before
+7pm. One tall thin older white guy positioned himself in from of the
+convoy -- the demonstration organizers artfully defused the situation. These
+were canvass covered troop carriers with perhaps 4-6 troops per truck -- men
+visible through the open to air back ends.  I went home, honoring the impending curfew -- the bulk of the crowd
+seemed to be satying and gathering again in front of the Municipal blg again.
+
+We had passed a [used car lot](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rieH37R7kz8&t=1320s) filled with entirely burned up cars! Many boarded up
+windows at gas stations, small biz, and major gov blgs. A couple of burned up
+blgs. Some artful graffiti on the particle board.
+
+My hunch or impression is that Kenosha is damaged and vulnerable.
+The protestors quieted down as we past the burned out used car lot -- sobering!
+I left there inspired by the effort, unity and young spirit.
+
+### Photos: troop carrier in Kenosha 
+
+![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190139.jpg)
+
+![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149.jpg)
+
+![](https://archive.org/download/kenosha_blm_20200828_190149/kenosha_blm_20200828_190159_1.jpg)
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1190 -r1.1191
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/28 22:38:03 1.1190
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/29 14:38:03 1.1191
@@ -23246,6 +23246,24 @@
 
 <https://www.marktaliano.net/ken-stone-speaks-at-anti-syrian-war-event-at-art-crawl-in-hamilton-dec-11-2015-december-15-2015/>
 
+###### {#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020}
+
+# [Kenosha Solidarity Rally/BLM march | NAARPR, FRSO, CPAC ... | Fri Aug 28 2020](#ndzst_Kenosha_BLM_FriAug20-2020)
+
+In response to an email about the [NAARPR](https://naarpr.org/) sponsored rally -- this email was forwarded
+to the [Milwaukee End the Wars Coalition list](https://groups.google.com/d/contactowner/EtWcomm) --
+I decided to go to the [Solidarity Rally/BLM march](https://naarpr.org/updates/join-naarpr-for-a-solidarity-rally-in-kenosha-wi-tomorrow-august-28th-at-5-pm/) at 5pm near at the Kenosha Municipal blg.
+
+The videos:
+
+<https://youtu.be/3ZjtAWn45PM>
+
+<https://youtu.be/rieH37R7kz8>
+
+<https://youtu.be/4Y5woHTT67Q>
+
+
+
 :pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
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diff -w -u -r1.1189 -r1.1190
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/28 20:38:06 1.1189
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/28 22:38:03 1.1190
@@ -3682,7 +3682,7 @@
 
 <https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-03-01/paul-krugman-s-four-questions-about-mmt>
 
-###### {#onyri_Michael_Hudson}
+###### {#onyri_Michael_Hudson}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#onyri_Michael_Hudson
 
 ## [Michael Hudson Intro](#onyri_Michael_Hudson)  :bio:
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1188 -r1.1189
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/28 12:38:05 1.1188
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/28 20:38:06 1.1189
@@ -22420,6 +22420,14 @@
 > and attacks leftists. Fittingly, the website was flooded with alt-right and
 > conspiracist videos.
 
+#_hide{
+# DailyMotion
+
+Based in Paris France. ~2007 
+indep and mainstream
+not too populu in usa
+#_hide}
+
 ###### {#gegew_PeerTube}
 
 # [PeerTube](#gegew_PeerTube)
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diff -w -u -r1.1187 -r1.1188
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/28 00:38:06 1.1187
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/28 12:38:05 1.1188
@@ -18763,7 +18763,7 @@
 
  :biobot:TqjVvx0eRzzm:add new bio above:
 
-:=netiquette:=netiquette:quoting practice:toppost:top post:post:=posting:=email_etiquette:=etiq: { 
+:=netiquette:=netiquette:quoting practice:toppost:top post:post:=posting:=email_etiquette:=etiquettenet: { 
 
 ###### {#anzpq_AhashA_netiquette}    lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#anzpq_AhashA_netiquette
 
@@ -18799,6 +18799,7 @@
 |     <http://www.redballoon.net/~snorwood/quote-rant.shtml>
 |         # see "good quoting practice"
 |
+| <https://man.sr.ht/lists.sr.ht/etiquette.md>
 | <https://useplaintext.email/>
 |
 #_h{
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diff -w -u -r1.1186 -r1.1187
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 18:38:03 1.1186
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/28 00:38:06 1.1187
@@ -8705,7 +8705,7 @@
 
 ###### {#vefzo_simplicity_of_plain_text}
 
-# [simplicity/productivity of plain text files](#vefzo_simplicity_of_plain_text)    :plaintext:plain text canon
+# [simplicity/productivity of plain text files](#vefzo_simplicity_of_plain_text)    :=plaintext:plain text canon
 
 "Always bet on text." <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8451271>
 
@@ -8734,6 +8734,8 @@
 
 <http://plaintext-productivity.net/>
 
+<https://useplaintext.email/>
+
 <http://becomeawritertoday.com/plain-text/>
 
 <https://ulyssesapp.com/blog/2015/06/plain-text-productivity/>
@@ -18797,6 +18799,8 @@
 |     <http://www.redballoon.net/~snorwood/quote-rant.shtml>
 |         # see "good quoting practice"
 |
+| <https://useplaintext.email/>
+|
 #_h{
 | # 18:31:00 Mon 190805 7j 6 28511 -/- w2 /usr/local/nmh/share/doc/nmh/contrib
 | # epjdn rodmant $ grep '">"'  replyfilter
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diff -w -u -r1.1185 -r1.1186
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 12:38:06 1.1185
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 18:38:03 1.1186
@@ -222,6 +222,8 @@
 Nader on spoiler effect
 :   skip to 50:30 <https://archives.kpfa.org/data/20200817-Mon1100.mp3>
 
+states   | proportional rep  
+
 ---
 
 ###### {#eyzxz_Vaccines_Licensed_for_Use_in_the_United_States_O174O_vaccine_insertsAslashAwarnings}
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diff -w -u -r1.1184 -r1.1185
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 01:38:20 1.1184
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 12:38:06 1.1185
@@ -17632,7 +17632,8 @@
 
 ##  <http://www.getrssfeed.com/>
 
-"Paste your iTunes / SoundCloud urls and let the service retrieve the podcast public RSS feed for you"
+"Paste the Apple Podcast / Google Podcast / SoundCloud / Website URL ...
+and let the service retrieve the podcast public RSS feed for you"
 
 Examples that worked:
 
@@ -23196,6 +23197,40 @@
 
 2015 "on the street" reporting example: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69m-9RkuKzs>
 
+###### {#qllak_hamiltoncoalitiontostopthewar-intro}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#qllak_hamiltoncoalitiontostopthewar-intro
+
+# [Hamilton coalition to stop the war | overview](#qllak_hamiltoncoalitiontostopthewar-intro)
+
+<https://hamiltoncoalitiontostopthewar.ca/>
+
+<https://www.facebook.com/hamiltoncoalitiontostopthewar/notes/>
+
+## by or about
+
+<https://www.globalresearch.ca/author/hamilton-coalition-to-stop-the-war>
+
+<https://www.change.org/o/hamilton_coalition_to_stop_the_war>
+
+> The Hamilton Coalition to Stop the War began life as the November 16th
+> Coalition, which formed in Hamilton to organize opposition to the then
+> impending attack on Iraq in 2003.
+
+### Ken Stone 
+
+<https://www.syriasolidaritymovement.org/about/steering-committee/>
+
+> Ken Stone is a veteran anti-war, anti-racist, social justice, and
+> environmental activist in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. He is the Treasurer of
+> the Hamilton Coalition To Stop The War, a Steering Committee member of the
+> Canadian Peace Alliance, and a former Central Committee member of the Global
+> March to Jerusalem. He has written a number of letters and articles on the
+> Syrian crisis for the Hamilton Spectator and Global Research and appeared
+> numerous times on Press TV.
+
+Stone speaks out on assassination of Gen. Soleimani: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-odTAalQ9gE&feature=youtu.be&t=5978>
+
+<https://www.marktaliano.net/ken-stone-speaks-at-anti-syrian-war-event-at-art-crawl-in-hamilton-dec-11-2015-december-15-2015/>
+
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diff -w -u -r1.1183 -r1.1184
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 01:36:19 1.1183
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 01:38:20 1.1184
@@ -23107,7 +23107,7 @@
 
 [01:38:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5929) Jacobs: no...
 
-[01:39:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5979) was info from complainant sufficient to... was their clear and convincing evidence to shift the burden (towrds doubting the TV address)...staff provided info
+[01:39:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5978) was info from complainant sufficient to... was their clear and convincing evidence to shift the burden (towrds doubting the TV address)...staff provided info
 
 [01:40:27](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6027) ...then the burden at that point is *not* shifted ( favorable to H20 )
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1182 -r1.1183
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 01:32:04 1.1182
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 01:36:19 1.1183
@@ -23107,7 +23107,7 @@
 
 [01:38:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5929) Jacobs: no...
 
-[01:39:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5979) was info from complainant sufficient to... was their clear and convincing evidence to shift the burden (towrds doubting the TV address)...staff provided info
+[01:39:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5979) was info from complainant sufficient to... was their clear and convincing evidence to shift the burden (towrds doubting the TV address)...staff provided info
 
 [01:40:27](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6027) ...then the burden at that point is *not* shifted ( favorable to H20 )
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1181 -r1.1182
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 00:38:06 1.1181
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 01:32:04 1.1182
@@ -22807,7 +22807,6 @@
 
 ### [video timestamps | H20 Aug 20 nom paper challenge hearing](#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times)
 
-
 [00:01:05](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=65) Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
     12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)
 
@@ -23108,10 +23107,48 @@
 
 [01:38:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5929) Jacobs: no...
 
+[01:39:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5979) was info from complainant sufficient to... was their clear and convincing evidence to shift the burden (towrds doubting the TV address)...staff provided info
+
+[01:40:27](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6027) ...then the burden at that point is *not* shifted ( favorable to H20 )
+
+[01:40:35](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6035) no response...but burden did not shift...but she did not have to respond ( H20 campaign has no burden )
+
+[01:40:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6044) make a finding as to whether there is clear and convincing evidence that she did not live at TV Road
+
+[01:41:04](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6064) Jacobs: appreciate that...doubt it will break deadlock
+
+[01:41:20](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6080) still a motion on the floor to admit evidence from Merida
+
+[01:41:46](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6106) don't find clear and convincing evidence for motion #1
+
+[01:41:57](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6117) just one piece of factual info...I'd flip all of you, that are currently saying based on just purely procedural things that...They have the presumption of validity..
+there's more than enough sigs
+
+[01:42:24](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6144) withdraw my motion...we could have a motion finding there is *not* clear and convincing evidence to doubt the TV road addr on the nom papers for the 1834 sigs
+
+[01:42:48](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6168) violates everything we've ever done in every single previous hearing we've ever had on nom papers
+
+[01:42:56](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6176) To make a special exception...for a party that decided not to follow the rules...prejudices the challenger...we told the challenger same thing in prior hearing
+
+[01:43:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6220) challenge, response, verify
+
+[01:43:56](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6236) framing question incorrectly
+
+[01:44:17](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6257) is there clear and convincing evidence that the TV addr conflicts w/the candidate disclosure filing's address? If yes burden shifts.
+
+[01:44:32](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6272) never mentioned any move
+
+[01:44:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6274) not challengers burden to prove a move tool place
+
+[01:44:42](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6282) Thompsen: They gotta do it right. They did not do it right.
+
+[01:44:53](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6293) Mérida: ...your statute does not specify either way...does not call for an affidavit... it's silent on what happens if a candidate moves
+
+[01:45:25](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=6325) your staff did not ask for an affidavit
+
 TODO... help with additional timestamps is welcome!
 :p0 
 
-
 ## Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
 
 TODO: add timestamps
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diff -w -u -r1.1180 -r1.1181
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/26 20:38:06 1.1180
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/27 00:38:06 1.1181
@@ -23109,6 +23109,7 @@
 [01:38:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5929) Jacobs: no...
 
 TODO... help with additional timestamps is welcome!
+:p0 
 
 
 ## Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
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diff -w -u -r1.1179 -r1.1180
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 21:07:33 1.1179
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/26 20:38:06 1.1180
@@ -23138,6 +23138,26 @@
 
 > [min viable user](https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/69wk8y/the_tyranny_of_the_minimum_viable_user/)
 
+###### {#fjmde_Dimitri_Lascaris_intro}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#fjmde_Dimitri_Lascaris_intro
+
+# [Dimitri Lascaris intro](#fjmde_Dimitri_Lascaris_intro)
+
+<https://dimitrilascaris.org/about/>
+
+<https://www.teamdimitri.ca/the_team>
+
+<https://twitter.com/dimitrilascaris>
+
+## by or about
+
+<https://www.greenparty.ca/en/media-release/2020-06-02/dimitri-lascaris-contestant-green-party-canada-leadership>
+
+> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Green_Party_of_Canada_leadership_election>
+
+<https://therealnews.com/bios/dimitri-lascaris>
+
+2015 "on the street" reporting example: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69m-9RkuKzs>
+
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diff -w -u -r1.1178 -r1.1179
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 14:38:04 1.1178
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 21:07:33 1.1179
@@ -22823,13 +22823,13 @@
 
 [00:07:17](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=437) Mérida -- calendar days vs business days. Received notice of challenge at 7:37pm Milwaukee time Fri Aug 7 via email.
 
-[00:08:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=30780) If time limit is less than 10 days then weekend days are included, not skipped.
+[00:08:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=513) If time limit is less than 10 days then weekend days are included, not skipped.
 
-[00:08:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=31740) Mérida: Deadline should have run out on Tuesday Aug 11...
+[00:08:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=529) Mérida: Deadline should have run out on Tuesday Aug 11...
 
-[00:09:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=35040) Mérida: We were told we could not file anything on Tuesday.
+[00:09:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=584) Mérida: We were told we could not file anything on Tuesday.
 
-[00:09:57](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=35820) Mandell's 10 minutes.
+[00:09:57](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=597) Mandell's 10 minutes.
 
 [00:17:26](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1046) Mérida responds.
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1177 -r1.1178
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 12:38:05 1.1177
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 14:38:04 1.1178
@@ -23128,6 +23128,16 @@
 
 <http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/how-to-write-in-plain-english.html>
 
+> <https://plainlanguage.gov/guidelines/>
+
+###### {#grwzd_CLI_vs_GUI}
+
+# [CLI vs GUI](#grwzd_CLI_vs_GUI)  :=cliadvocacy:=tuiadvocacy:cli:tui:gui:    lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#grwzd_CLI_vs_GUI
+
+<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24268533>
+
+> [min viable user](https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/69wk8y/the_tyranny_of_the_minimum_viable_user/)
+
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diff -w -u -r1.1176 -r1.1177
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 01:08:21 1.1176
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 12:38:05 1.1177
@@ -23120,6 +23120,14 @@
 nom forms with the earlier TV Road address.
 
 
+---
+
+###### {#mjyka_writing_tips_O174O_writing_best_practices}
+
+# [writing tips | writing best practices](#mjyka_writing_tips_O174O_writing_best_practices)
+
+<http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/how-to-write-in-plain-english.html>
+
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diff -w -u -r1.1175 -r1.1176
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 00:50:51 1.1175
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 01:08:21 1.1176
@@ -22800,12 +22800,12 @@
 > is made under oath or penalty of perjury, and this serves as evidence for
 > its veracity and is required in court proceedings.
 
-Jacobs' arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests (00:53:34) to
+Jacobs' arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests [00:53:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3214) to
 have been treated more like a court trial.
 
 ###### {#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times
 
-### [video timestamps](#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times)
+### [video timestamps | H20 Aug 20 nom paper challenge hearing](#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times)
 
 
 [00:01:05](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=65) Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
@@ -23108,7 +23108,7 @@
 
 [01:38:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5929) Jacobs: no...
 
-TODO... help with addition timestamps is welcome!
+TODO... help with additional timestamps is welcome!
 
 
 ## Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
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diff -w -u -r1.1174 -r1.1175
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 00:38:06 1.1174
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 00:50:51 1.1175
@@ -23080,17 +23080,33 @@
 
 [01:26:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5198) Jacobs responds to date of move motion
 
-01:26:40 challenger...no notice of this brand new fact...only hearsay
+[01:26:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5200) challenger...no notice of this brand new fact...only hearsay
 
-01:27:03 obligation to file verified response was on the candidate
+[01:27:03](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5223) obligation to file verified response was on the candidate
 
-01:27:21 not fair to sandbag the challengers
+[01:27:21](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5241) not fair to sandbag the challengers
 
-01:27:45 2016...never allowed introduction of ancillary evidence ( in nom paper hearings )... always required verified response
+[01:27:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5265) 2016...never allowed introduction of ancillary evidence ( in nom paper hearings )... always required verified response
 
-01:28:01 concerned...suddenly change..we never have before...it's unfair, unduly prejudicial
+[01:28:01](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5281) concerned...suddenly change..we never have before...it's unfair, unduly prejudicial
 
-01:30:47 answer...extremely obvious
+[01:30:47](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5447) answer...extremely obvious
+
+[01:31:58](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5518) could have filed supplemental sigs ( > 4000 )
+
+[01:32:31](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5551) we have no proof (of "TV Road" addr validity)
+
+[01:33:04](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5584) Mérida: this is your process
+
+[01:33:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5624) we just won't look at them ( supp. sigs ) ...unless...ruling in 2016
+
+[01:35:28](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5728) Thompson: very sophisticated campaign ...asking us to do their job...hearsay...affidavit
+
+[01:37:10](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5830) only person that can swear to residence...
+
+[01:38:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5920) Knutson: (could we) have A. Walker zoom in and testify date of move
+
+[01:38:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5929) Jacobs: no...
 
 TODO... help with addition timestamps is welcome!
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1173 -r1.1174
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 23:34:09 1.1173
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/25 00:38:06 1.1174
@@ -22807,280 +22807,6 @@
 
 ### [video timestamps](#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times)
 
-#_hide{
-00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
-    12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)
-
-00:04:22 No new factual information will be allowed to be added to record by Green Party at this hearing since they submitted nothing in writing in advance.
-
-00:04:52 no factual assertions not in the record before us allowed
-
-00:04:56 OK for Green Party to "argue the law".
-
-00:05:33 Green Party forfeited right to deny any assertions by the challenger.
-
-00:06:18 "...that's the only fair way to do it"
-
-00:07:17 Mérida -- calendar days vs business days. Received notice of challenge at 7:37pm Milwaukee time Fri Aug 7 via email.
-
-08:33:00 If time limit is less than 10 days then weekend days are included, not skipped.
-
-08:49:00 Mérida: Deadline should have run out on Tuesday Aug 11...
-
-09:44:00 Mérida: We were told we could not file anything on Tuesday.
-
-09:57:00 Mandell's 10 minutes.
-
-00:17:26 Mérida responds.
-
-00:21:55 Mandell responds.
-
-00:23:05 will of electors argument
-
-00:23:29 paragraph 1 on page 29 of Feb 29 2020 WEC meeting materials concerning the motion covering "will of electors" 
-
-00:23:32 Sec 5.01 subdiv 1 does not apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions; "will of electors" not a factor
-
-00:24:20 start of questions for Mérida or Mandell
-
-00:24:25 Question from Spindell to staff person Megan
-
-00:25:00 Megan: I believe we included all the relevant emails between the Green Party and us as part of the staff memo
-
-00:25:16 Judnic on emails
-
-00:25:18 Mr Williams (election specialist Robert Williams?) not aware of conversation w/Mérida
-
-00:27:00 Sidell speculates Walker moved Jul 30 or 31
-
-00:27:30 Jacobs: move date -- that information is not before this commission
-
-00:28:30 Sidell: nom papers... very carefully done...checked out ( by Green Party )
-
-00:29:20 facts should have been ... by filing a verified response
-
-00:29:51 Democratic part of WI
-
-00:30:54 Arnsten does not work for Democratic party ... is a retied lawyer at Foley...
-
-00:31:24 Mereida not allowed to answer Spindell re cur addr
-
-00:32:04 Knutson asks Judnic about time period for affidavits on nom paper (header) corrections
-
-00:32:33 Judnic re correcting headers -- an affidavit may be done by circulator or signer
-
-00:33:16 not later than 3 calendar days after Aug 4 due 430pm date
-
-00:34:12 Judnic: complaint received on Fri Aug 7 just before 430pm
-
-00:34:24 confirmation... had been received
-
-00:34:50 emailed Green Party (Mérida) within an hour or two of receiving the complaint
-
-00:35:33 explains deadline...how to respond...instructions
-
-00:35:54 Monday at 430pm was deadline to respond
-
-00:36:08 phone call Monday afternoon with Dave S
-
-00:36:24 Mérida and Judnic phone call -- asked about response options
-
-00:36:39 most candidates (do)... not going to give legal advice
-
-00:37:24 Knutson: 2 of 3 days were weekend days
-
-00:37:50 IMPORTANT: failure to file is all but fatal (38:40)
-
-00:38:19 Mérida: this was presented as an option
-
-00:39:06 Mérida: emails on record from staff are not complete
-
-00:39:38 Mandell: Democratic party of WI has nothing to do with the complaint
-
-00:39:38 Mandell: I wrote the complaint ( for Arnsten )
-
-00:39:50 Mérida: chg of address...cand addr not necessary for Fed cand...
-
-00:40:10 Mérida: have to operate in way ...instructed
-
-00:40:18 Mérida: reason addr is on a nom paper
-
-00:41:00 Mérida: splitting of hairs
-
-00:41:27 ??? Mérida: candidates table was submitted [ I think she said "table". ]
-
-00:41:44 to try to curtail democratic voice of citizens
-
-00:42:19 Clancy: what is procedure for a candidate chg of residence during signing period
-
-00:42:54 Judnic answers
-
-00:43:40 Judnic: if a person would move...
-
-00:43:47 Judnic: example in June 2020
-
-00:44:30 Judnic: IMPORTANT/Judic: the main issue...we had no idea...accuracy of the address on the header unknowable
-
-00:45:20 Judnic: no statement in the record as to what happened ... had there been an affidavit about the move
-
-00:45:50 Mérida/IMPORTANT: we did as instructed...filed declaration of candidacy w/new addr ( doc shown on screen earlier/when?  )
-
-00:46:59 TODO/FIXME
-
-00:47:15 IMPORTANT - deadline for declaration of candidacy was Tue Aug 4 430pm
-
-00:47:33 IMPORTANT - Knutson: no evidence the challenged 1800+ sigs have an incorrect header addr for Walker
-
-00:48:47 nom papers on same date with conflicting addresses for Walker
-
-00:49:20 Judnic: the challenge is...only one declaration of candidacy (that one had) no indication that it was an amendment
-
-00:49:30 Jacobs: a single affidavit announcing the move would have solved...
-
-00:49:40 Jacobs: inexplicably
-
-00:49:44 REVIEW - Jacobs: we have a sworn statement ... swears (00:49:58)
-
-00:50:05 Jacobs: solvable by an affidavit ... so you are assuming first addr was valid (50:15)
-
-00:50:28 Jacobs: we have no idea what ... her addr..
-
-00:50:44 Knutson: clearly...issue with her moving (per staff)
-
-00:51:13 Knutson: no evidence that 1864 sigs... that there was any problem ...
-
-00:51:56 Jacobs: we don't know if that was her address ... inexplicably
-
-00:52:20 Jacobs: given an affidavit-stated move date...challenger could break the 1864 sigs into valid and invalid sets
-
-00:52:53 Jacobs: we do not know what addr she was at in the beginning
-
-00:52:55 Jacobs: swore her addr was... under oath
-
-00:53:34 Sidell: not a court hearing...this is an administrative hearing
-
-00:53:56 Knutson: I figured the party felt they did not need to respond (in writing) since everything was so obvious
-
-00:53:18 Jacobs: they **overlap**... a big mish maash
-
-00:53:34 Spindell: not a court hearing...
-
-00:54:00 Spindell: I went through every single page (of the nom papers)
-
-00:55:26 Mérida: madam chair may -- (Jacobs: no you may not)
-
-00:55:40 Spindell: this is not a court trial, right?... it is an administrative hearing
-
-00:56:34 Jacobs: overlapping signatures...even in an administrative hearing ...
-
-00:56:52 Spindell: given your are right...let's hear it anyway...would like to hear what the facts are
-
-00:57:10 Spindell: tiny technicality
-
-00:57:26 Jacobs: pls leave your...concerns of racism...
-
-00:57:36 Jacobs: pls sir keep that at the (door?)
-
-00:57:52 Jacobs: I am not going to solicity testimony of hearsay
-
-00:58:00 Jacobs: elected not to follow the very clear rules of this commission... we have a manual that says what they need to do
-
-00:59:17 Judnic: ...turned out differntly jad we had a (written/verified) response...would have weighed both sides
-
-00:59:45 Judnic: (Mandell) showed ther were issues with the address
-
-00:59:52 ...clear and convincing evidence
-
-01:00:13 papers dated Jul 28 or Jul 29 such that on any one of these dates some papers had the TV address and some the Royal address
-
-01:00:31 IMPORTANT: was the original TV address correct in the first place?
-
-01:00:39 burden shifting...raised enough
-
-01:00:09 Thompson: 2016 recount
-
-01:01:29 inference w/o affidavit
-
-01:01:39 our decision cost Sulivan a spot on the ballot ( County Exec/earlier in 2020? )
-
-01:01:50 missing a key piece
-
-01:02:23 address correct at start...correct at end... do not know move date
-
-01:03:52 a sworn statement that her addr is the second addr
-
-01:04:04 we have no idea if the other addr is true...could have been typo...that everyone signed for weeks
-
-01:04:38 Jacobs: oh no no no no sorry about that
-
-01:05:07 have seen a lot of the Green Party lawyers...
-
-01:05:11 not an unsophisticated
-
-01:05:40 Mérida: what presumptions are you making
-
-01:05:57 typo then...why would they only corrected some of them
-
-01:06:22 Jacobs: it's just not before us, we just don't know
-
-01:06:35 Jacobs: Mérida your time to present has passed
-
-01:06:40 Spindell: ...tell the press when she moved
-
-01:07:54 (/shouting!/ Jacobs could have said sooner that Thompson dropped out of zoom)
-
-01:10:33 (Thompson back on zoom)
-
-01:12:00 tell press date of move and confirm 1st date
- 
-01:12:47 Glancy: incredibility incredibility interesting
-
-01:14:16 Thompson: this is for the president of the United States...not our job to follow up (to the campaign)...you should get it right
-
-01:14:38 Thompson: follow staff recommendation
-
-01:15:03 we kept someone from running for county exec, we have to be consistent
-
-01:15:19 I move the staff's recommendations
-
-01:16:07 IMPORTANT - Knutson: I fear we'll be overturned on this one
-
-01:16:45 Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
-
-01:16:45 Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
-
-01:17:08 shocked...if you miss a deadline..though...oral argument
-
-01:17:40 you as chair have ruled in a pretty heavy handed manner... no facts...to be introduced
-
-01:17:51 ...the vote to over rule you (to over rule Madam chair Jacobs)
-
-01:18:01 presumption of validity regardless of the lack of a written response...filed a lot of sigs
-
-01:18:19 hate for us to get overturned
-
-01:18:26 putting heads in sand for what the facts of the case are
-
-01:18:41 distinct impression they though it was an "either or" (as to written or oral)
-
-01:19:17 she started at that addr when the circulation started
-
-01:20:22 vote on motion 2 & 3 passes 6:0
-
-01:21:08 move on motion 1 based on lack of facts and recommendation by staff
-(Bostelmann, Knudson, Spindell): no. (Glancey, Jacobs, Thomsen): yes.
-
-01:23:34 Spindell: very very well done documents...all the info was filled in...100 times better than last... very carefully done... no question that have at least 300 valid sigs
-
-01:24:18 3737 valid sigs
-
-01:24:37 3737 - 57 = 3680 valid sigs 
-
-01:26:10 motion to allow intro into evidence of the date of move...
-
-01:26:38 Jacobs responds to date of move motion
-TODO...
-#_hide}
 
 [00:01:05](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=65) Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
     12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)
@@ -23354,6 +23080,17 @@
 
 [01:26:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5198) Jacobs responds to date of move motion
 
+01:26:40 challenger...no notice of this brand new fact...only hearsay
+
+01:27:03 obligation to file verified response was on the candidate
+
+01:27:21 not fair to sandbag the challengers
+
+01:27:45 2016...never allowed introduction of ancillary evidence ( in nom paper hearings )... always required verified response
+
+01:28:01 concerned...suddenly change..we never have before...it's unfair, unduly prejudicial
+
+01:30:47 answer...extremely obvious
 
 TODO... help with addition timestamps is welcome!
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1172 -r1.1173
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 22:59:57 1.1172
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 23:34:09 1.1173
@@ -23353,18 +23353,19 @@
 [01:26:10](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5170) motion to allow intro into evidence of the date of move...
 
 [01:26:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5198) Jacobs responds to date of move motion
-TODO...
+
+
+TODO... help with addition timestamps is welcome!
 
 
 ## Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
 
-#_hide {
+TODO: add timestamps
 
 Voted yes 6:0 that 1789 valid signatures were filed with the 
-315 Royal St address for Angela Walker, and 1834 signatures on
-petition forms with the earlier TV Road address for Angela Walker.
+315 Royal St address for Angela Walker, and deadlocked 3:3: on the 1834 signatures on
+nom forms with the earlier TV Road address.
 
-#_hide }
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1171 -r1.1172
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 22:58:12 1.1171
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 22:59:57 1.1172
@@ -23097,13 +23097,13 @@
 
 [00:07:17](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=437) Mérida -- calendar days vs business days. Received notice of challenge at 7:37pm Milwaukee time Fri Aug 7 via email.
 
-[08:33:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=30780) If time limit is less than 10 days then weekend days are included, not skipped.
+[00:08:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=30780) If time limit is less than 10 days then weekend days are included, not skipped.
 
-[08:49:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=31740) Mérida: Deadline should have run out on Tuesday Aug 11...
+[00:08:49](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=31740) Mérida: Deadline should have run out on Tuesday Aug 11...
 
-[09:44:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=35040) Mérida: We were told we could not file anything on Tuesday.
+[00:09:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=35040) Mérida: We were told we could not file anything on Tuesday.
 
-[09:57:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=35820) Mandell's 10 minutes.
+[00:09:57](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=35820) Mandell's 10 minutes.
 
 [00:17:26](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1046) Mérida responds.
 
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diff -w -u -r1.1170 -r1.1171
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 22:38:03 1.1170
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 22:58:12 1.1171
@@ -22807,6 +22807,7 @@
 
 ### [video timestamps](#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times)
 
+#_hide{
 00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
     12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)
 
@@ -23079,6 +23080,280 @@
 
 01:26:38 Jacobs responds to date of move motion
 TODO...
+#_hide}
+
+[00:01:05](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=65) Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
+    12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)
+
+[00:04:22](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=262) No new factual information will be allowed to be added to record by Green Party at this hearing since they submitted nothing in writing in advance.
+
+[00:04:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=292) no factual assertions not in the record before us allowed
+
+[00:04:56](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=296) OK for Green Party to "argue the law".
+
+[00:05:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=333) Green Party forfeited right to deny any assertions by the challenger.
+
+[00:06:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=378) "...that's the only fair way to do it"
+
+[00:07:17](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=437) Mérida -- calendar days vs business days. Received notice of challenge at 7:37pm Milwaukee time Fri Aug 7 via email.
+
+[08:33:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=30780) If time limit is less than 10 days then weekend days are included, not skipped.
+
+[08:49:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=31740) Mérida: Deadline should have run out on Tuesday Aug 11...
+
+[09:44:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=35040) Mérida: We were told we could not file anything on Tuesday.
+
+[09:57:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=35820) Mandell's 10 minutes.
+
+[00:17:26](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1046) Mérida responds.
+
+[00:21:55](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1315) Mandell responds.
+
+[00:23:05](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1385) will of electors argument
+
+[00:23:29](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1409) paragraph 1 on page 29 of Feb 29 2020 WEC meeting materials concerning the motion covering "will of electors" 
+
+[00:23:32](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1412) Sec 5.01 subdiv 1 does not apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions; "will of electors" not a factor
+
+[00:24:20](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1460) start of questions for Mérida or Mandell
+
+[00:24:25](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1465) Question from Spindell to staff person Megan
+
+[00:25:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1500) Megan: I believe we included all the relevant emails between the Green Party and us as part of the staff memo
+
+[00:25:16](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1516) Judnic on emails
+
+[00:25:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1518) Mr Williams (election specialist Robert Williams?) not aware of conversation w/Mérida
+
+[00:27:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1620) Sidell speculates Walker moved Jul 30 or 31
+
+[00:27:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1650) Jacobs: move date -- that information is not before this commission
+
+[00:28:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1710) Sidell: nom papers... very carefully done...checked out ( by Green Party )
+
+[00:29:20](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1760) facts should have been ... by filing a verified response
+
+[00:29:51](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1791) Democratic part of WI
+
+[00:30:54](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1854) Arnsten does not work for Democratic party ... is a retied lawyer at Foley...
+
+[00:31:24](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1884) Mereida not allowed to answer Spindell re cur addr
+
+[00:32:04](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1924) Knutson asks Judnic about time period for affidavits on nom paper (header) corrections
+
+[00:32:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1953) Judnic re correcting headers -- an affidavit may be done by circulator or signer
+
+[00:33:16](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=1996) not later than 3 calendar days after Aug 4 due 430pm date
+
+[00:34:12](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2052) Judnic: complaint received on Fri Aug 7 just before 430pm
+
+[00:34:24](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2064) confirmation... had been received
+
+[00:34:50](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2090) emailed Green Party (Mérida) within an hour or two of receiving the complaint
+
+[00:35:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2133) explains deadline...how to respond...instructions
+
+[00:35:54](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2154) Monday at 430pm was deadline to respond
+
+[00:36:08](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2168) phone call Monday afternoon with Dave S
+
+[00:36:24](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2184) Mérida and Judnic phone call -- asked about response options
+
+[00:36:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2199) most candidates (do)... not going to give legal advice
+
+[00:37:24](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2244) Knutson: 2 of 3 days were weekend days
+
+[00:37:50](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2270) IMPORTANT: failure to file is all but fatal (38:40)
+
+[00:38:19](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2299) Mérida: this was presented as an option
+
+[00:39:06](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2346) Mérida: emails on record from staff are not complete
+
+[00:39:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2378) Mandell: Democratic party of WI has nothing to do with the complaint
+
+[00:39:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2378) Mandell: I wrote the complaint ( for Arnsten )
+
+[00:39:50](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2390) Mérida: chg of address...cand addr not necessary for Fed cand...
+
+[00:40:10](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2410) Mérida: have to operate in way ...instructed
+
+[00:40:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2418) Mérida: reason addr is on a nom paper
+
+[00:41:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2460) Mérida: splitting of hairs
+
+[00:41:27](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2487) ??? Mérida: candidates table was submitted [ I think she said "table". ]
+
+[00:41:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2504) to try to curtail democratic voice of citizens
+
+[00:42:19](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2539) Clancy: what is procedure for a candidate chg of residence during signing period
+
+[00:42:54](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2574) Judnic answers
+
+[00:43:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2620) Judnic: if a person would move...
+
+[00:43:47](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2627) Judnic: example in June 2020
+
+[00:44:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2670) Judnic: IMPORTANT/Judic: the main issue...we had no idea...accuracy of the address on the header unknowable
+
+[00:45:20](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2720) Judnic: no statement in the record as to what happened ... had there been an affidavit about the move
+
+[00:45:50](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2750) Mérida/IMPORTANT: we did as instructed...filed declaration of candidacy w/new addr ( doc shown on screen earlier/when?  )
+
+[00:46:59](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2819) TODO/FIXME
+
+[00:47:15](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2835) IMPORTANT - deadline for declaration of candidacy was Tue Aug 4 430pm
+
+[00:47:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2853) IMPORTANT - Knutson: no evidence the challenged 1800+ sigs have an incorrect header addr for Walker
+
+[00:48:47](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2927) nom papers on same date with conflicting addresses for Walker
+
+[00:49:20](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2960) Judnic: the challenge is...only one declaration of candidacy (that one had) no indication that it was an amendment
+
+[00:49:30](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2970) Jacobs: a single affidavit announcing the move would have solved...
+
+[00:49:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2980) Jacobs: inexplicably
+
+[00:49:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=2984) REVIEW - Jacobs: we have a sworn statement ... swears (00:49:58)
+
+[00:50:05](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3005) Jacobs: solvable by an affidavit ... so you are assuming first addr was valid (50:15)
+
+[00:50:28](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3028) Jacobs: we have no idea what ... her addr..
+
+[00:50:44](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3044) Knutson: clearly...issue with her moving (per staff)
+
+[00:51:13](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3073) Knutson: no evidence that 1864 sigs... that there was any problem ...
+
+[00:51:56](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3116) Jacobs: we don't know if that was her address ... inexplicably
+
+[00:52:20](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3140) Jacobs: given an affidavit-stated move date...challenger could break the 1864 sigs into valid and invalid sets
+
+[00:52:53](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3173) Jacobs: we do not know what addr she was at in the beginning
+
+[00:52:55](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3175) Jacobs: swore her addr was... under oath
+
+[00:53:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3214) Sidell: not a court hearing...this is an administrative hearing
+
+[00:53:56](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3236) Knutson: I figured the party felt they did not need to respond (in writing) since everything was so obvious
+
+[00:53:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3198) Jacobs: they **overlap**... a big mish maash
+
+[00:53:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3214) Spindell: not a court hearing...
+
+[00:54:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3240) Spindell: I went through every single page (of the nom papers)
+
+[00:55:26](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3326) Mérida: madam chair may -- (Jacobs: no you may not)
+
+[00:55:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3340) Spindell: this is not a court trial, right?... it is an administrative hearing
+
+[00:56:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3394) Jacobs: overlapping signatures...even in an administrative hearing ...
+
+[00:56:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3412) Spindell: given your are right...let's hear it anyway...would like to hear what the facts are
+
+[00:57:10](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3430) Spindell: tiny technicality
+
+[00:57:26](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3446) Jacobs: pls leave your...concerns of racism...
+
+[00:57:36](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3456) Jacobs: pls sir keep that at the (door?)
+
+[00:57:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3472) Jacobs: I am not going to solicity testimony of hearsay
+
+[00:58:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3480) Jacobs: elected not to follow the very clear rules of this commission... we have a manual that says what they need to do
+
+[00:59:17](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3557) Judnic: ...turned out differntly jad we had a (written/verified) response...would have weighed both sides
+
+[00:59:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3585) Judnic: (Mandell) showed ther were issues with the address
+
+[00:59:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3592) ...clear and convincing evidence
+
+[01:00:13](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3613) papers dated Jul 28 or Jul 29 such that on any one of these dates some papers had the TV address and some the Royal address
+
+[01:00:31](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3631) IMPORTANT: was the original TV address correct in the first place?
+
+[01:00:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3639) burden shifting...raised enough
+
+[01:00:09](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3609) Thompson: 2016 recount
+
+[01:01:29](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3689) inference w/o affidavit
+
+[01:01:39](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3699) our decision cost Sulivan a spot on the ballot ( County Exec/earlier in 2020? )
+
+[01:01:50](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3710) missing a key piece
+
+[01:02:23](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3743) address correct at start...correct at end... do not know move date
+
+[01:03:52](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3832) a sworn statement that her addr is the second addr
+
+[01:04:04](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3844) we have no idea if the other addr is true...could have been typo...that everyone signed for weeks
+
+[01:04:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3878) Jacobs: oh no no no no sorry about that
+
+[01:05:07](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3907) have seen a lot of the Green Party lawyers...
+
+[01:05:11](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3911) not an unsophisticated
+
+[01:05:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3940) Mérida: what presumptions are you making
+
+[01:05:57](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3957) typo then...why would they only corrected some of them
+
+[01:06:22](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3982) Jacobs: it's just not before us, we just don't know
+
+[01:06:35](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=3995) Jacobs: Mérida your time to present has passed
+
+[01:06:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4000) Spindell: ...tell the press when she moved
+
+[01:07:54](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4074) (/shouting!/ Jacobs could have said sooner that Thompson dropped out of zoom)
+
+[01:10:33](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4233) (Thompson back on zoom)
+
+[01:12:00](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4320) tell press date of move and confirm 1st date
+ 
+[01:12:47](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4367) Glancy: incredibility incredibility interesting
+
+[01:14:16](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4456) Thompson: this is for the president of the United States...not our job to follow up (to the campaign)...you should get it right
+
+[01:14:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4478) Thompson: follow staff recommendation
+
+[01:15:03](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4503) we kept someone from running for county exec, we have to be consistent
+
+[01:15:19](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4519) I move the staff's recommendations
+
+[01:16:07](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4567) IMPORTANT - Knutson: I fear we'll be overturned on this one
+
+[01:16:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4605) Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
+
+[01:16:45](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4605) Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
+
+[01:17:08](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4628) shocked...if you miss a deadline..though...oral argument
+
+[01:17:40](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4660) you as chair have ruled in a pretty heavy handed manner... no facts...to be introduced
+
+[01:17:51](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4671) ...the vote to over rule you (to over rule Madam chair Jacobs)
+
+[01:18:01](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4681) presumption of validity regardless of the lack of a written response...filed a lot of sigs
+
+[01:18:19](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4699) hate for us to get overturned
+
+[01:18:26](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4706) putting heads in sand for what the facts of the case are
+
+[01:18:41](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4721) distinct impression they though it was an "either or" (as to written or oral)
+
+[01:19:17](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4757) she started at that addr when the circulation started
+
+[01:20:22](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4822) vote on motion 2 & 3 passes 6:0
+
+[01:21:08](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=4868) move on motion 1 based on lack of facts and recommendation by staff
+(Bostelmann, Knudson, Spindell): no. (Glancey, Jacobs, Thomsen): yes.
+
+[01:23:34](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5014) Spindell: very very well done documents...all the info was filled in...100 times better than last... very carefully done... no question that have at least 300 valid sigs
+
+[01:24:18](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5058) 3737 valid sigs
+
+[01:24:37](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5077) 3737 - 57 = 3680 valid sigs 
+
+[01:26:10](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5170) motion to allow intro into evidence of the date of move...
+
+[01:26:38](https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=5198) Jacobs responds to date of move motion
+TODO...
 
 
 ## Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1169 -r1.1170
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 22:05:24 1.1169
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 22:38:03 1.1170
@@ -22758,6 +22758,7 @@
 
 ### WEC commissioners
 
+<https://elections.wi.gov/about/members>
 
 
 ## Main video of hearing | 2+ hours: <https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=14>
@@ -22770,7 +22771,7 @@
  9 10 11 12 13 14 15

-mtg agenda / materials| pdf +Aug 20 hearing mtg agenda / materials| pdf

https://elections.wi.gov/candidates/nomination-papers

=================================================================== diff -w -u -r1.1168 -r1.1169 — site.body.markdown 2020/08/24 21:21:15 1.1168 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/08/24 22:05:24 1.1169 @@ -22754,6 +22754,12 @@

https://howiehawkins.us/release-wisconsin-democrats-knock-hawkins-walker-off-ballot-campaign-will-go-to-court/

+## basics about hearing + +### WEC commissioners + + + ## Main video of hearing | 2+ hours: https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=14

@@ -23041,20 +23047,36 @@

01:16:45 Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court

-01:17:08 shocked...if you miss a deadline..tough...oral argument
+01:17:08 shocked...if you miss a deadline..though...oral argument

01:17:40 you as chair have ruled in a pretty heavy handed manner... no facts...to be introduced

-01:17:51 ...the vote to over rule you
+01:17:51 ...the vote to over rule you (to over rule Madam chair Jacobs)
+
+01:18:01 presumption of validity regardless of the lack of a written response...filed a lot of sigs
+
+01:18:19 hate for us to get overturned
+
+01:18:26 putting heads in sand for what the facts of the case are
+
+01:18:41 distinct impression they though it was an "either or" (as to written or oral)
+
+01:19:17 she started at that addr when the circulation started
+
+01:20:22 vote on motion 2 & 3 passes 6:0
+
+01:21:08 move on motion 1 based on lack of facts and recommendation by staff
+(Bostelmann, Knudson, Spindell): no. (Glancey, Jacobs, Thomsen): yes.

-00:18:01 presumption of validity regardless of the lack of a written response...filed a lot of sigs
+01:23:34 Spindell: very very well done documents...all the info was filled in...100 times better than last... very carefully done... no question that have at least 300 valid sigs

-00:18:19 hate for us to get overturned
+01:24:18 3737 valid sigs

-00:18:26 putting heads in sand for what the facts of the case are
+01:24:37 3737 - 57 = 3680 valid sigs 

-00:
+01:26:10 motion to allow intro into evidence of the date of move...

+01:26:38 Jacobs responds to date of move motion
TODO...


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diff -w -u -r1.1167 -r1.1168
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 21:13:03 1.1167
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 21:21:15 1.1168
@@ -23049,7 +23049,11 @@

00:18:01 presumption of validity regardless of the lack of a written response...filed a lot of sigs

-00:18:19 putting heads in sand for what the facts of the case are
+00:18:19 hate for us to get overturned
+
+00:18:26 putting heads in sand for what the facts of the case are
+
+00:

TODO...

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1166 -r1.1167
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 12:38:05 1.1166
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 21:13:03 1.1167
@@ -23003,8 +23003,6 @@

01:04:04 we have no idea if the other addr is true...could have been typo...that everyone signed for weeks

-
-
01:04:38 Jacobs: oh no no no no sorry about that

01:05:07 have seen a lot of the Green Party lawyers...
@@ -23041,8 +23039,17 @@

01:16:45 Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court

+01:16:45 Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
+
+01:17:08 shocked...if you miss a deadline..tough...oral argument
+
+01:17:40 you as chair have ruled in a pretty heavy handed manner... no facts...to be introduced
+
+01:17:51 ...the vote to over rule you

+00:18:01 presumption of validity regardless of the lack of a written response...filed a lot of sigs

+00:18:19 putting heads in sand for what the facts of the case are

TODO...

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1165 -r1.1166
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 01:08:44 1.1165
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 12:38:05 1.1166
@@ -23025,7 +23025,23 @@

01:10:33 (Thompson back on zoom)

-01:01:39 our decision cost Sulivan a spot on the ballot ( County Exec/earlier in 2020? )
+01:12:00 tell press date of move and confirm 1st date
+ 
+01:12:47 Glancy: incredibility incredibility interesting
+
+01:14:16 Thompson: this is for the president of the United States...not our job to follow up (to the campaign)...you should get it right
+
+01:14:38 Thompson: follow staff recommendation
+
+01:15:03 we kept someone from running for county exec, we have to be consistent
+
+01:15:19 I move the staff's recommendations
+
+01:16:07 IMPORTANT - Knutson: I fear we'll be overturned on this one
+
+01:16:45 Knutson: file a complaint (to WEC)... might go to court
+
+
 

TODO...
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1164 -r1.1165
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 00:28:24 1.1164
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 01:08:44 1.1165
@@ -23005,6 +23005,28 @@


 
+01:04:38 Jacobs: oh no no no no sorry about that
+
+01:05:07 have seen a lot of the Green Party lawyers...
+
+01:05:11 not an unsophisticated
+
+01:05:40 Mérida: what presumptions are you making
+
+01:05:57 typo then...why would they only corrected some of them
+
+01:06:22 Jacobs: it's just not before us, we just don't know
+
+01:06:35 Jacobs: Mérida your time to present has passed
+
+01:06:40 Spindell: ...tell the press when she moved
+
+01:07:54 (/shouting!/ Jacobs could have said sooner that Thompson dropped out of zoom)
+
+01:10:33 (Thompson back on zoom)
+
+01:01:39 our decision cost Sulivan a spot on the ballot ( County Exec/earlier in 2020? )
+ 

TODO...

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diff -w -u -r1.1163 -r1.1164
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 00:18:41 1.1163
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 00:28:24 1.1164
@@ -22782,6 +22782,17 @@
> by local filing officers related to nomination papers and other election
> petitions.

+[affadavit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidavit)
+
+> written statement of fact voluntarily made by an affiant or deponent under
+> an oath or affirmation which is administered by a person who is authorized
+> to do so by law. Such a statement is witnessed as to the authenticity of
+> the affiant's signature by a taker of oaths, such as a notary public or
+> commissioner of oaths. An affidavit is a type of verified statement or
+> showing, or in other words, it contains a verification, which means that it
+> is made under oath or penalty of perjury, and this serves as evidence for
+> its veracity and is required in court proceedings.
+
Jacobs' arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests (00:53:34) to
have been treated more like a court trial.

@@ -22980,7 +22991,19 @@

01:00:09 Thompson: 2016 recount

-01:01:29 inference w/o affadavit
+01:01:29 inference w/o affidavit
+
+01:01:39 our decision cost Sulivan a spot on the ballot ( County Exec/earlier in 2020? )
+
+01:01:50 missing a key piece
+
+01:02:23 address correct at start...correct at end... do not know move date
+
+01:03:52 a sworn statement that her addr is the second addr
+
+01:04:04 we have no idea if the other addr is true...could have been typo...that everyone signed for weeks
+
+


TODO...
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1162 -r1.1163
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/23 19:50:17 1.1162
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/24 00:18:41 1.1163
@@ -22942,6 +22942,47 @@

00:53:56 Knutson: I figured the party felt they did not need to respond (in writing) since everything was so obvious

+00:53:18 Jacobs: they **overlap**... a big mish maash
+
+00:53:34 Spindell: not a court hearing...
+
+00:54:00 Spindell: I went through every single page (of the nom papers)
+
+00:55:26 Mérida: madam chair may -- (Jacobs: no you may not)
+
+00:55:40 Spindell: this is not a court trial, right?... it is an administrative hearing
+
+00:56:34 Jacobs: overlapping signatures...even in an administrative hearing ...
+
+00:56:52 Spindell: given your are right...let's hear it anyway...would like to hear what the facts are
+
+00:57:10 Spindell: tiny technicality
+
+00:57:26 Jacobs: pls leave your...concerns of racism...
+
+00:57:36 Jacobs: pls sir keep that at the (door?)
+
+00:57:52 Jacobs: I am not going to solicity testimony of hearsay
+
+00:58:00 Jacobs: elected not to follow the very clear rules of this commission... we have a manual that says what they need to do
+
+00:59:17 Judnic: ...turned out differntly jad we had a (written/verified) response...would have weighed both sides
+
+00:59:45 Judnic: (Mandell) showed ther were issues with the address
+
+00:59:52 ...clear and convincing evidence
+
+01:00:13 papers dated Jul 28 or Jul 29 such that on any one of these dates some papers had the TV address and some the Royal address
+
+01:00:31 IMPORTANT: was the original TV address correct in the first place?
+
+01:00:39 burden shifting...raised enough
+
+01:00:09 Thompson: 2016 recount
+
+01:01:29 inference w/o affadavit
+
+
TODO...


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diff -w -u -r1.1161 -r1.1162
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/23 12:38:06 1.1161
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/23 19:50:17 1.1162
@@ -22764,6 +22764,8 @@
 9 10 11 12 13 14 15

+mtg agenda / materials| pdf + https://elections.wi.gov/candidates/nomination-papers

https://elections.wi.gov/publications/video/NomPaperReviewGuidance @@ -22783,6 +22785,10 @@ Jacobs’ arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests (00:53:34) to have been treated more like a court trial.

+###### {#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#qpfnl_H20_Ballot_Chall_v2_times + +### video timestamps + 00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)

@@ -22814,11 +22820,8 @@

00:23:29 paragraph 1 on page 29 of Feb 29 2020 WEC meeting materials concerning the motion covering “will of electors”

+https://howiehawkins.us/release-wisconsin-democrats-knock-hawkins-walker-off-ballot-campaign-will-go-to-court/ + ## Main video of hearing | 2+ hours: https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=14

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diff -w -u -r1.1159 -r1.1160
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 22:38:03 1.1159
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 23:32:53 1.1160
@@ -22778,7 +22778,7 @@
> by local filing officers related to nomination papers and other election
> petitions.

-Jacobs arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests (00:53:34) to
+Jacobs' arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests (00:53:34) to
have been treated more like a court trial.

00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
@@ -22825,7 +22825,7 @@

00:25:16 Judnic on emails

-00:25:18 Mr Williams not aware of conversation w/Mérida
+00:25:18 Mr Williams (election specialist Robert Williams?) not aware of conversation w/Mérida

00:27:00 Sidell speculates Walker moved Jul 30 or 31

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diff -w -u -r1.1158 -r1.1159
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 21:58:51 1.1158
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 22:38:03 1.1159
@@ -22781,13 +22781,11 @@
Jacobs arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests (00:53:34) to
have been treated more like a court trial.

-
00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
    12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)

00:04:22 No new factual information will be allowed to be added to record by Green Party at this hearing since they submitted nothing in writing in advance.

-
00:04:52 no factual assertions not in the record before us allowed

00:04:56 OK for Green Party to "argue the law".
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diff -w -u -r1.1157 -r1.1158
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 21:54:17 1.1157
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 21:58:51 1.1158
@@ -22778,7 +22778,7 @@
> by local filing officers related to nomination papers and other election
> petitions.

-Jacobs arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests to
+Jacobs arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests (00:53:34) to
have been treated more like a court trial.


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diff -w -u -r1.1156 -r1.1157
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 21:48:27 1.1156
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 21:54:17 1.1157
@@ -22778,7 +22778,7 @@
> by local filing officers related to nomination papers and other election
> petitions.

-Jacobs arguments seem vulnerable. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests to
+Jacobs arguments seem vulnerable, and repetitive. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests to
have been treated more like a court trial.


@@ -22933,6 +22933,12 @@

00:52:53 Jacobs: we do not know what addr she was at in the beginning

+00:52:55 Jacobs: swore her addr was... under oath
+
+00:53:34 Sidell: not a court hearing...this is an administrative hearing
+
+00:53:56 Knutson: I figured the party felt they did not need to respond (in writing) since everything was so obvious
+
TODO...


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diff -w -u -r1.1155 -r1.1156
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 21:37:44 1.1155
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 21:48:27 1.1156
@@ -22778,7 +22778,7 @@
> by local filing officers related to nomination papers and other election
> petitions.

-Jacobs rhetoric seems vulnerable. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests to
+Jacobs arguments seem vulnerable. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests to
have been treated more like a court trial.


@@ -22921,7 +22921,17 @@

00:50:05 Jacobs: solvable by an affidavit ... so you are assuming first addr was valid (50:15)

-00:50:28
+00:50:28 Jacobs: we have no idea what ... her addr..
+
+00:50:44 Knutson: clearly...issue with her moving (per staff)
+
+00:51:13 Knutson: no evidence that 1864 sigs... that there was any problem ...
+
+00:51:56 Jacobs: we don't know if that was her address ... inexplicably
+
+00:52:20 Jacobs: given an affidavit-stated move date...challenger could break the 1864 sigs into valid and invalid sets
+
+00:52:53 Jacobs: we do not know what addr she was at in the beginning

TODO...

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diff -w -u -r1.1154 -r1.1155
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 20:19:10 1.1154
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 21:37:44 1.1155
@@ -22778,6 +22778,10 @@
> by local filing officers related to nomination papers and other election
> petitions.

+Jacobs rhetoric seems vulnerable. This administrative hearing seems as Sidell suggests to
+have been treated more like a court trial.
+
+
00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
    12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)

@@ -22899,13 +22903,25 @@

00:45:50 Mérida/IMPORTANT: we did as instructed...filed declaration of candidacy w/new addr ( doc shown on screen earlier/when?  )

+00:46:59 TODO/FIXME
+
00:47:15 IMPORTANT - deadline for declaration of candidacy was Tue Aug 4 430pm

+00:47:33 IMPORTANT - Knutson: no evidence the challenged 1800+ sigs have an incorrect header addr for Walker
+
00:48:47 nom papers on same date with conflicting addresses for Walker

-00:49:20 the challenge is...only one declaration of candidacy (that one had) no indication that it was an amendment
+00:49:20 Judnic: the challenge is...only one declaration of candidacy (that one had) no indication that it was an amendment
+
+00:49:30 Jacobs: a single affidavit announcing the move would have solved...
+
+00:49:40 Jacobs: inexplicably
+
+00:49:44 REVIEW - Jacobs: we have a sworn statement ... swears (00:49:58)
+
+00:50:05 Jacobs: solvable by an affidavit ... so you are assuming first addr was valid (50:15)

-00:49:30 a single affidavit announcing the move would have solved...
+00:50:28

TODO...

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diff -w -u -r1.1153 -r1.1154
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 18:38:03 1.1153
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 20:19:10 1.1154
@@ -22899,6 +22899,13 @@

00:45:50 Mérida/IMPORTANT: we did as instructed...filed declaration of candidacy w/new addr ( doc shown on screen earlier/when?  )

+00:47:15 IMPORTANT - deadline for declaration of candidacy was Tue Aug 4 430pm
+
+00:48:47 nom papers on same date with conflicting addresses for Walker
+
+00:49:20 the challenge is...only one declaration of candidacy (that one had) no indication that it was an amendment
+
+00:49:30 a single affidavit announcing the move would have solved...

TODO...

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diff -w -u -r1.1152 -r1.1153
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 18:14:44 1.1152
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 18:38:03 1.1153
@@ -22897,7 +22897,7 @@

00:45:20 Judnic: no statement in the record as to what happened ... had there been an affidavit about the move

-00:45:50 Mérida: we did as instructed...filed declaration of candidacy w/new addr ( doc shown on screen earlier/when?  )
+00:45:50 Mérida/IMPORTANT: we did as instructed...filed declaration of candidacy w/new addr ( doc shown on screen earlier/when?  )


TODO...
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diff -w -u -r1.1151 -r1.1152
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 18:06:31 1.1151
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 18:14:44 1.1152
@@ -22895,8 +22895,9 @@

00:44:30 Judnic: IMPORTANT/Judic: the main issue...we had no idea...accuracy of the address on the header unknowable

-00:45:20 Judnic: no statement in the record as to what happened
+00:45:20 Judnic: no statement in the record as to what happened ... had there been an affidavit about the move

+00:45:50 Mérida: we did as instructed...filed declaration of candidacy w/new addr ( doc shown on screen earlier/when?  )


TODO...
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diff -w -u -r1.1150 -r1.1151
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 17:59:44 1.1150
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 18:06:31 1.1151
@@ -22772,7 +22772,7 @@

> The “will of the electors” language in Wis. Stat. § 5.01(1) does not
> apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions.  Commission
-> staff will not consider the “will of the electors” in evaluating
+> **staff will not consider the “will of the electors”** in evaluating
> nomination papers and election petitions and the Commission will not take
> it into account when ruling on challenges or appeals of decisions issued
> by local filing officers related to nomination papers and other election
@@ -22887,13 +22887,15 @@

00:42:19 Clancy: what is procedure for a candidate chg of residence during signing period

-00:42:54 Judic answers
+00:42:54 Judnic answers

-00:43:40 if a person would move...
+00:43:40 Judnic: if a person would move...

-00:43:47 example in June 2020
+00:43:47 Judnic: example in June 2020

-00:44:30 IMPORTANT/Judic: the main issue...we had no idea...accuracy of the address on the header unknowable
+00:44:30 Judnic: IMPORTANT/Judic: the main issue...we had no idea...accuracy of the address on the header unknowable
+
+00:45:20 Judnic: no statement in the record as to what happened



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diff -w -u -r1.1149 -r1.1150
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 17:40:52 1.1149
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 17:59:44 1.1150
@@ -22835,6 +22835,7 @@

00:29:51 Democratic part of WI

+00:30:54 Arnsten does not work for Democratic party ... is a retied lawyer at Foley...

00:31:24 Mereida not allowed to answer Spindell re cur addr

@@ -22858,13 +22859,42 @@

00:36:24 Mérida and Judnic phone call -- asked about response options

-00:36:39 most candidates (do)...
+00:36:39 most candidates (do)... not going to give legal advice
+
+00:37:24 Knutson: 2 of 3 days were weekend days
+
+00:37:50 IMPORTANT: failure to file is all but fatal (38:40)
+
+00:38:19 Mérida: this was presented as an option
+
+00:39:06 Mérida: emails on record from staff are not complete

00:39:38 Mandell: Democratic party of WI has nothing to do with the complaint

00:39:38 Mandell: I wrote the complaint ( for Arnsten )

-00:30:54 Arnsten does not work for Democratic party ... is a retied lawyer at Foley...
+00:39:50 Mérida: chg of address...cand addr not necessary for Fed cand...
+
+00:40:10 Mérida: have to operate in way ...instructed
+
+00:40:18 Mérida: reason addr is on a nom paper
+
+00:41:00 Mérida: splitting of hairs
+
+00:41:27 ??? Mérida: candidates table was submitted [ I think she said "table". ]
+
+00:41:44 to try to curtail democratic voice of citizens
+
+00:42:19 Clancy: what is procedure for a candidate chg of residence during signing period
+
+00:42:54 Judic answers
+
+00:43:40 if a person would move...
+
+00:43:47 example in June 2020
+
+00:44:30 IMPORTANT/Judic: the main issue...we had no idea...accuracy of the address on the header unknowable
+


TODO...
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diff -w -u -r1.1148 -r1.1149
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 17:31:08 1.1148
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 17:40:52 1.1149
@@ -22821,6 +22821,16 @@

00:25:00 Megan: I believe we included all the relevant emails between the Green Party and us as part of the staff memo

+00:25:16 Judnic on emails
+
+00:25:18 Mr Williams not aware of conversation w/Mérida
+
+00:27:00 Sidell speculates Walker moved Jul 30 or 31
+
+00:27:30 Jacobs: move date -- that information is not before this commission
+
+00:28:30 Sidell: nom papers... very carefully done...checked out ( by Green Party )
+
00:29:20 facts should have been ... by filing a verified response

00:29:51 Democratic part of WI
@@ -22828,13 +22838,13 @@

00:31:24 Mereida not allowed to answer Spindell re cur addr

-00:32:04 Knutson asks Nate about time period for affidavits on nom paper (header) corrections
+00:32:04 Knutson asks Judnic about time period for affidavits on nom paper (header) corrections

-00:32:33 Nate re correcting headers -- an affidavit may be done by circulator or signer
+00:32:33 Judnic re correcting headers -- an affidavit may be done by circulator or signer

00:33:16 not later than 3 calendar days after Aug 4 due 430pm date

-00:34:12 Nate: complaint received on Fri Aug 7 just before 430pm
+00:34:12 Judnic: complaint received on Fri Aug 7 just before 430pm

00:34:24 confirmation... had been received

@@ -22846,7 +22856,7 @@

00:36:08 phone call Monday afternoon with Dave S

-00:36:24 Mérida and Nate phone call -- asked about response options
+00:36:24 Mérida and Judnic phone call -- asked about response options

00:36:39 most candidates (do)...

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diff -w -u -r1.1147 -r1.1148
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 17:25:33 1.1147
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 17:31:08 1.1148
@@ -22813,13 +22813,24 @@

00:23:32 Sec 5.01 subdiv 1 does not apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions; "will of electors" not a factor

+
+
+00:24:20 start of questions for Mérida or Mandell
+
00:24:25 Question from Spindell to staff person Megan

+00:25:00 Megan: I believe we included all the relevant emails between the Green Party and us as part of the staff memo
+
+00:29:20 facts should have been ... by filing a verified response
+
+00:29:51 Democratic part of WI
+
+
00:31:24 Mereida not allowed to answer Spindell re cur addr

-00:32:04 Knutson asks Nate about time period for affadavits on nom paper (header) corrections
+00:32:04 Knutson asks Nate about time period for affidavits on nom paper (header) corrections

-00:32:33 Nate re correcting headers -- an affadavit may be done by circulators or signers
+00:32:33 Nate re correcting headers -- an affidavit may be done by circulator or signer

00:33:16 not later than 3 calendar days after Aug 4 due 430pm date

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1146 -r1.1147
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 16:33:38 1.1146
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 17:25:33 1.1147
@@ -22815,6 +22815,12 @@

00:24:25 Question from Spindell to staff person Megan

+00:31:24 Mereida not allowed to answer Spindell re cur addr
+
+00:32:04 Knutson asks Nate about time period for affadavits on nom paper (header) corrections
+
+00:32:33 Nate re correcting headers -- an affadavit may be done by circulators or signers
+
00:33:16 not later than 3 calendar days after Aug 4 due 430pm date

00:34:12 Nate: complaint received on Fri Aug 7 just before 430pm
@@ -22833,6 +22839,13 @@

00:36:39 most candidates (do)...

+00:39:38 Mandell: Democratic party of WI has nothing to do with the complaint
+
+00:39:38 Mandell: I wrote the complaint ( for Arnsten )
+
+00:30:54 Arnsten does not work for Democratic party ... is a retied lawyer at Foley...
+
+
TODO...


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diff -w -u -r1.1145 -r1.1146
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 14:38:04 1.1145
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 16:33:38 1.1146
@@ -22783,6 +22783,9 @@

00:04:22 No new factual information will be allowed to be added to record by Green Party at this hearing since they submitted nothing in writing in advance.

+
+00:04:52 no factual assertions not in the record before us allowed
+
00:04:56 OK for Green Party to "argue the law".

00:05:33 Green Party forfeited right to deny any assertions by the challenger.
@@ -22807,11 +22810,28 @@

00:23:29 paragraph 1 on page 29 of Feb 29 2020 WEC meeting materials concerning the motion covering "will of electors" 

-00:23:05 Sec 5.01 subdiv 1 does not apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions; "will of electors" not a factor
+
+00:23:32 Sec 5.01 subdiv 1 does not apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions; "will of electors" not a factor

00:24:25 Question from Spindell to staff person Megan

+00:33:16 not later than 3 calendar days after Aug 4 due 430pm date
+
+00:34:12 Nate: complaint received on Fri Aug 7 just before 430pm
+
+00:34:24 confirmation... had been received
+
+00:34:50 emailed Green Party (Mérida) within an hour or two of receiving the complaint
+
+00:35:33 explains deadline...how to respond...instructions
+
+00:35:54 Monday at 430pm was deadline to respond
+
+00:36:08 phone call Monday afternoon with Dave S
+
+00:36:24 Mérida and Nate phone call -- asked about response options

+00:36:39 most candidates (do)...

TODO...

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diff -w -u -r1.1144 -r1.1145
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 12:38:05 1.1144
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 14:38:04 1.1145
@@ -13009,7 +13009,9 @@

###### {#emeed_heartmathO073O_heart_rate_variability}

-# [heartmath; heart rate variability](#emeed_heartmathO073O_heart_rate_variability)  :hrv:dm:8irf3y:
+# [heartmath; heart rate variability](#emeed_heartmathO073O_heart_rate_variability)  :=hrv:dm:8irf3y:=heartratevariability:
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_rate_variability>

<https://www.youtube.com/user/HeartMathInstitute>

@@ -22762,8 +22764,20 @@

<https://elections.wi.gov/candidates/nomination-papers>

+<https://elections.wi.gov/publications/video/NomPaperReviewGuidance>
+
<https://elections.wi.gov/sites/elections.wi.gov/files/2019-10/Nomination%20Paper%20Review%20Guide.pdf>

+Nomination Paper Review Standards: <https://elections.wi.gov/node/6737>
+
+> The “will of the electors” language in Wis. Stat. § 5.01(1) does not
+> apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions.  Commission
+> staff will not consider the “will of the electors” in evaluating
+> nomination papers and election petitions and the Commission will not take
+> it into account when ruling on challenges or appeals of decisions issued
+> by local filing officers related to nomination papers and other election
+> petitions.
+
00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
    12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1143 -r1.1144
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 10:53:26 1.1143
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 12:38:05 1.1144
@@ -22764,7 +22764,7 @@

<https://elections.wi.gov/sites/elections.wi.gov/files/2019-10/Nomination%20Paper%20Review%20Guide.pdf>

-00:01:05 Mandella GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
+00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
    12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)

00:04:22 No new factual information will be allowed to be added to record by Green Party at this hearing since they submitted nothing in writing in advance.
@@ -22775,19 +22775,19 @@

00:06:18 "...that's the only fair way to do it"

-00:07:17 Andrea -- calendar days vs business days. Received notice of challenge at 7:37pm Milwaukee time Fri Aug 7 via email.
+00:07:17 Mérida -- calendar days vs business days. Received notice of challenge at 7:37pm Milwaukee time Fri Aug 7 via email.

08:33:00 If time limit is less than 10 days then weekend days are included, not skipped.

-08:49:00 Andrea: Deadline should have run out on Tuesday Aug 11...
+08:49:00 Mérida: Deadline should have run out on Tuesday Aug 11...

-09:44:00 Andrea: We were told we could not file anything on Tuesday.
+09:44:00 Mérida: We were told we could not file anything on Tuesday.

-09:57:00 Mandella's 10 minutes.
+09:57:00 Mandell's 10 minutes.

-00:17:26 Andrea responds.
+00:17:26 Mérida responds.

-00:21:55 Mandella responds.
+00:21:55 Mandell responds.

00:23:05 will of electors argument

@@ -22795,6 +22795,8 @@

00:23:05 Sec 5.01 subdiv 1 does not apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions; "will of electors" not a factor

+00:24:25 Question from Spindell to staff person Megan
+


TODO...
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diff -w -u -r1.1142 -r1.1143
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 00:10:37 1.1142
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 10:53:26 1.1143
@@ -21695,10 +21695,12 @@



-###### {#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection}       {{{    lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection
+###### {#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection}       {{{    lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection     :=spoiler effect:

# [spoiler effect collection](#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection)

+[Ted Rall "Progressive Case for Voting Third Party..." | Aug 2020 ](https://www.unz.com/trall/never-trump-never-biden-the-progressive-case-for-voting-third-party-or-boycotting-the-election/)
+
Howie responds to Bill McKibben:

<https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/04/28/ranked-choice-voting-an-idea-whose-time-has-come/>
@@ -21709,7 +21711,7 @@

MIxgezeuieLO wmekh_Michael_AlbertAsqtAs_AsqtAopen_letterAsqtA_to_Howie_Hawkins { 

-###### {#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler   :spoiler effect:
+###### {#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler   

## [Michael Albert's 'open letter' to Howie Hawkins | the thread](#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler)

@@ -22762,7 +22764,7 @@

<https://elections.wi.gov/sites/elections.wi.gov/files/2019-10/Nomination%20Paper%20Review%20Guide.pdf>

-00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
+00:01:05 Mandella GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
    12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)

00:04:22 No new factual information will be allowed to be added to record by Green Party at this hearing since they submitted nothing in writing in advance.
@@ -22771,7 +22773,7 @@

00:05:33 Green Party forfeited right to deny any assertions by the challenger.

-00:06:18 "...that's the only fair way to do it'
+00:06:18 "...that's the only fair way to do it"

00:07:17 Andrea -- calendar days vs business days. Received notice of challenge at 7:37pm Milwaukee time Fri Aug 7 via email.

@@ -22791,7 +22793,7 @@

00:23:29 paragraph 1 on page 29 of Feb 29 2020 WEC meeting materials concerning the motion covering "will of electors" 

-00:23:05 Sec 5.01 subdiv 1 does not apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions
+00:23:05 Sec 5.01 subdiv 1 does not apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions; "will of electors" not a factor



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diff -w -u -r1.1141 -r1.1142
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/21 23:18:27 1.1141
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/22 00:10:37 1.1142
@@ -22783,6 +22783,18 @@

09:57:00 Mandella's 10 minutes.

+00:17:26 Andrea responds.
+
+00:21:55 Mandella responds.
+
+00:23:05 will of electors argument
+
+00:23:29 paragraph 1 on page 29 of Feb 29 2020 WEC meeting materials concerning the motion covering "will of electors" 
+
+00:23:05 Sec 5.01 subdiv 1 does not apply to the review of nomination papers and election petitions
+
+
+
TODO...


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diff -w -u -r1.1140 -r1.1141
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/21 23:12:47 1.1140
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/21 23:18:27 1.1141
@@ -22746,7 +22746,7 @@

###### {#eauhb_H20Ballotchal_hearingAug20}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#eauhb_H20Ballotchal_hearingAug20

-[H20 Ballot Challenge Hearing Thu Aug 20](#eauhb_H20Ballotchal_hearingAug20)
+# [H20 Ballot Challenge Hearing Thu Aug 20](#eauhb_H20Ballotchal_hearingAug20)

## Main video of hearing | 2+ hours: <https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=14>

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09:57:00 Mandella's 10 minutes.

+TODO...
+

## Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>

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---

-###### {#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20
+###### {#eauhb_H20Ballotchal_hearingAug20}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#eauhb_H20Ballotchal_hearingAug20

-[H20 Ballot Challenge Hearing Thu Aug 20](#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20)
+[H20 Ballot Challenge Hearing Thu Aug 20](#eauhb_H20Ballotchal_hearingAug20)

## Main video of hearing | 2+ hours: <https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=14>

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---

-#_hide {
-###### {#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20}
+###### {#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20

[H20 Ballot Challenge Hearing Thu Aug 20](#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20)

-Main video of hearing | 2+ hours: <https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=14>
+## Main video of hearing | 2+ hours: <https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=14>
+
+```
+     August 2020    
+Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
+                   1
+ 2  3  4  5  6  7  8
+ 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
+```
+
+<https://elections.wi.gov/candidates/nomination-papers>
+
+<https://elections.wi.gov/sites/elections.wi.gov/files/2019-10/Nomination%20Paper%20Review%20Guide.pdf>
+
+00:01:05 Mandell GP should have to forfeit since it prepared no written reply between 6pm Fri Aug 7 and 
+    12:00am Wed Aug 11 (end date right?)
+
+00:04:22 No new factual information will be allowed to be added to record by Green Party at this hearing since they submitted nothing in writing in advance.
+
+00:04:56 OK for Green Party to "argue the law".
+
+00:05:33 Green Party forfeited right to deny any assertions by the challenger.
+
+00:06:18 "...that's the only fair way to do it'

-Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
+00:07:17 Andrea -- calendar days vs business days. Received notice of challenge at 7:37pm Milwaukee time Fri Aug 7 via email.
+
+08:33:00 If time limit is less than 10 days then weekend days are included, not skipped.
+
+08:49:00 Andrea: Deadline should have run out on Tuesday Aug 11...
+
+09:44:00 Andrea: We were told we could not file anything on Tuesday.
+
+09:57:00 Mandella's 10 minutes.
+
+
+## Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
+
+#_hide {

Voted yes 6:0 that 1789 valid signatures were filed with the 
315 Royal St address for Angela Walker, and 1834 signatures on
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---

+#_hide {
###### {#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20}

[H20 Ballot Challenge Hearing Thu Aug 20](#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20)
@@ -22756,6 +22757,8 @@
315 Royal St address for Angela Walker, and 1834 signatures on
petition forms with the earlier TV Road address for Angela Walker.

+#_hide }
+
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@@ -22744,6 +22744,18 @@

---

+###### {#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20}
+
+[H20 Ballot Challenge Hearing Thu Aug 20](#eauhb_H20_Ballot_chall_Aug20)
+
+Main video of hearing | 2+ hours: <https://youtu.be/-odTAalQ9gE?t=14>
+
+Final vote | ~10 min: <https://youtu.be/8eJXOlq1mws>
+
+Voted yes 6:0 that 1789 valid signatures were filed with the 
+315 Royal St address for Angela Walker, and 1834 signatures on
+petition forms with the earlier TV Road address for Angela Walker.
+
:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
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+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/21 14:38:03 1.1135
@@ -22740,6 +22740,8 @@

'Status Coup' youtube coverage: <https://youtu.be/imo52kuIkIA>

+@pslmilwaukee (mostly photos | temporal / temp link ): <https://nitter.net/search?f=tweets&q=pslmilwaukee>
+
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# [CHI activist Frank Chapman intro](#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform)   :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform

-![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_%2839721196033%29.jpg){ width=70% }
+![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_%2839721196033%29.jpg){ width=100% }

## Work by or about Frank Chapman

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# [CHI activist Frank Chapman intro](#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform)   :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform

-![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_%2839721196033%29.jpg){ width=50% }
+![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_%2839721196033%29.jpg){ width=70% }

## Work by or about Frank Chapman

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# [CHI activist Frank Chapman intro](#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform)   :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform

-![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_%2839721196033%29.jpg)
+![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_%2839721196033%29.jpg){ width=50% }

## Work by or about Frank Chapman

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# [CHI activist Frank Chapman intro](#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform)   :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform

-![photo](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_(39721196033).jpg)
+![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_%2839721196033%29.jpg)

## Work by or about Frank Chapman

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# [CHI activist Frank Chapman intro](#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform)   :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform

-[photo](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_(39721196033).jpg)
+![photo](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Frank_Chapman_Chicago_Alliance_Against_Racist_and_Political_Repression_City_of_Chicago_Aldermanic_Candidates_Press_Conference_to_Support_Civilian_Police_Accountability_Council_Chicago_Illinois_1-9-19_5572_(39721196033).jpg)

## Work by or about Frank Chapman

@@ -22730,7 +22730,7 @@

###### {#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day

-# ['Coalition to March on DNC' Holds Rally Against Racism and Police Brutality in Milwaukee](https://zq3q.org/pco/#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day)
+# ['Coalition to March on DNC' final rally Thu Aug 20 | DNC 2020 convention ends](https://zq3q.org/pco/#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day)

<https://sputniknews.com/us/202008201080231198-coalition-to-march-on-dnc-holds-rally-against-racism-and-police-brutality-in-milwaukee/>

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@@ -22730,7 +22730,7 @@

###### {#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day

-# ['Coalition to March on DNC' Holds Rally Against Racism and Police Brutality in Milwaukee](#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day)
+# ['Coalition to March on DNC' Holds Rally Against Racism and Police Brutality in Milwaukee](https://zq3q.org/pco/#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day)

<https://sputniknews.com/us/202008201080231198-coalition-to-march-on-dnc-holds-rally-against-racism-and-police-brutality-in-milwaukee/>

@@ -22738,10 +22738,8 @@

> > [Frank Chapman](https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform) talks yesterday: <https://youtu.be/Y46WfnwQkco?t=5215>

-
'Status Coup' youtube coverage: <https://youtu.be/imo52kuIkIA>

-
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> > [Frank Chapman](https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform) talks yesterday: <https://youtu.be/Y46WfnwQkco?t=5215>


+'Status Coup' youtube coverage: <https://youtu.be/imo52kuIkIA>
+
+
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diff -w -u -r1.1126 -r1.1127
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/21 12:38:06 1.1126
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@@ -22728,7 +22728,7 @@

<https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2019/05/15/the-lies-about-world-war-ii/>

-###### {#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day}
+###### {#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day

# ['Coalition to March on DNC' Holds Rally Against Racism and Police Brutality in Milwaukee](#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day)

@@ -22736,7 +22736,7 @@

> <https://youtu.be/Y46WfnwQkco>

-> > <https://youtu.be/Y46WfnwQkco?t=5215>
+> > [Frank Chapman](https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform) talks yesterday: <https://youtu.be/Y46WfnwQkco?t=5215>


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@@ -18077,7 +18077,7 @@
familiarity: (estimated) since ~2018


-###### {#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform}
+###### {#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform}  https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform

# [CHI activist Frank Chapman intro](#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform)   :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#vtpxu_Frank_Chapman_chiAslashApolicereform

@@ -22728,6 +22728,19 @@

<https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2019/05/15/the-lies-about-world-war-ii/>

+###### {#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day}
+
+# ['Coalition to March on DNC' Holds Rally Against Racism and Police Brutality in Milwaukee](#vrkel_marchondnc2020_final_day)
+
+<https://sputniknews.com/us/202008201080231198-coalition-to-march-on-dnc-holds-rally-against-racism-and-police-brutality-in-milwaukee/>
+
+> <https://youtu.be/Y46WfnwQkco>
+
+> > <https://youtu.be/Y46WfnwQkco?t=5215>
+
+
+---
+
:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
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diff -w -u -r1.1124 -r1.1125
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/18 16:38:05 1.1124
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/18 18:38:03 1.1125
@@ -219,6 +219,11 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+Nader on spoiler effect
+:   skip to 50:30 <https://archives.kpfa.org/data/20200817-Mon1100.mp3>
+
+---
+
###### {#eyzxz_Vaccines_Licensed_for_Use_in_the_United_States_O174O_vaccine_insertsAslashAwarnings}

# [Vaccines Licensed for Use in the United States | vaccine inserts/warnings](#eyzxz_Vaccines_Licensed_for_Use_in_the_United_States_O174O_vaccine_insertsAslashAwarnings)
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diff -w -u -r1.1123 -r1.1124
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/17 13:34:02 1.1123
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/18 16:38:05 1.1124
@@ -22365,22 +22365,30 @@

---

-## LBRY <https://lbry.tv/>
+###### {#knyfz_LBRY_intro}

-Small, young. Unproven mobile app? MIT? license/open source.
+## [LBRY intro ](#knyfz_LBRY_intro)

-<https://lbry.com/news/lbrytv>
+<https://lbry.tv/>

<https://www.reddit.com/r/lbry/>

<https://twitter.com/LBRYio>

+Small, young. Unproven mobile app? MIT? license/open source.
+
+<https://lbry.com/news/lbrytv>
+
<https://lbry.com/faq/different-bitchute>

[join discord chat](https://lbry.org/index.php?title=Welcome&_ga=2.231717978.437482463.1592668128-393397177.1592668128)

<https://www.reddit.com/r/BitTube/comments/gbr3uf/my_reasons_for_not_liking_lbry_and_why_i_dont/>

+### reviews or about
+
+review <https://youtu.be/lYCxx1gNgaw>
+
## about to launch: <https://howdoo.io/faq/>

## PewTube
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diff -w -u -r1.1122 -r1.1123
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/17 12:03:14 1.1122
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/17 13:34:02 1.1123
@@ -22703,6 +22703,14 @@
>     to feed, clothe, cure, and shelter millions of people, and to
>     environmentally protect the earth.

+### "war is a lie" 
+
+<https://www.globalresearch.ca/war-is-a-lie/5325713>
+
+<https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/war-lie/>
+
+<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3spLydTvTsg>
+
## others on WWII as "Good War"

<https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2019/05/15/the-lies-about-world-war-ii/>
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diff -w -u -r1.1121 -r1.1122
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/17 11:55:50 1.1121
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/17 12:03:14 1.1122
@@ -22541,7 +22541,7 @@

<https://lwn.net/Articles/436035/>

-###### {#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War}
+###### {#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War

# [World War Two Was Not a Just War | what-about-the-good-war question](#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War)

@@ -22703,7 +22703,7 @@
>     to feed, clothe, cure, and shelter millions of people, and to
>     environmentally protect the earth.

-## others
+## others on WWII as "Good War"

<https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2019/05/15/the-lies-about-world-war-ii/>

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diff -w -u -r1.1120 -r1.1121
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/17 11:41:18 1.1120
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/17 11:55:50 1.1121
@@ -22545,7 +22545,7 @@

# [World War Two Was Not a Just War | what-about-the-good-war question](#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War)

-Collection of D Swanson articles on just war.
+## Collection of D Swanson articles on just war.

<https://davidswanson.org/world-war-two-was-not-a-just-war/>

@@ -22703,6 +22703,9 @@
>     to feed, clothe, cure, and shelter millions of people, and to
>     environmentally protect the earth.

+## others
+
+<https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2019/05/15/the-lies-about-world-war-ii/>

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diff -w -u -r1.1119 -r1.1120
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/15 12:38:06 1.1119
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/17 11:41:18 1.1120
@@ -22541,6 +22541,169 @@

<https://lwn.net/Articles/436035/>

+###### {#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War}
+
+# [World War Two Was Not a Just War | what-about-the-good-war question](#wcfcw_World_War_Two_Was_Not_a_Just_War)
+
+Collection of D Swanson articles on just war.
+
+<https://davidswanson.org/world-war-two-was-not-a-just-war/>
+
+> Here are what I think of as the top 12 reasons the Good War wasn't good/just.
+>
+> 1.  World War II could not have happened without World War I, without the
+>     stupid manner of starting World War I and the even stupider manner of
+>     ending World War I which led numerous wise people to predict World War II
+>     on the spot, or without Wall Street's funding of Nazi Germany for decades
+>     (as preferable to communists), or without the arms race and numerous bad
+>     decisions that do not need to be repeated in the future.
+>
+> 2.  The U.S. government was not hit with a surprise attack. President Franklin
+>     Roosevelt had quietly promised Churchill that the United States would work
+>     hard to provoke Japan into staging an attack. FDR knew the attack was
+>     coming, and initially drafted a declaration of war against both Germany and
+>     Japan on the evening of Pearl Harbor. Prior to Pearl Harbor, FDR had built
+>     up bases in the U.S. and multiple oceans, traded weapons to the Brits for
+>     bases, started the draft, created a list of every Japanese American person
+>     in the country, provided planes, trainers, and pilots to China, imposed
+>     harsh sanctions on Japan, and advised the U.S. military that a war with
+>     Japan was beginning. He told his top advisers he expected an attack on
+>     December 1st, which was six days off. Here's an entry in Secretary of War
+>     Henry Stimson's diary following a November 25, 1941, White House meeting:
+>     “The President said the Japanese were notorious for making an attack
+>     without warning and stated that we might be attacked, say next Monday, for
+>     example.”
+>
+> 3.  The war was not humanitarian and was not even marketed as such until after
+>     it was over. There was no poster asking you to help Uncle Sam save the
+>     Jews. A ship of Jewish refugees from Germany was chased away from Miami by
+>     the Coast Guard. The U.S. and other nations refused to accept Jewish
+>     refugees, and the majority of the U.S. public supported that position.
+>     Peace groups that questioned Prime Minister Winston Churchill and his
+>     foreign secretary about shipping Jews out of Germany to save them were told
+>     that, while Hitler might very well agree to the plan, it would be too much
+>     trouble and require too many ships. The U.S. engaged in no diplomatic or
+>     military effort to save the victims in the Nazi concentration camps. Anne
+>     Frank was denied a U.S. visa. Although this point has nothing to do with a
+>     serious historian's case for WWII as a Just War, it is so central to U.S.
+>     mythology that I'll include here a key passage from Nicholson Baker:
+>
+>     > *“Anthony Eden, Britain's foreign secretary, who'd been tasked by Churchill
+>     > with handling queries about refugees, dealt coldly with one of many important
+>     > delegations, saying that any diplomatic effort to obtain the release of the
+>     > Jews from Hitler was ‘fantastically impossible.' On a trip to the United
+>     > States, Eden candidly told Cordell Hull, the secretary of state, that the real
+>     > difficulty with asking Hitler for the Jews was that ‘Hitler might well take us
+>     > up on any such offer, and there simply are not enough ships and means of
+>     > transportation in the world to handle them.' Churchill agreed. ‘Even were we to
+>     > obtain permission to withdraw all the Jews,' he wrote in reply to one pleading
+>     > letter, ‘transport alone presents a problem which will be difficult of
+>     > solution.' Not enough shipping and transport? Two years earlier, the British
+>     > had evacuated nearly 340,000 men from the beaches of Dunkirk in just nine days.
+>     > The U.S. Air Force had many thousands of new planes. During even a brief
+>     > armistice, the Allies could have airlifted and transported refugees in very
+>     > large numbers out of the German
+>     > sphere.”[\[vii\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn7)*
+>
+>     Perhaps it does go to the question of “Right Intention” that the “good” side of
+>     the war simply did not give a damn about what would become the central example
+>     of the badness of the “bad” side of the war.
+>
+> 4.  The war was not defensive. FDR lied that he had a map of Nazi plans to
+>     carve up South America, that he had a Nazi plan to eliminate religion, that
+>     U.S. ships (covertly assisting British war planes) were innocently attacked
+>     by Nazis, that Germany was a threat to the United
+>     States.[\[viii\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn8)
+>     A case can be made that the U.S. needed to enter the war in Europe to
+>     defend other nations, which had entered to defend yet other nations, but a
+>     case could also be made that the U.S. escalated the targeting of civilians,
+>     extended the war, and inflicted more damage than might have occurred, had
+>     the U.S. done nothing, attempted diplomacy, or invested in nonviolence. To
+>     claim that a Nazi empire could have grown to someday include an occupation
+>     of the United States is wildly far fetched and not borne out by any earlier
+>     or later examples from other wars.
+>
+> 5.  We now know much more widely and with much more data that nonviolent
+>     resistance to occupation and injustice is more likely to succeed---and that
+>     success more likely to last---than violent resistance. With this knowledge,
+>     we can look back at the stunning successes of nonviolent actions against
+>     the Nazis that were not well organized or built on beyond their initial
+>     successes.[\[ix\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn9)
+>
+> 6.  The Good War was not good for the troops. Lacking intense modern training
+>     and psychological conditioning to prepare soldiers to engage in the
+>     unnatural act of murder, some 80 percent of U.S. and other troops in World
+>     War II did not fire their weapons at “the
+>     enemy.”[\[x\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn10)
+>     The fact that veterans of WWII were treated better after the war than other
+>     soldiers before or since, was the result of the pressure created by the
+>     Bonus Army after the previous war. That veterans were given free college,
+>     healthcare, and pensions was not due to the merits of the war or in some
+>     way a result of the war. Without the war, everyone could have been given
+>     free college for many years. If we provided free college to everyone today,
+>     it would then require much more than Hollywoodized World War II stories to
+>     get many people into military recruiting stations.
+>
+> 7.  Several times the number of people killed in German camps were killed
+>     outside of them in the war. The majority of those people were civilians.
+>     The scale of the killing, wounding, and destroying made WWII the single
+>     worst thing humanity has ever done to itself in a short space of time. We
+>     imagine the allies were somehow “opposed” to the far lesser killing in the
+>     camps. But that can't justify the cure that was worse than the disease.
+>
+> 8.  Escalating the war to include the all-out destruction of civilians and
+>     cities, culminating in the completely indefensible nuking of cities took
+>     WWII out of the realm of defensible projects for many who had defended its
+>     initiation---and rightly so. Demanding unconditional surrender and seeking
+>     to maximize death and suffering did immense damage and left a grim and
+>     foreboding legacy.
+>
+> 9.  Killing huge numbers of people is supposedly defensible for the “good” side
+>     in a war, but not for the “bad” side. The distinction between the two is
+>     never as stark as fantasized. The United States had a long history as an
+>     apartheid state. U.S. traditions of oppressing African Americans,
+>     practicing genocide against Native Americans, and now interning Japanese
+>     Americans also gave rise to specific programs that inspired Germany's
+>     Nazis---these included camps for Native Americans, and programs of eugenics
+>     and human experimentation that existed before, during, and after the war.
+>     One of these programs included giving syphilis to people in Guatemala at
+>     the same time the Nuremberg trials were taking
+>     place.[\[xi\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn11)
+>     The U.S. military hired hundreds of top Nazis at the end of the war; they
+>     fit right
+>     in.[\[xii\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn12)
+>     The U.S. aimed for a wider world empire, before the war, during it, and
+>     ever since. German neo-Nazis today, forbidden to wave the Nazi flag,
+>     sometimes wave the flag of the Confederate States of America instead.
+>
+> 10. The “good” side of the “good war,” the party that did most of the killing
+>     and dying for the winning side, was the communist Soviet Union. That
+>     doesn't make the war a triumph for communism, but it does tarnish
+>     Washington's and Hollywood's tales of triumph for
+>     “democracy.”[\[xiii\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn13)
+>
+> 11. World War II still hasn't ended. Ordinary people in the United States
+>     didn't have their incomes taxed until World War II and that's never
+>     stopped. It was supposed to be
+>     temporary.[\[xiv\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn14)
+>     WWII-era bases built around the world have never closed. U.S. troops have
+>     never left Germany or
+>     Japan.[\[xv\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn15)
+>     There are more than 100,000 U.S. and British bombs still in the ground in
+>     Germany, still
+>     killing.[\[xvi\]](http://worldbeyondwar.org/world-war-two-not-just-war/#_edn16)
+>
+> 12. Going back 75 years to a nuclear-free, colonial world of completely
+>     different structures, laws, and habits to justify what has been the
+>     greatest expense of the United States in each of the years since is a
+>     bizarre feat of self-deception that isn't attempted in the justification of
+>     any lesser enterprise. Assume I've got numbers 1 through 11 totally wrong,
+>     and you've still got to explain how an event from the early 1940s justifies
+>     dumping a trillion 2017 dollars into war funding that could have been spent
+>     to feed, clothe, cure, and shelter millions of people, and to
+>     environmentally protect the earth.
+
+
:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1118 -r1.1119
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/14 20:38:06 1.1118
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/15 12:38:06 1.1119
@@ -248,6 +248,8 @@

<https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/horror-in-beirut/>  
 
+<https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/lebanon-ex-interior-minister-openly-blames-israel-for-beirut-blast> 
+ 
---


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diff -w -u -r1.1117 -r1.1118
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/14 16:38:05 1.1117
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/14 20:38:06 1.1118
@@ -219,6 +219,16 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+###### {#eyzxz_Vaccines_Licensed_for_Use_in_the_United_States_O174O_vaccine_insertsAslashAwarnings}
+
+# [Vaccines Licensed for Use in the United States | vaccine inserts/warnings](#eyzxz_Vaccines_Licensed_for_Use_in_the_United_States_O174O_vaccine_insertsAslashAwarnings)
+
+<https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/vaccines-licensed-use-united-states>
+
+refering article: <https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/read-the-fine-print-part-two-nearly-400-adverse-reactions-listed-in-vaccine-package-inserts/>
+
+---
+
###### {#igmld_Beirut_explosion_early_news}

# [Rania Khalek 1st hand account of Beirut explosion | Other witnesses](https://zq3q.org/pco/#igmld_Beirut_explosion_early_news)
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diff -w -u -r1.1116 -r1.1117
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/14 14:38:03 1.1116
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/14 16:38:05 1.1117
@@ -8940,7 +8940,7 @@

###### {#kyvzl_Andrea_Merida_Cuellar}

-# [Andrea Mérida Cuéllar](#kyvzl_Andrea_Merida_Cuellar)   :bio:
+# [Andrea Mérida Cuéllar](#kyvzl_Andrea_Merida_Cuellar)   :bio:       lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#kyvzl_Andrea_Merida_Cuellar

<https://www.gp.org/andrea_merida_cuellar>

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diff -w -u -r1.1115 -r1.1116
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/12 22:38:04 1.1115
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/14 14:38:03 1.1116
@@ -8938,7 +8938,51 @@

[\@veritasclub](https://twitter.com/veritasclub)

+###### {#kyvzl_Andrea_Merida_Cuellar}

+# [Andrea Mérida Cuéllar](#kyvzl_Andrea_Merida_Cuellar)   :bio:
+
+<https://www.gp.org/andrea_merida_cuellar>
+
+<http://facebook.com/andreaemerida>
+
+<https://twitter.com/andreamerida>
+
+<https://www.instagram.com/andreamerida303/>
+
+## Work by or about Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+
+<https://ballotpedia.org/Howie_Hawkins_presidential_campaign_staff,_2020>
+
+<https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2016/06/15/18787580.php>
+
+<https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-dan-savage-is-dead-wrong-about-jill-stein-and-the_b_5790e5ace4b0a86259d0dc25>
+
+Stein, Cobb, Zeese,  Mérida:  <https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/21/green-party-growing-pains-our-own-crisis-of-democracy/>
+
+familiarity: Aug 2020
+
+#_hide{
+Andrea Mérida Cuéllar intro
+swap_w_Cntrl_underscore :bio:
+
+open -t Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t g! Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: http://wikispooks.com/ Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t w! Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t reddit! Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: http://www.sourcewatch.org Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: https://everipedia.org Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: https://www.historycommons.org/ Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: https://www.nndb.com/ Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: https://biography.com/ Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: https://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/ Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: https://www.earnthenecklace.com/ Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: https://www.revolvy.com Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: https://alchetron.com Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+open -t site: https://zq3q.org/ Andrea Mérida Cuéllar
+familiarity:
+#_hide}


#_hide{
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diff -w -u -r1.1114 -r1.1115
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/12 22:31:04 1.1114
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/12 22:38:04 1.1115
@@ -221,9 +221,9 @@

###### {#igmld_Beirut_explosion_early_news}

-# [Rania Khalek 1st hand account of Beirut explosion | Other witnesses](#igmld_Beirut_explosion_early_news)
+# [Rania Khalek 1st hand account of Beirut explosion | Other witnesses](https://zq3q.org/pco/#igmld_Beirut_explosion_early_news)

-Rania Khalek: <https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/unauthorizeddisclosure/S7E29edit.mp3?dest-id=183202>
+Rania Khalek audio: <https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/unauthorizeddisclosure/S7E29edit.mp3?dest-id=183202>

Investigative report Kristina Borjesson interviews Charlotte Dennett
:   <https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/gtm3k8/WB_080720.mp3>
@@ -238,13 +238,13 @@

<https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/horror-in-beirut/>  
 
---
+---



###### {#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels}

-# [TWIP podcast |chart of PCR CT level vs time vs xmital](#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels)
+# [TWIV podcast |chart of PCR CT level vs time vs xmital](#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels)

03:10 - 14?+ <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV648.mp3?dest-id=25528>

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diff -w -u -r1.1113 -r1.1114
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/12 20:38:05 1.1113
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/12 22:31:04 1.1114
@@ -223,13 +223,20 @@

# [Rania Khalek 1st hand account of Beirut explosion | Other witnesses](#igmld_Beirut_explosion_early_news)

-<https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/unauthorizeddisclosure/S7E29edit.mp3?dest-id=183202>
+Rania Khalek: <https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/unauthorizeddisclosure/S7E29edit.mp3?dest-id=183202>

-Investigative report Kristina Borjesson interviews 
-<https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/gtm3k8/WB_080720.mp3>
+Investigative report Kristina Borjesson interviews Charlotte Dennett
+:   <https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/gtm3k8/WB_080720.mp3>

+> BEIRUT: ACCIDENT OR ATTACK?  Investigative reporter, attorney and author
+> Charlotte Dennett, who was born in Beirut, worked as a reporter there and is
+> an expert on Middle East affairs, explores the historical context in which the
+> enormous explosion at Beirut’s port occurred and talks about who stands to
+> benefit from the bloody chaos and what agendas are in play in that part of the
+> world.

-<https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/horror-in-beirut/>
+
+<https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/horror-in-beirut/>  
 
--

@@ -294,7 +301,9 @@

---

-virologists optimistic! $1 low sensitivity covid test, could drop R significantly if done daily
+###### {#iwwyc_low_sens_covid_test2dropR}
+
+[virologists optimistic! $1 low sensitivity covid test, could drop R significantly if done daily](#iwwyc_low_sens_covid_test2dropR)
:   The test exists, but is not a product now. 

    [This Week in Virology | mp3](http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV640.mp3?dest-id=25528)
@@ -306,6 +315,8 @@
    The test is quick and can be done at home. It does not catch early covid, but when
    it indicates covid, Michael Mina claims it is accurate and self quarantine should start.

+    [Michael Mina | "Med Cram" video snips / 5 min](https://youtu.be/AZWuyvBAWWQ)
+
    Update: <https://whowhatwhy.org/2020/08/12/fda-red-tape-entangles-instant-coronavirus-test/>

---
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diff -w -u -r1.1112 -r1.1113
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 18:55:32 1.1112
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/12 20:38:05 1.1113
@@ -306,6 +306,8 @@
    The test is quick and can be done at home. It does not catch early covid, but when
    it indicates covid, Michael Mina claims it is accurate and self quarantine should start.

+    Update: <https://whowhatwhy.org/2020/08/12/fda-red-tape-entangles-instant-coronavirus-test/>
+
---

Michigan Goes to Supreme Court to Reverse Laws Easing Initiative Signature Gathering Restrictions During Pandemic
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1111 -r1.1112
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 14:38:04 1.1111
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 18:55:32 1.1112
@@ -8465,6 +8465,8 @@

<https://www.reddit.com/r/BritishCommunists/comments/8tr1lz/americas_cold_war_tugboat_by_gerald_sussman/>

+<https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/13/the-russiagate-spectacle-season-2/>
+
<https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/09/americas-troll-farm-media/>

<https://www.bookdepository.com/Branding-Democracy-Gerald-Sussman/9781433105302>
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1110 -r1.1111
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 12:38:06 1.1110
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 14:38:04 1.1111
@@ -12933,7 +12933,7 @@

###### {#emeed_heartmathO073O_heart_rate_variability}

-# [heartmath; heart rate variability](#emeed_heartmathO073O_heart_rate_variability)  :hrv
+# [heartmath; heart rate variability](#emeed_heartmathO073O_heart_rate_variability)  :hrv:dm:8irf3y:

<https://www.youtube.com/user/HeartMathInstitute>

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1109 -r1.1110
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 01:45:07 1.1109
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 12:38:06 1.1110
@@ -228,8 +228,13 @@
Investigative report Kristina Borjesson interviews 
<https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/gtm3k8/WB_080720.mp3>

+
+<https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/horror-in-beirut/>
+ 
--

+
+
###### {#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels}

# [TWIP podcast |chart of PCR CT level vs time vs xmital](#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels)
@@ -8412,6 +8417,34 @@

<http://thiscantbehappening.net/node/3688>

+#_hide{
+###### {#eomfb_Emily_Levy_intro_O174O_voting}
+
+# [Emily Levy intro | voting](#eomfb_Emily_Levy_intro_O174O_voting)  :bio:
+
+## Work by or about Emily Levy
+
+open -t Emily Levy
+open -t g! Emily Levy
+open -t site: http://wikispooks.com/ Emily Levy
+open -t w! Emily Levy
+open -t reddit! Emily Levy
+open -t site: http://www.sourcewatch.org Emily Levy
+open -t site: https://everipedia.org Emily Levy
+open -t site: https://www.historycommons.org/ Emily Levy
+open -t site: https://www.nndb.com/ Emily Levy
+open -t site: https://biography.com/ Emily Levy
+open -t site: https://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/ Emily Levy
+open -t site: https://www.earnthenecklace.com/ Emily Levy
+open -t site: https://www.revolvy.com Emily Levy
+open -t site: https://alchetron.com Emily Levy
+open -t site: https://zq3q.org/ Emily Levy
+
+familiarity:
+
+I met her, and worked with her during the 2016 recount.
+
+#_hide}

###### {#bozpo_Gerald_Sussman_O174O_Portland_State_Univ_intro_}

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1108 -r1.1109
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 00:38:05 1.1108
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 01:45:07 1.1109
@@ -225,7 +225,10 @@

<https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/unauthorizeddisclosure/S7E29edit.mp3?dest-id=183202>

+Investigative report Kristina Borjesson interviews 
+<https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/gtm3k8/WB_080720.mp3>

+--

###### {#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels}

@@ -8409,6 +8412,48 @@

<http://thiscantbehappening.net/node/3688>

+
+###### {#bozpo_Gerald_Sussman_O174O_Portland_State_Univ_intro_}
+
+# [Gerald Sussman | Portland State Univ intro ](#bozpo_Gerald_Sussman_O174O_Portland_State_Univ_intro_)  :bio:
+
+<https://www.pdx.edu/intl/profile/meet-professor-gerald-sussman>
+
+## Work by or about Gerald Sussman
+
+<https://www.counterpunch.org/author/gersuss9009/>
+
+> Gerald Sussman is professor of urban studies and international and global
+> studies at Portland State University.
+
+<https://works.bepress.com/gerald-sussman/>
+
+<https://www.amazon.com/Propaganda-Society-Promotional-Frontiers-Communication/dp/1433109964>
+
+<https://www.reddit.com/r/BritishCommunists/comments/8tr1lz/americas_cold_war_tugboat_by_gerald_sussman/>
+
+<https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/09/americas-troll-farm-media/>
+
+<https://www.bookdepository.com/Branding-Democracy-Gerald-Sussman/9781433105302>
+
+<https://monthlyreview.org/2006/12/01/the-myths-of-democracy-assistance-u-s-political-intervention-in-post-soviet-eastern-europe>
+
+#_hide{
+open -t site: http://wikispooks.com/ Gerald Sussman
+open -t reddit! Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: http://www.sourcewatch.org Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: https://everipedia.org Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: https://www.historycommons.org/ Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: https://www.nndb.com/ Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: https://biography.com/ Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: https://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/ Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: https://www.earnthenecklace.com/ Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: https://www.revolvy.com Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: https://alchetron.com Gerald Sussman
+open -t site: https://zq3q.org/ Gerald Sussman
+familiarity:
+#_hide}
+
###### {#jaruc_Elinor_Ostrom_Intro}

# [Elinor Ostrom Intro](#jaruc_Elinor_Ostrom_Intro)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1107 -r1.1108
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/05 23:18:20 1.1107
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/11 00:38:05 1.1108
@@ -219,6 +219,14 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+###### {#igmld_Beirut_explosion_early_news}
+
+# [Rania Khalek 1st hand account of Beirut explosion | Other witnesses](#igmld_Beirut_explosion_early_news)
+
+<https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/unauthorizeddisclosure/S7E29edit.mp3?dest-id=183202>
+
+
+
###### {#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels}

# [TWIP podcast |chart of PCR CT level vs time vs xmital](#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1106 -r1.1107
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/05 22:47:53 1.1106
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/05 23:18:20 1.1107
@@ -22335,10 +22335,30 @@

<https://riseup.net/en/about-us>

+<https://riseuplabs.org/>
+
<https://riseup.net/en/security/resources>

+<https://twitter.com/riseupnet>
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riseup>
+
+<https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/riseup-net>
+
+
## others comment on riseup.net

+<https://blog.torproject.org/tor-heart-riseupnet>
+
+> Riseup.net was started back in 1999 after the WTO protests in Seattle. They
+> provide online communication tools, including email, chat, file uploads
+> and collaborative platforms for people and groups working on liberatory
+> social change. Riseup is a project to create democratic alternatives and
+> to practice self-determination through the control of secure means of
+> communication.
+
+<https://www.apc.org/en/member/riseup-networks>
+
<https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/01/responding-to-antifa-and-riseup-on-revolutionary-politics-and-non-violence/>

> The group describes itself as committed to “human liberation” and
@@ -22356,6 +22376,13 @@

> <https://riseup.net/en/security#security-overview>

+<https://ask.metafilter.com/205093/Is-Riseupnet-a-good-secure-service-for-lefty-activists>
+
+## [Riseup provides crabgrass as a service](https://we.riseup.net/)
+
+<https://0xacab.org/riseuplabs/crabgrass/-/blob/master/README.md>
+
+<https://lwn.net/Articles/436035/>

:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1105 -r1.1106
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/05 22:38:04 1.1105
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/05 22:47:53 1.1106
@@ -22328,11 +22328,16 @@

# [riseup.net overview](#tptrk_riseup.net_overview)   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#tptrk_riseup.net_overview

+My interest now in rise up is as a replacement for google groups mailing lists. I've been on
+a riseup.net mailing list or two for years, and they seem to work just fine.  
+
The leadership of riseup.net is entirely anonymous.

<https://riseup.net/en/about-us>

-## reviews
+<https://riseup.net/en/security/resources>
+
+## others comment on riseup.net

<https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/01/responding-to-antifa-and-riseup-on-revolutionary-politics-and-non-violence/>

@@ -22347,6 +22352,10 @@

<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13007234>

+> They're my email and VPN providers with a great history for privacy.
+
+> <https://riseup.net/en/security#security-overview>
+

:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1104 -r1.1105
--- site.body.markdown  2020/08/03 16:38:06 1.1104
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/05 22:38:04 1.1105
@@ -22324,6 +22324,29 @@

[Deep Green Resistance | Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/user/DeepGreenResistance/)

+###### {#tptrk_riseup.net_overview}
+
+# [riseup.net overview](#tptrk_riseup.net_overview)   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#tptrk_riseup.net_overview
+
+The leadership of riseup.net is entirely anonymous.
+
+<https://riseup.net/en/about-us>
+
+## reviews
+
+<https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/01/responding-to-antifa-and-riseup-on-revolutionary-politics-and-non-violence/>
+
+> The group describes itself as committed to “human liberation” and
+> “the fight for freedom and the self-determination of all oppressed
+> groups” and as opposing “all forms of prejudice, authoritarianism, and
+> vanguardism.” Riseup states: “Our purpose is to aid in the creation of
+> a free society, a world with freedom from want and freedom of expression, a
+> world without oppression or hierarchy, where power is shared equally. We do
+> this by providing communication and computer resources to allies engaged in
+> struggles against capitalism and other forms of oppression.”
+
+<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13007234>
+

:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1103 -r1.1104
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/30 12:38:05 1.1103
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/08/03 16:38:06 1.1104
@@ -219,6 +219,14 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+###### {#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels}
+
+# [TWIP podcast |chart of PCR CT level vs time vs xmital](#bmdtk_covit_pct_ct_levels)
+
+03:10 - 14?+ <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV648.mp3?dest-id=25528>
+
+---
+
###### {#npavf_Lindorff_on_Ted_Hall}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#npavf_Lindorff_on_Ted_Hall

[Dave Lindorff | how 2 western "spies/traitors" saved Russia saved from annihilation by USA](https://zq3q.org/pco/#npavf_Lindorff_on_Ted_Hall)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1102 -r1.1103
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/30 12:15:24 1.1102
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/30 12:38:05 1.1103
@@ -239,6 +239,8 @@

<http://media.blubrry.com/chriscook/s/www.gorilla-radio.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Gorilla-Radio-with-Chris-Cook-Dave-Lindorff-Terry-Wolfwood-raw-cut-July-30-2020.mp3>

+<https://thiscantbehappening.net/did-the-us-really-intend-to-destroy-the-soviet-union-with-its-nuclear-monopoly/>
+
---

###### {#eyprx_wkrs_wlrd_china}
@@ -12421,6 +12423,45 @@

<https://www.youtube.com/user/SEPupload>

+
+#_hide{
+###### {#lhbla_Klaus_Fuchs_intro}
+
+# [Klaus Fuchs intro](#lhbla_Klaus_Fuchs_intro)   :bio:
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Fuchs>
+
+<https://www.britannica.com/biography/Klaus-Fuchs>
+
+<https://www.atomicheritage.org/profile/klaus-fuchs>
+
+<https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Klaus_Fuchs>
+
+<http://www.atomicarchive.com/Bios/Fuchs.shtml>
+
+<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/20/atom-spy-klaus-fuchs-was-motivated-by-conscience>
+
+## Work by or about Klaus Fuchs
+
+<https://nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/cold-war-on-file/klaus-fuchs-confesses/>
+
+open -t Klaus Fuchs
+open -t g! Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: http://wikispooks.com/ Klaus Fuchs
+open -t w! Klaus Fuchs
+open -t reddit! Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: http://www.sourcewatch.org Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: https://everipedia.org Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: https://www.historycommons.org/ Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: https://www.nndb.com/ Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: https://biography.com/ Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: https://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/ Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: https://www.earnthenecklace.com/ Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: https://www.revolvy.com Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: https://alchetron.com Klaus Fuchs
+open -t site: https://zq3q.org/ Klaus Fuchs
+familiarity:
+#_hide}
###### {#tozma_Ted_Rall_intro}      lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#tozma_Ted_Rall_intro

# [Ted Rall intro ](#tozma_Ted_Rall_intro)  :bio:
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1101 -r1.1102
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/29 12:38:05 1.1101
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/30 12:15:24 1.1102
@@ -219,6 +219,28 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+###### {#npavf_Lindorff_on_Ted_Hall}   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#npavf_Lindorff_on_Ted_Hall
+
+[Dave Lindorff | how 2 western "spies/traitors" saved Russia saved from annihilation by USA](https://zq3q.org/pco/#npavf_Lindorff_on_Ted_Hall)
+
+[Dave Lindorff interview | Remembering Ted Hall and Klaus Fuchs](http://media.blubrry.com/chriscook/www.gorilla-radio.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Dave-Lindorff-1-Hour-cut-July-28-2020.mp3)
+
+> A mythology surrounding the dropping of the omnicidal ‘Fat Man’ and
+> ‘Little Boy’ atomic bombs was fostered after the fact by an America
+> eager to maintain its mantle of supreme power, while posturing as saviour
+> and moral arbiter of the newly unmade World. The story, still told and
+> retold today, portrays the United States as a reluctant warrior forced into
+> World War II, and forced to end the Pacific war quickly in order to save
+> lives; in short, forced to destroy cities to save them.
+
+<https://thiscantbehappening.net/hiroshima-nagasaki-and-the-spies-who-prevented-a-criminal-us-from-obtaining-a-nuclear-monopoly/>
+
+* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Hall>
+
+<http://media.blubrry.com/chriscook/s/www.gorilla-radio.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Gorilla-Radio-with-Chris-Cook-Dave-Lindorff-Terry-Wolfwood-raw-cut-July-30-2020.mp3>
+
+---
+
###### {#eyprx_wkrs_wlrd_china}

[imp podcast series from workers world on China| Essential Dissent  WWP](https://zq3q.org/pco/#eyprx_wkrs_wlrd_china)
@@ -8341,15 +8363,29 @@

<http://www.bollier.org/about>

-###### {#bscjj_Dave_Lindorff_intro}
+###### {#bscjj_Dave_Lindorff_intro}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#bscjj_Dave_Lindorff_intro

# [Dave Lindorff intro](#bscjj_Dave_Lindorff_intro)   :bio:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Lindorff>

+<http://thiscantbehappening.net/lindorff>
+
+<https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Dave_Lindorff>
+
+<https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-lindorff-18a6b64>
+
+<http://www.smirkingchimp.com/author/dave-lindorff>
+
## selected or collected work by Dave Lindorff

-<http://thiscantbehappening.net/lindorff>
+<https://www.counterpunch.org/author/dl/>
+
+<https://fair.org/author/dave-lindorff/>
+
+<https://www.commondreams.org/author/dave-lindorff>
+
+<https://www.salon.com/writer/dave_lindorff>

<https://www.thenation.com/authors/dave-lindorff/>

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1100 -r1.1101
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/28 20:38:05 1.1100
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/29 12:38:05 1.1101
@@ -18601,7 +18601,56 @@
bryan G is the bailoutthepeople guy
#_h}

-:p1
+:p1 
+
+###### {#bvpfw_covid-19_tests}
+
+# [covid-19 tests](#bvpfw_covid-19_tests)
+
+## molecular test | PCR test
+
+### <https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-updates-methods-cost-availability/>
+
+> reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction, or RT-PCR, where genetic
+> material from a sample is copied and then compared to the genetic sequence
+> of the virus you’re trying to detect.
+
+This blog entry has a list of tests, and their turn around times.
+
+ID NOW by Abbott is not recommended by TWIV.
+
+## antigen test | fast results, same sample methods
+
+## antigen test | serological tests
+
+Serological tests
+:   <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serology>
+
+<https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-updates-methods-cost-availability/>
+
+> Unlike diagnostic tests, serological tests can identify people who were
+> infected and have recovered.
+
+# how long do you transmit | how long to isolate
+
+<https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-updates-methods-cost-availability/>
+
+<https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/disposition-in-home-patients.html>
+
+<https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/duration-isolation.html>
+
+> Persons with more severe to critical illness or severe immunocompromise
+> likely remain infectious no longer than 20 days after symptom onset.
+> Recovered persons can continue to shed detectable SARS-CoV-2 RNA in upper
+> respiratory specimens for up to 3 months after illness onset, albeit
+> at concentrations considerably lower than during illness, in ranges
+> where replication-competent virus has not been reliably recovered and
+> infectiousness is unlikely.
+
+> In many cases, people may continue to test positive for SARS-CoV-2 long
+> after their symptoms have resolved and they are no longer contagious,
+> resulting in prolonged isolation that is unnecessary.
+
###### {#voowr_covid19_}         :covid-19:sfw: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#voowr_covid19_

# [covid-19 ](#voowr_covid19_)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1099 -r1.1100
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/28 18:38:03 1.1099
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/28 20:38:05 1.1100
@@ -22157,7 +22157,7 @@
<https://zq3q.org/gp/#op9pjwkde_2020_gp_petit>


-###### {#fczxi_DGR}
+###### {#fczxi_DGR}       lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#fczxi_DGR

# [ecology group 'Deep Green Resistance'](#fczxi_DGR)

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1098 -r1.1099
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/28 15:22:23 1.1098
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/28 18:38:03 1.1099
@@ -22157,6 +22157,38 @@
<https://zq3q.org/gp/#op9pjwkde_2020_gp_petit>


+###### {#fczxi_DGR}
+
+# [ecology group 'Deep Green Resistance'](#fczxi_DGR)
+
+I've been following Derrick Jenson for at least 10 years. I'm now vetting
+"Deep Green Resistance".
+
+[Derrick Jenson | Resistance Radio| interviews Max Wilbert of DRG/**Deep Green Resistance**](https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/tr8dvu/rr_072620.mp3)
+
+> Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.
+
+### 3 part series 'liberal vs radical'
+
+| <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkXrS0NnQM0>
+| <https://youtu.be/7rcxnLO06CA>
+| <https://youtu.be/9PEZKllQKOQ>
+
+# Deep Green Resistance links
+
+<https://deepgreenresistance.org/en/who-we-are/about-deep-green-resistance>
+
+[deepgreenresistance.org](https://deepgreenresistance.org/en/)
+
+<https://deepgreen.ie/>
+
+<https://derrickjensen.org/deep-green-resistance/>
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Green_Resistance>
+
+<https://www.facebook.com/deepgreenresistance>
+
+[Deep Green Resistance | Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/user/DeepGreenResistance/)


:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1097 -r1.1098
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/28 15:20:28 1.1097
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/28 15:22:23 1.1098
@@ -228,6 +228,8 @@
| <http://www.radio4all.net/files/wvought@gmail.com/4318-1-Essential_Dissent_-_Why_We_Defend_China_Against_US_Attacks_81_Min_-19_LUFS.mp3>  
| <http://www.radio4all.net/files/wvought@gmail.com/4318-1-Essential_Dissent_-_Why_We_Defend_China_Against_US_Attacks_81_Min_-24_LUFS.mp3>

+I have only sampled one of the above.
+
---


===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1096 -r1.1097
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/25 18:38:03 1.1096
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/28 15:20:28 1.1097
@@ -219,6 +219,18 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+###### {#eyprx_wkrs_wlrd_china}
+
+[imp podcast series from workers world on China| Essential Dissent  WWP](https://zq3q.org/pco/#eyprx_wkrs_wlrd_china)
+
+| <http://www.radio4all.net/files/wvought@gmail.com/4318-1-Essential_Dissent_-_Why_We_Defend_China_Against_US_Attacks_58_Min_-19_LUFS.mp3>         
+| <http://www.radio4all.net/files/wvought@gmail.com/4318-1-Essential_Dissent_-_Why_We_Defend_China_Against_US_Attacks_58_Min_-24_LUFS.mp3>
+| <http://www.radio4all.net/files/wvought@gmail.com/4318-1-Essential_Dissent_-_Why_We_Defend_China_Against_US_Attacks_81_Min_-19_LUFS.mp3>  
+| <http://www.radio4all.net/files/wvought@gmail.com/4318-1-Essential_Dissent_-_Why_We_Defend_China_Against_US_Attacks_81_Min_-24_LUFS.mp3>
+
+---
+
+
[Who The Democratic And Republican Party Censors Are| ](https://orientalreview.org/2020/07/23/who-the-democratic-and-republican-party-censors-are-for-the-news-you-see-hear/)
:    [Center for Media and Democracy | CMD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEcLLZuXQRo&feature=youtu.be)

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1095 -r1.1096
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/25 12:38:05 1.1095
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/25 18:38:03 1.1096
@@ -219,6 +219,13 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+[Who The Democratic And Republican Party Censors Are| ](https://orientalreview.org/2020/07/23/who-the-democratic-and-republican-party-censors-are-for-the-news-you-see-hear/)
+:    [Center for Media and Democracy | CMD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEcLLZuXQRo&feature=youtu.be)
+
+    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Media_and_Democracy>
+
+---
+
[Ted Rall](https://zq3q.org/pco/#tozma_Ted_Rall_intro)   <https://www.unz.com/trall/10-reasons-i-wont-vote-for-biden/>

[Progressives Should Boycott Biden](https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_ted_rall/the_data_is_clear_progressives_should_boycott_biden)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1094 -r1.1095
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/24 16:38:05 1.1094
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/25 12:38:05 1.1095
@@ -219,6 +219,12 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+[Ted Rall](https://zq3q.org/pco/#tozma_Ted_Rall_intro)   <https://www.unz.com/trall/10-reasons-i-wont-vote-for-biden/>
+
+[Progressives Should Boycott Biden](https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_ted_rall/the_data_is_clear_progressives_should_boycott_biden)
+
+---
+
virologists optimistic! $1 low sensitivity covid test, could drop R significantly if done daily
:   The test exists, but is not a product now. 

@@ -12358,6 +12364,61 @@

<https://www.youtube.com/user/SEPupload>

+###### {#tozma_Ted_Rall_intro}      lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#tozma_Ted_Rall_intro
+
+# [Ted Rall intro ](#tozma_Ted_Rall_intro)  :bio:
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Rall>
+
+<https://twitter.com/TedRall>
+
+<https://rall.com/>
+
+<https://www.gocomics.com/ted-rall>
+
+<https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ted_Rall>
+
+<https://www.creators.com/author/ted-rall>
+
+<http://www.smirkingchimp.com/author/ted-rall>
+
+<https://www.editorialcartoonists.com/cartoonists/rallt/>
+
+<https://www.nndb.com/people/198/000026120/>
+
+<https://www.commondreams.org/author/ted-rall>
+
+## Work by or about ted rall
+
+<https://www.arcamax.com/politics/fromtheleft/tedrall/>
+
+Ted Rall (Author of "Snowden") in Conversation with Paul Constant: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isKS4SxIpE4>
+
+<https://www.amazon.com/Ted-Rall/e/B000APJVX2%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share>
+
+
+#_hide{
+
+[x] open -t ted rall
+open -t g! ted rall
+open -t site: http://wikispooks.com/ ted rall
+open -t w! ted rall
+open -t reddit! ted rall
+open -t site: http://www.sourcewatch.org ted rall
+open -t site: https://everipedia.org ted rall
+open -t site: https://www.historycommons.org/ ted rall
+open -t site: https://www.nndb.com/ ted rall
+open -t site: https://biography.com/ ted rall
+open -t site: https://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/ ted rall
+open -t site: https://www.earnthenecklace.com/ ted rall
+open -t site: https://www.revolvy.com ted rall
+open -t site: https://alchetron.com ted rall
+open -t site: https://zq3q.org/ ted rall
+familiarity:
+#_hide}
+
+
+
###### {#bsyle_David_North_Intro_}

# [David North Intro ](#bsyle_David_North_Intro_)  :bio:
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1093 -r1.1094
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/21 15:38:32 1.1093
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/24 16:38:05 1.1094
@@ -22070,55 +22070,10 @@

# [2020 Green Party Petitioning Venues or Ideas](https://zq3q.org/pco/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit)

+Sorry... I moved this to

+<https://zq3q.org/gp/#op9pjwkde_2020_gp_petit>

-## general Milwaukee ideas
-
-Bay View (53207) beach; Humbolt park - beer garden/tennis courts; 3rd
-ward/MIAD area; Yacht Club area, near Collectivo; East end of Brady street -- then down ped bridge to lake; Bradford
-beach; Shorewood/Oakland Av or Capital Drv; Whitefish Bay - Silver Spring.
-
-The lake front strip from summerfest (easy parking across from main x-fest
-entrance), then loop through the park w/the island, then along lake trail
-past the discovery center, then loop around art museum (great view from top
-terrace), then out east on to shore trail by vets park -- very nice. I'd say
-35% of crowd is from Illinois though.
-
-farmers mkts - west allis, s mke, bay view
-
-churches -- after services
-
-### specific addresses
-
-West Allis Farmers Market, 6501 W National Ave, West Allis, WI 53214, USA 
-
-| On Mon 7/20/20 12:40 -0400 Bryan P wrote:                                                
-| > In 2016 we went to Aldi's stores on Capitol and around the city very productive  
-
-## event calendars
-
-| [WIGP](https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=d2lncC5zb2NpYWxAZ21haWwuY29t)
-| <https://wibailoutpeople.org/>
-| <https://www.reddit.com/r/milwaukee/>
-| [Official WI BLM Events List |goo doc](https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=N3ZtOHZ0bGJzbm1ncGQ2NXNndHByMW9lbzdfMjAyMDA3MTFUMTUzMDAwWiBnbWdwLmNhbEBt&tok=MTgjZ21ncC5jYWxAZ21haWwuY29tY2Q1YzE3OTZiM2RhMWFhYTgzMDliZTE2ZjZmY2MzODVmNWE1Yjk4Ng&ctz=America/Chicago&hl=en&es=1)
-| <https://www.peaceactionwi.org/calendar.html>
-| [reddit mke events](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ghbpt0q0sbi5cfq6v09bint1co@group.calendar.google.com)
-| old but has value - <https://zq3q.org/gp/#uodtz_PETITIONING_OPPORTUNITIES>     see also dm 4zax "PETITIONING OPPORTUNITIES"
-
-2nd tier
-
-| <https://www.milwaukee365.com/>
-| <https://www.citizenactionwi.org/events/>
-| 
-| <https://www.travelwisconsin.com/events>
-| <https://www.wisconline.com/>
-| not much here <https://www.visitmilwaukee.org/events/>
-| <http://uppitywis.org/calendar>
-| <http://www.urbanecologycenter.org/events.html>
-| <http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/page/event/search_simple> 
-| <http://madpeace.org/event/calendar?PHPSESSID=ea4b68e70b1afd1fd512d7d7dfecc933>
-| <http://www.marquette.edu/peacemaking/>
-| <http://grassrootssouthshore.org> 



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diff -w -u -r1.1092 -r1.1093
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/20 12:38:06 1.1092
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/21 15:38:32 1.1093
@@ -22068,7 +22068,7 @@

###### {#jwkde_2020_gp_petit}        https://zq3q.org/pco/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit

-# [2020 Green Party Petitioning Venues or Ideas](https://zq3q.org/gp/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit)
+# [2020 Green Party Petitioning Venues or Ideas](https://zq3q.org/pco/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit)



@@ -22092,6 +22092,9 @@

West Allis Farmers Market, 6501 W National Ave, West Allis, WI 53214, USA 

+| On Mon 7/20/20 12:40 -0400 Bryan P wrote:                                                
+| > In 2016 we went to Aldi's stores on Capitol and around the city very productive  
+
## event calendars

| [WIGP](https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=d2lncC5zb2NpYWxAZ21haWwuY29t)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1091 -r1.1092
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/19 01:07:52 1.1091
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/20 12:38:06 1.1092
@@ -22075,7 +22075,7 @@
## general Milwaukee ideas

Bay View (53207) beach; Humbolt park - beer garden/tennis courts; 3rd
-ward/MIAD area; Yacht Club area, near Collectivo; Brady street; Bradford
+ward/MIAD area; Yacht Club area, near Collectivo; East end of Brady street -- then down ped bridge to lake; Bradford
beach; Shorewood/Oakland Av or Capital Drv; Whitefish Bay - Silver Spring.

The lake front strip from summerfest (easy parking across from main x-fest
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diff -w -u -r1.1090 -r1.1091
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/18 20:45:47 1.1090
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/19 01:07:52 1.1091
@@ -22070,22 +22070,28 @@

# [2020 Green Party Petitioning Venues or Ideas](https://zq3q.org/gp/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit)

-Sorry, these slant towards Milwaukee area.

-## today Sat 18 Jul 2020 
-
-*   When Sat Jul 18, 2020 1pm – 6pm -05:00
-    Where West Allis Farmers Market, 6501 W National Ave, West Allis, WI 53214, USA 

## general Milwaukee ideas

-bay view beach, humbolt park, 3rd ward/MIAD area, brady street, bradford
-beach, shorewood, whitefish bay,
+Bay View (53207) beach; Humbolt park - beer garden/tennis courts; 3rd
+ward/MIAD area; Yacht Club area, near Collectivo; Brady street; Bradford
+beach; Shorewood/Oakland Av or Capital Drv; Whitefish Bay - Silver Spring.
+
+The lake front strip from summerfest (easy parking across from main x-fest
+entrance), then loop through the park w/the island, then along lake trail
+past the discovery center, then loop around art museum (great view from top
+terrace), then out east on to shore trail by vets park -- very nice. I'd say
+35% of crowd is from Illinois though.

farmers mkts - west allis, s mke, bay view

churches -- after services

+### specific addresses
+
+West Allis Farmers Market, 6501 W National Ave, West Allis, WI 53214, USA 
+
## event calendars

| [WIGP](https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=d2lncC5zb2NpYWxAZ21haWwuY29t)
@@ -22096,7 +22102,7 @@
| [reddit mke events](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ghbpt0q0sbi5cfq6v09bint1co@group.calendar.google.com)
| old but has value - <https://zq3q.org/gp/#uodtz_PETITIONING_OPPORTUNITIES>     see also dm 4zax "PETITIONING OPPORTUNITIES"

-less value now:
+2nd tier

| <https://www.milwaukee365.com/>
| <https://www.citizenactionwi.org/events/>
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diff -w -u -r1.1089 -r1.1090
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/18 20:38:06 1.1089
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/18 20:45:47 1.1090
@@ -22068,7 +22068,7 @@

###### {#jwkde_2020_gp_petit}        https://zq3q.org/pco/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit

-# [2020 Green Party Petitioning Venues or Ideas](https://zq3q.org/pco/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit)
+# [2020 Green Party Petitioning Venues or Ideas](https://zq3q.org/gp/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit)

Sorry, these slant towards Milwaukee area.

@@ -22089,10 +22089,15 @@
## event calendars

| [WIGP](https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=d2lncC5zb2NpYWxAZ21haWwuY29t)
-| <https://www.peaceactionwi.org/calendar.html>
+| <https://wibailoutpeople.org/>
| <https://www.reddit.com/r/milwaukee/>
+| [Official WI BLM Events List |goo doc](https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=N3ZtOHZ0bGJzbm1ncGQ2NXNndHByMW9lbzdfMjAyMDA3MTFUMTUzMDAwWiBnbWdwLmNhbEBt&tok=MTgjZ21ncC5jYWxAZ21haWwuY29tY2Q1YzE3OTZiM2RhMWFhYTgzMDliZTE2ZjZmY2MzODVmNWE1Yjk4Ng&ctz=America/Chicago&hl=en&es=1)
+| <https://www.peaceactionwi.org/calendar.html>
| [reddit mke events](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ghbpt0q0sbi5cfq6v09bint1co@group.calendar.google.com)
-| old but has value - <https://zq3q.org/pco/#uodtz_PETITIONING_OPPORTUNITIES>     see also dm 4zax "PETITIONING OPPORTUNITIES"
+| old but has value - <https://zq3q.org/gp/#uodtz_PETITIONING_OPPORTUNITIES>     see also dm 4zax "PETITIONING OPPORTUNITIES"
+
+less value now:
+
| <https://www.milwaukee365.com/>
| <https://www.citizenactionwi.org/events/>
| 
@@ -22106,6 +22111,8 @@
| <http://www.marquette.edu/peacemaking/>
| <http://grassrootssouthshore.org> 

+
+
:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
<br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1088 -r1.1089
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/18 20:27:12 1.1088
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/18 20:38:06 1.1089
@@ -22066,9 +22066,9 @@

#_hide}

-###### {#jwkde_2020_gp_petit}
+###### {#jwkde_2020_gp_petit}        https://zq3q.org/pco/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit

-# [2020 Green Party Petitioning Venues or  Ideas](#jwkde_2020_gp_petit)
+# [2020 Green Party Petitioning Venues or Ideas](https://zq3q.org/pco/#jwkde_2020_gp_petit)

Sorry, these slant towards Milwaukee area.

@@ -22088,6 +22088,7 @@

## event calendars

+| [WIGP](https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=d2lncC5zb2NpYWxAZ21haWwuY29t)
| <https://www.peaceactionwi.org/calendar.html>
| <https://www.reddit.com/r/milwaukee/>
| [reddit mke events](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ghbpt0q0sbi5cfq6v09bint1co@group.calendar.google.com)
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diff -w -u -r1.1087 -r1.1088
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/17 16:38:06 1.1087
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/18 20:27:12 1.1088
@@ -22066,6 +22066,45 @@

#_hide}

+###### {#jwkde_2020_gp_petit}
+
+# [2020 Green Party Petitioning Venues or  Ideas](#jwkde_2020_gp_petit)
+
+Sorry, these slant towards Milwaukee area.
+
+## today Sat 18 Jul 2020 
+
+*   When Sat Jul 18, 2020 1pm – 6pm -05:00
+    Where West Allis Farmers Market, 6501 W National Ave, West Allis, WI 53214, USA 
+
+## general Milwaukee ideas
+
+bay view beach, humbolt park, 3rd ward/MIAD area, brady street, bradford
+beach, shorewood, whitefish bay,
+
+farmers mkts - west allis, s mke, bay view
+
+churches -- after services
+
+## event calendars
+
+| <https://www.peaceactionwi.org/calendar.html>
+| <https://www.reddit.com/r/milwaukee/>
+| [reddit mke events](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ghbpt0q0sbi5cfq6v09bint1co@group.calendar.google.com)
+| old but has value - <https://zq3q.org/pco/#uodtz_PETITIONING_OPPORTUNITIES>     see also dm 4zax "PETITIONING OPPORTUNITIES"
+| <https://www.milwaukee365.com/>
+| <https://www.citizenactionwi.org/events/>
+| 
+| <https://www.travelwisconsin.com/events>
+| <https://www.wisconline.com/>
+| not much here <https://www.visitmilwaukee.org/events/>
+| <http://uppitywis.org/calendar>
+| <http://www.urbanecologycenter.org/events.html>
+| <http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/page/event/search_simple> 
+| <http://madpeace.org/event/calendar?PHPSESSID=ea4b68e70b1afd1fd512d7d7dfecc933>
+| <http://www.marquette.edu/peacemaking/>
+| <http://grassrootssouthshore.org> 
+
:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
<br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1086 -r1.1087
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/17 12:10:09 1.1086
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/17 16:38:06 1.1087
@@ -224,7 +224,7 @@

    [This Week in Virology | mp3](http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV640.mp3?dest-id=25528)

-    02:22 Guest researcher Michael Mina introduced.
+    02:22 Guest researcher Michael Mina introduced. 13:37 - 15:04+ : critical section.

    Strongly suggest you listen/re-listen  . [Show notes](https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-640/)

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diff -w -u -r1.1085 -r1.1086
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/17 11:43:38 1.1085
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/17 12:10:09 1.1086
@@ -226,7 +226,10 @@

    02:22 Guest researcher Michael Mina introduced.

-    Strongly suggest you listen  . [Show notes](https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-640/)
+    Strongly suggest you listen/re-listen  . [Show notes](https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-640/)
+
+    The test is quick and can be done at home. It does not catch early covid, but when
+    it indicates covid, Michael Mina claims it is accurate and self quarantine should start.

---

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diff -w -u -r1.1084 -r1.1085
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/16 18:38:03 1.1084
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/17 11:43:38 1.1085
@@ -219,6 +219,17 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+virologists optimistic! $1 low sensitivity covid test, could drop R significantly if done daily
+:   The test exists, but is not a product now. 
+
+    [This Week in Virology|mp3](http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV640.mp3?dest-id=25528)
+
+    02:22 Guest researcher Michael Mina introduced.
+
+    Strongly suggest you listen  . [Show notes](https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-640/)
+
+---
+
Michigan Goes to Supreme Court to Reverse Laws Easing Initiative Signature Gathering Restrictions During Pandemic
:   <https://electionlawblog.org/?p=113002>

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diff -w -u -r1.1083 -r1.1084
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/16 17:13:55 1.1083
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/16 18:38:03 1.1084
@@ -222,7 +222,7 @@
Michigan Goes to Supreme Court to Reverse Laws Easing Initiative Signature Gathering Restrictions During Pandemic
:   <https://electionlawblog.org/?p=113002>

-    [the legal petition/pdf | No. 20A1 ](https://electionlawblog.org/?p=113002)
+    [The legal petition/pdf | No. 20A1 ](https://electionlawblog.org/?p=113002)

---

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diff -w -u -r1.1082 -r1.1083
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/15 11:37:59 1.1082
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/16 17:13:55 1.1083
@@ -219,6 +219,35 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+Michigan Goes to Supreme Court to Reverse Laws Easing Initiative Signature Gathering Restrictions During Pandemic
+:   <https://electionlawblog.org/?p=113002>
+
+    [the legal petition/pdf | No. 20A1 ](https://electionlawblog.org/?p=113002)
+
+---
+
+MA Initiative for Ranked Choice Voting Qualifies for November 2020 Ballot
+:   <https://ballot-access.org/2020/07/13/massachusetts-initiative-for-ranked-choice-voting-qualifies-for-november-2020-ballot/>
+
+---
+
+Federal District Court Opinion Extending the Time for Oregon Initiative Proponents to Collect Signatures
+:   <https://electionlawblog.org/?p=113042>
+
+    > Plaintiffs argue that these requirements are unconstitutional as applied
+    > during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic and related government regulations
+    > that limit social interaction. Defendant Beverly Clarno, Oregon’s Secretary
+    > of State, counters that the initiative requirements are constitutional and
+    > that pandemic- related regulations do not alter their constitutionality.
+
+---
+
+Ballot Measure Featuring RCV Submitted in North Dakota
+:   <https://www.fairvote.org/ballot_measure_featuring_rcv_submitted_in_north_dakota>
+
+---
+
+
Acceptance speeches by Angela Walker and Howie Hawkins. Good intro/background on Walker.
:   <https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/qo13f9/TODAYS_NEWS_071320_EM_limited.mp3>

@@ -239,7 +268,7 @@
###### {#ojdak_slavery_reparations_US}

# [slavery reparations | 2 podcasts](https://zq3q.org/pco/#ojdak_slavery_reparations_US)
-:   [William A. Darity Jr, Kirsten Mullen, Thomas Craemer |radioopensource]<https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/media.blubrry.com/radioopensource/content.blubrry.com/radioopensource/200709-OS-PODCAST-Reparations.mp3>
+:   [William A. Darity Jr, Kirsten Mullen, Thomas Craemer |radioopensource](https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/media.blubrry.com/radioopensource/content.blubrry.com/radioopensource/200709-OS-PODCAST-Reparations.mp3)

    [Richard Epstein, Chicago Law, NYU Law, and Hoover Inst](https://audioboom.com/posts/7628978.mp3?modified=1594348038&source=rss&stitched=1&xkey=_:16615:e703a3fd916acd08ff46c7ba2d80f304b5afedb8)

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diff -w -u -r1.1081 -r1.1082
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/11 12:38:06 1.1081
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/15 11:37:59 1.1082
@@ -219,6 +219,23 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+Acceptance speeches by Angela Walker and Howie Hawkins. Good intro/background on Walker.
+:   <https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/qo13f9/TODAYS_NEWS_071320_EM_limited.mp3>
+
+---
+
+<https://blackagendaradio.podbean.com/mf/play/ams9j2/Bar_071320.mp3>
+:   42:10 Representing Green Party, Margaret Kimberly 
+
+    49:11 Ajamu Sibeko Baraka
+
+---
+
+List of discredited foreign policy NYT reporters by Scott Horton.
+:   Skip in 17:41 <https://dissentradio.com/radio/20_07_10_porter.mp3>
+
+---
+
###### {#ojdak_slavery_reparations_US}

# [slavery reparations | 2 podcasts](https://zq3q.org/pco/#ojdak_slavery_reparations_US)
@@ -226,7 +243,7 @@

    [Richard Epstein, Chicago Law, NYU Law, and Hoover Inst](https://audioboom.com/posts/7628978.mp3?modified=1594348038&source=rss&stitched=1&xkey=_:16615:e703a3fd916acd08ff46c7ba2d80f304b5afedb8)

---
+---

File under "anti-spoiler" article -- boycott Biden | Ted Rall
:   <https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/03/the-data-is-clear-progressives-should-boycott-biden/>
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diff -w -u -r1.1080 -r1.1081
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/07 14:38:03 1.1080
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/11 12:38:06 1.1081
@@ -219,6 +219,15 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+###### {#ojdak_slavery_reparations_US}
+
+# [slavery reparations | 2 podcasts](https://zq3q.org/pco/#ojdak_slavery_reparations_US)
+:   [William A. Darity Jr, Kirsten Mullen, Thomas Craemer |radioopensource]<https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/media.blubrry.com/radioopensource/content.blubrry.com/radioopensource/200709-OS-PODCAST-Reparations.mp3>
+
+    [Richard Epstein, Chicago Law, NYU Law, and Hoover Inst](https://audioboom.com/posts/7628978.mp3?modified=1594348038&source=rss&stitched=1&xkey=_:16615:e703a3fd916acd08ff46c7ba2d80f304b5afedb8)
+
+--
+
File under "anti-spoiler" article -- boycott Biden | Ted Rall
:   <https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/03/the-data-is-clear-progressives-should-boycott-biden/>

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diff -w -u -r1.1079 -r1.1080
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/04 12:38:06 1.1079
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/07 14:38:03 1.1080
@@ -2830,7 +2830,7 @@

###### {#ccgiu_Don_Debar_CPR}

-# [Don Debar CPR intro](#ccgiu_Don_Debar_CPR)     //_h :reporter :bio:
+# [Don Debar CPR intro](#ccgiu_Don_Debar_CPR)     //_h :reporter :bio:   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#ccgiu_Don_Debar_CPR

[cpr news podcast](https://zq3q.org/pco/podcasts.conf._full.html#hrxyc_Don_Debar_CPRNEWS)

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diff -w -u -r1.1078 -r1.1079
--- site.body.markdown  2020/07/01 20:38:05 1.1078
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/04 12:38:06 1.1079
@@ -219,6 +219,11 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+File under "anti-spoiler" article -- boycott Biden | Ted Rall
+:   <https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/03/the-data-is-clear-progressives-should-boycott-biden/>
+
+---
+
Joe Lauria on Assange |detailed background, longish, re-listen to this!
:   [interview M Flowers/Kevin Z: skip in 28:38](https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_29_20.mp3?dest-id=122538)

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diff -w -u -r1.1077 -r1.1078
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/30 22:38:04 1.1077
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/07/01 20:38:05 1.1078
@@ -21974,6 +21974,22 @@

<https://councilforthenationalinterest.org/?p=5359>

+
+---
+
+<https://consortiumnews.com/2020/06/29/ray-mcgovern-russiagates-last-gasp/>
+
+> Former CIA Director William Casey said:  “We’ll know when our
+> disinformation program is complete, when everything the American public
+> believes is false.”
+> 
+> Casey made that remark at the first cabinet meeting in the White House under
+> President Ronald Reagan in early 1981, according to Barbara Honegger, who was
+> assistant to the chief domestic policy adviser.  Honegger was there, took
+> notes, and told then Senior White House correspondent Sarah McClendon, who in
+> turn made it public.
+
+
#_hide}

:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
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diff -w -u -r1.1076 -r1.1077
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/30 20:38:05 1.1076
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/30 22:38:04 1.1077
@@ -224,11 +224,13 @@

---

-1960s Indonesian Genocide | Rania Khalek & Kevin Gosztola 
+1960s Indonesian Genocide | Rania Khalek & Kevin Gosztola interview of Vincent Bevins
:   <https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/unauthorizeddisclosure/S7E24.mp3?dest-id=183202>

    <https://fair.org/home/no-us-didnt-stand-by-indonesian-genocide-it-actively-participated/>

+    "Vincent Bevins, the author of **The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program That Shaped Our World**"
+
---

Jun 17 update on Covid, by TWIV virologist panel.
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diff -w -u -r1.1075 -r1.1076
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/30 18:38:03 1.1075
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/30 20:38:05 1.1076
@@ -219,11 +219,18 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-Joe Laria on Assange |detailed background, longish, re-listen to this!
+Joe Lauria on Assange |detailed background, longish, re-listen to this!
:   [interview M Flowers/Kevin Z: skip in 28:38](https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_29_20.mp3?dest-id=122538)

---

+1960s Indonesian Genocide | Rania Khalek & Kevin Gosztola 
+:   <https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/unauthorizeddisclosure/S7E24.mp3?dest-id=183202>
+
+    <https://fair.org/home/no-us-didnt-stand-by-indonesian-genocide-it-actively-participated/>
+
+---
+
Jun 17 update on Covid, by TWIV virologist panel.
:   <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV628.mp3?dest-id=25528>

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diff -w -u -r1.1074 -r1.1075
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/30 12:38:05 1.1074
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/30 18:38:03 1.1075
@@ -219,6 +219,11 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+Joe Laria on Assange |detailed background, longish, re-listen to this!
+:   [interview M Flowers/Kevin Z: skip in 28:38](https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_29_20.mp3?dest-id=122538)
+
+---
+
Jun 17 update on Covid, by TWIV virologist panel.
:   <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV628.mp3?dest-id=25528>

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1073 -r1.1074
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/27 00:38:05 1.1073
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/30 12:38:05 1.1074
@@ -21934,8 +21934,21 @@
> and attacks leftists. Fittingly, the website was flooded with alt-right and
> conspiracist videos.

+###### {#gegew_PeerTube}
+
+# [PeerTube](#gegew_PeerTube)
+
+
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube>

+<https://joinpeertube.org/>  | "30,000 users... An open-source, free/libre licence code" 
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framasoft>
+
+forum: <https://framacolibri.org/c/peertube>
+
+---
+
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services>

#_hide{
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diff -w -u -r1.1072 -r1.1073
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/26 14:38:04 1.1072
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/27 00:38:05 1.1073
@@ -21807,9 +21807,9 @@
<https://marchondnc.org/>


-###### {#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms
+###### {#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms} 

-# [less censored video platforms](#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms)
+# [less censored video platforms | youtube alternatives](#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms)  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services>

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diff -w -u -r1.1071 -r1.1072
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/26 12:38:05 1.1071
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/26 14:38:04 1.1072
@@ -21906,7 +21906,7 @@

## LBRY <https://lbry.tv/>

-Small, young. No mobile app. MIT? license/open source.
+Small, young. Unproven mobile app? MIT? license/open source.

<https://lbry.com/news/lbrytv>

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diff -w -u -r1.1070 -r1.1071
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/24 00:38:05 1.1070
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/26 12:38:05 1.1071
@@ -21828,6 +21828,11 @@

## <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive>

+Wonderful and well respected site, but not designed to compete directly with youtube.
+More of a great public service, than a mass audience marketing platform.
+
+### The license looks good.
+
> <https://archive.org/about/terms.php>

> > Because the content of the Collections comes from around the world and from
@@ -21845,7 +21850,13 @@

## <https://d.tube/>

-Seems new, no wikipedia page. You can not delete content.
+Seems new, no wikipedia page. 
+
+<https://twitter.com/DTube_Official>
+
+<https://www.reddit.com/r/dtube/>
+
+Because of the block chain, distributed storage model you can not delete content.

<https://www.valleyarm.com/so-what-is-dtube/>

@@ -21853,10 +21864,6 @@
> it stays online forever. This also means users need to be 100% confident in
> the content they upload because they cannot edit the video afterwards.

-<https://twitter.com/DTube_Official>
-
-<https://www.reddit.com/r/dtube/>
-
<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/reasons-switch-youtube-to-dtube/>

<https://blockchain.news/news/will-dtube-replace-youtube-the-5-things-you-need-to-know>
@@ -21905,12 +21912,12 @@

<https://www.reddit.com/r/lbry/>

+<https://twitter.com/LBRYio>
+
<https://lbry.com/faq/different-bitchute>

[join discord chat](https://lbry.org/index.php?title=Welcome&_ga=2.231717978.437482463.1592668128-393397177.1592668128)

-<https://twitter.com/LBRYio>
-
<https://www.reddit.com/r/BitTube/comments/gbr3uf/my_reasons_for_not_liking_lbry_and_why_i_dont/>

## about to launch: <https://howdoo.io/faq/>
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diff -w -u -r1.1069 -r1.1070
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 20:38:05 1.1069
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/24 00:38:05 1.1070
@@ -4387,7 +4387,7 @@

###### {#gavnv_Stats_Misc}

-# [Stats and Lists - Misc](#gavnv_Stats_Misc)
+# [Stats and Lists - Misc](#gavnv_Stats_Misc)  :stats:=stats:  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#gavnv_Stats_Misc

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population>

@@ -4405,6 +4405,10 @@

<https://ourworldindata.org/>

+## Israel
+
+<https://councilforthenationalinterest.org/?page_id=2>
+
## Defense and Military

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_aid>
@@ -8518,6 +8522,7 @@

### [Kiev's Maidan Revolution: Victoria Nuland's Coup to Bring Ukraine into NATO by Ray McGovern](http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/kievs-maidan-revolution-victoria-nulands-coup-bring-ukraine-nato/ri2261)

+
### Thu 14 Apr 2011

[video Ray McGovern Speaks Out on Bradley Manning Torture the Constitution and War](https://youtu.be/U5Bdl0c5Ev4)
@@ -21931,6 +21936,9 @@
BitChute / LBRY.com / Minds.com / YouTube
 Peertube

+Victoria Nuland intro
+
+<https://councilforthenationalinterest.org/?p=5359>

#_hide}

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diff -w -u -r1.1068 -r1.1069
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 18:38:03 1.1068
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 20:38:05 1.1069
@@ -21894,6 +21894,8 @@

## LBRY <https://lbry.tv/>

+Small, young. No mobile app. MIT? license/open source.
+
<https://lbry.com/news/lbrytv>

<https://www.reddit.com/r/lbry/>
@@ -21906,6 +21908,8 @@

<https://www.reddit.com/r/BitTube/comments/gbr3uf/my_reasons_for_not_liking_lbry_and_why_i_dont/>

+## about to launch: <https://howdoo.io/faq/>
+
## PewTube

new defunct? "In 2018, the site was quietly taken offline."
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diff -w -u -r1.1067 -r1.1068
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 16:38:05 1.1067
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 18:38:03 1.1068
@@ -21898,7 +21898,9 @@

<https://www.reddit.com/r/lbry/>

-[chat](https://lbry.org/index.php?title=Welcome&_ga=2.231717978.437482463.1592668128-393397177.1592668128)
+<https://lbry.com/faq/different-bitchute>
+
+[join discord chat](https://lbry.org/index.php?title=Welcome&_ga=2.231717978.437482463.1592668128-393397177.1592668128)

<https://twitter.com/LBRYio>

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diff -w -u -r1.1066 -r1.1067
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 14:38:03 1.1066
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 16:38:05 1.1067
@@ -21892,7 +21892,15 @@

---

-## <https://lbry.tv/>
+## LBRY <https://lbry.tv/>
+
+<https://lbry.com/news/lbrytv>
+
+<https://www.reddit.com/r/lbry/>
+
+[chat](https://lbry.org/index.php?title=Welcome&_ga=2.231717978.437482463.1592668128-393397177.1592668128)
+
+<https://twitter.com/LBRYio>

<https://www.reddit.com/r/BitTube/comments/gbr3uf/my_reasons_for_not_liking_lbry_and_why_i_dont/>

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diff -w -u -r1.1065 -r1.1066
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 13:34:00 1.1065
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 14:38:03 1.1066
@@ -21819,6 +21819,8 @@
> accommodates far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists. The Southern
> Poverty Law Center says the site hosts "hate-fueled material".

+<https://www.dailydot.com/upstream/bitchute/>
+
## <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive>

> <https://archive.org/about/terms.php>
@@ -21860,14 +21862,52 @@

## bittube

+<https://bittube.tv/about>
+
+> This platform is the successor to bit.tube, launched in mid 2018 [...]
+
+<https://bittube.tv/about/history>
+
+> BitTube is a small company of about 15 people located in Tenerife, Spain. It
+> was founded by CEO Saber Maram and it has been entirely self-funded from its
+> inception [...]
+
+<https://kb.bittube.app/>
+
<https://bittube.video/>

+<https://twitter.com/BitTubeApp>
+
+<https://www.reddit.com/r/BitTube/>
+
+<https://blog.bittubeapp.com/>
+
+<https://bittube.app/> browser extension
+
+<https://medium.com/crypto-space/bittube-may-19-2020-90ff64aa0ef3>
+
<https://www.coinbureau.com/review/bittube-tube/>

<https://www.reddit.com/r/BitChute/comments/91655v/bitchute_not_viable_bittube_is_the_future_of/>

---

+## <https://lbry.tv/>
+
+<https://www.reddit.com/r/BitTube/comments/gbr3uf/my_reasons_for_not_liking_lbry_and_why_i_dont/>
+
+## PewTube
+
+new defunct? "In 2018, the site was quietly taken offline."
+
+<https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PewTube>
+
+> pew.tube was a YouTube alternative operated by Anthony Mayfield with the
+> self-proclaimed intention of being censorship-free.[3] This appears to be
+> just a dogwhistle, as the creator frequently supported alt-right positions
+> and attacks leftists. Fittingly, the website was flooded with alt-right and
+> conspiracist videos.
+
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services>
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diff -w -u -r1.1064 -r1.1065
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 12:38:05 1.1064
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 13:34:00 1.1065
@@ -21802,12 +21802,15 @@
<https://marchondnc.org/>


-###### {#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms}
+###### {#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms

# [less censored video platforms](#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms)

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services>

+## survey articles
+
+<http://www.earnwithanish.com/sites-like-youtube-without-censorship/>

## <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute>

@@ -21833,7 +21836,37 @@
My 10 min web search suggests there are few complaints now about archive.org 
censoring or removing videos.

-<https://d.tube/>
+## <https://d.tube/>
+
+Seems new, no wikipedia page. You can not delete content.
+
+<https://www.valleyarm.com/so-what-is-dtube/>
+
+> You currently cannot delete a video from your channel. Once it’s uploaded,
+> it stays online forever. This also means users need to be 100% confident in
+> the content they upload because they cannot edit the video afterwards.
+
+<https://twitter.com/DTube_Official>
+
+<https://www.reddit.com/r/dtube/>
+
+<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/reasons-switch-youtube-to-dtube/>
+
+<https://blockchain.news/news/will-dtube-replace-youtube-the-5-things-you-need-to-know>
+
+### <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steemit>
+
+<https://twitter.com/steemit>
+
+## bittube
+
+<https://bittube.video/>
+
+<https://www.coinbureau.com/review/bittube-tube/>
+
+<https://www.reddit.com/r/BitChute/comments/91655v/bitchute_not_viable_bittube_is_the_future_of/>
+
+---

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube>

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diff -w -u -r1.1063 -r1.1064
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 22:38:03 1.1063
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/20 12:38:05 1.1064
@@ -21833,6 +21833,7 @@
My 10 min web search suggests there are few complaints now about archive.org 
censoring or removing videos.

+<https://d.tube/>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube>

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diff -w -u -r1.1062 -r1.1063
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 20:38:06 1.1062
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 22:38:03 1.1063
@@ -21808,17 +21808,36 @@

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services>

-<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services>

-<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute>
+## <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute>

> BitChute is a video hosting service founded in 2017. It was created to allow
-> video uploaders to avoid content rules enforced on YouTube.[2] The platform
-> accommodates far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists.[8] The Southern
+> video uploaders to avoid content rules enforced on YouTube. The platform
+> accommodates far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists. The Southern
> Poverty Law Center says the site hosts "hate-fueled material".

+## <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive>
+
+> <https://archive.org/about/terms.php>
+
+> > Because the content of the Collections comes from around the world and from
+> > many different sectors, the Collections may contain information that might
+> > be deemed offensive, disturbing, pornographic, racist, sexist, bizarre,
+> > misleading, fraudulent, or otherwise objectionable. The Archive does not
+> > endorse or sponsor any content in the Collections, nor does it guarantee or
+> > warrant that the content available in the Collections is accurate, complete,
+> > noninfringing, or legally accessible in your jurisdiction, and you agree that
+> > you are solely responsible for abiding by all laws and regulations that may be
+> > applicable to the viewing of the content.
+
+My 10 min web search suggests there are few complaints now about archive.org 
+censoring or removing videos.
+
+
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube>

+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services>
+
#_hide{

BitChute / LBRY.com / Minds.com / YouTube
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1061 -r1.1062
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 14:38:03 1.1061
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 20:38:06 1.1062
@@ -21802,6 +21802,30 @@
<https://marchondnc.org/>


+###### {#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms}
+
+# [less censored video platforms](#hogfu_less_censored_video_platforms)
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services>
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services>
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute>
+
+> BitChute is a video hosting service founded in 2017. It was created to allow
+> video uploaders to avoid content rules enforced on YouTube.[2] The platform
+> accommodates far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists.[8] The Southern
+> Poverty Law Center says the site hosts "hate-fueled material".
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube>
+
+#_hide{
+
+BitChute / LBRY.com / Minds.com / YouTube
+ Peertube
+
+
+#_hide}

:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1060 -r1.1061
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 10:33:36 1.1060
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 14:38:03 1.1061
@@ -219,6 +219,13 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+Jun 17 update on Covid, by TWIV virologist panel.
+:   <http://traffic.libsyn.com/twiv/TWiV628.mp3?dest-id=25528>
+
+    ( This Week in Virology: <https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/> )
+
+---
+
Reps. Bowen, Brostoff: Joint statement on incident at Speedway gas station in Menomonee Falls.
:   [press release June 2020](https://www.wispolitics.com/2020/reps-bowen-brostoff-joint-statement-on-incident-at-speedway-gas-station-in-menomonee-falls/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=reps-bowen-brostoff-joint-statement-on-incident-at-speedway-gas-station-in-menomonee-falls)

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diff -w -u -r1.1059 -r1.1060
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 10:30:41 1.1059
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 10:33:36 1.1060
@@ -219,7 +219,7 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-Reps. Bowen, Brostoff: Joint statement on incident at Speedway gas station in Menomonee Falls:
+Reps. Bowen, Brostoff: Joint statement on incident at Speedway gas station in Menomonee Falls.
:   [press release June 2020](https://www.wispolitics.com/2020/reps-bowen-brostoff-joint-statement-on-incident-at-speedway-gas-station-in-menomonee-falls/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=reps-bowen-brostoff-joint-statement-on-incident-at-speedway-gas-station-in-menomonee-falls)

> “What happened at that gas station last night was racist, plain and
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diff -w -u -r1.1058 -r1.1059
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 10:29:54 1.1058
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 10:30:41 1.1059
@@ -222,16 +222,16 @@
Reps. Bowen, Brostoff: Joint statement on incident at Speedway gas station in Menomonee Falls:
:   [press release June 2020](https://www.wispolitics.com/2020/reps-bowen-brostoff-joint-statement-on-incident-at-speedway-gas-station-in-menomonee-falls/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=reps-bowen-brostoff-joint-statement-on-incident-at-speedway-gas-station-in-menomonee-falls)

-    “What happened at that gas station last night was racist, plain and
-    simple. I’m calling on the people of Menomonee Falls to acknowledge the
-    racism in their community and work as hard as possible to make their city
-    welcoming to everyone. In light of the recent violent comments and hostility
-    shown towards the Black community by a number of individuals, including some
-    of their own local elected officials, Menomonee Falls has a lot of work to
-    do. Black people in 2020 shouldn’t have to worry about a Trustee joking
-    about police using live ammunition on protesters, or something as simple
-    as trying to patronize a store without being turned away because of their
-    race,” said Rep. Brostoff.
+> “What happened at that gas station last night was racist, plain and
+> simple. I’m calling on the people of Menomonee Falls to acknowledge the
+> racism in their community and work as hard as possible to make their city
+> welcoming to everyone. In light of the recent violent comments and hostility
+> shown towards the Black community by a number of individuals, including some
+> of their own local elected officials, Menomonee Falls has a lot of work to
+> do. Black people in 2020 shouldn’t have to worry about a Trustee joking
+> about police using live ammunition on protesters, or something as simple
+> as trying to patronize a store without being turned away because of their
+> race,” said Rep. Brostoff.

---

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diff -w -u -r1.1057 -r1.1058
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/18 22:38:03 1.1057
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/19 10:29:54 1.1058
@@ -219,6 +219,30 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+Reps. Bowen, Brostoff: Joint statement on incident at Speedway gas station in Menomonee Falls:
+:   [press release June 2020](https://www.wispolitics.com/2020/reps-bowen-brostoff-joint-statement-on-incident-at-speedway-gas-station-in-menomonee-falls/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=reps-bowen-brostoff-joint-statement-on-incident-at-speedway-gas-station-in-menomonee-falls)
+
+    “What happened at that gas station last night was racist, plain and
+    simple. I’m calling on the people of Menomonee Falls to acknowledge the
+    racism in their community and work as hard as possible to make their city
+    welcoming to everyone. In light of the recent violent comments and hostility
+    shown towards the Black community by a number of individuals, including some
+    of their own local elected officials, Menomonee Falls has a lot of work to
+    do. Black people in 2020 shouldn’t have to worry about a Trustee joking
+    about police using live ammunition on protesters, or something as simple
+    as trying to patronize a store without being turned away because of their
+    race,” said Rep. Brostoff.
+
+---
+
+Recent citizen-action [Battleground WI](https://soundcloud.com/citizen-action-of-wi) discussions on #GeorgeFloyd
+
+> | <http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/842769385-citizen-action-of-wi-b447.mp3>
+> | <http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/838587064-citizen-action-of-wi-bg446.mp3>
+> | <http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/834371476-citizen-action-of-wi-bg445.mp3>
+
+---
+
New to me: 
:   <https://progressive.international/about/en>

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diff -w -u -r1.1056 -r1.1057
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/18 12:38:06 1.1056
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/18 22:38:03 1.1057
@@ -21762,6 +21762,16 @@
#_hide}


+###### {#yfgaq_marchonthednc2020}
+
+# [marchonthednc2020](#yfgaq_marchonthednc2020)
+
+<https://www.facebook.com/MarchOnTheDNC2020>
+
+<https://marchondnc.org/>
+
+
+
:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
<br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1055 -r1.1056
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/17 16:50:39 1.1055
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/18 12:38:06 1.1056
@@ -21694,6 +21694,74 @@

[How Coronavirus (COVID19) Kills Some People (But Not Others) - I'm a Lung Doctor (MEDICAL TRUTH) |youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV8wWhjTKRU)

+
+# Aspects of Russian Communism and Why Communism in the West Would Be Different, by Gaither Stewart
+
+<https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2020/06/17/aspects-of-russian-communism-and-why-communism-in-the-west-would-be-different-by-gaither-stewart/>
+
+> The Mongol (Tartar) domination of Russia (1240-1480) is considered
+> even more ruinous than Western imperialism of our times. The Mongols
+> brought the physical destruction, occupation and colonization of much
+> of the known world of then. Militarily, the Mongol-Tartar invasion was
+> devastating, its historical effect ambivalent and long-range significance
+> immeasurable. Berdyaev (born Kiev, Russia, 1874, died, Clamart, France,
+> 1948) did not witness the extent of superpower U.S. imperialism but he knew
+> the Mongols. After widespread destruction and massacres of populations from
+> China to Germany, the Mongol occupiers reigned over most of Russia from
+> their capital near the Caspian Sea; mingling little in everyday Russian
+> life, and demanding chiefly financial tributes and recognition of their
+> domination—during which they themselves were gradually assimilated by the
+> conquered … while Russians did not allow themselves to be tartarized by
+> the conquerors. Hence, Russian historians have been divided between those
+> who pay little attention to the Mongol domination and those who stress its
+> destructive influence on Russia.
+>
+> Perhaps the most enduring effect of the Mongol yoke was to cut off the
+> dominated Russian lands from the West causing Russia to look eastwards, so
+> powerful an influence that Russian civilization did not even experience the
+> Renaissance of the West. Only later, Tsar Peter the Great traveled in the
+> West and built St. Petersburg in order to turn Russian eyes westwards by
+> force. Yet the divisions between Russia’s Westernizers who still today
+> look westwards and Slavophiles who cling to pure Russian traditions and its
+> Eastern soul have persisted. So that today the Russianness of the Slavophile
+> outlook is much in vogue, that shadow influence buttressing Russia’s cold
+> shoulder toward U.S. imposed economic sanctions.
+
+
+###### {#ibkeo_Carol_Brouillet_intro}
+
+# [Carol Brouillet intro](#ibkeo_Carol_Brouillet_intro)   :bio:
+
+<https://twitter.com/cbrouillet?lang=en>
+
+## Work by or about Carol Brouillet
+
+<https://towardfreedom.org/story/archives/activism/an-interview-with-911-truth-activist-carol-brouillet/>
+
+audio <https://www.owltail.com/people/GSxhN-carol-brouillet/appearances>
+
+<https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/bay-area-to-host-911-conspiracy-movie-festival/1900764/>
+
+#_hide{
+open -t Carol Brouillet
+open -t g! Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: http://wikispooks.com/ Carol Brouillet
+open -t w! Carol Brouillet
+open -t reddit! Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: http://www.sourcewatch.org Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: https://everipedia.org Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: https://www.historycommons.org/ Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: https://www.nndb.com/ Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: https://biography.com/ Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: https://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/ Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: https://www.earnthenecklace.com/ Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: https://www.revolvy.com Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: https://alchetron.com Carol Brouillet
+open -t site: https://zq3q.org/ Carol Brouillet
+familiarity:
+#_hide}
+
+
:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
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diff -w -u -r1.1054 -r1.1055
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/17 15:59:13 1.1054
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/17 16:50:39 1.1055
@@ -19111,10 +19111,8 @@
> for meetings with people you meet regularly. Once someone has your Personal
> Meeting ID, they will be able to join an ongoing meeting whether you want it
> or not, unless you lock your meeting or use the Waiting Room feature which is
-> available starting from the Pro plan.
-
-<https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/>
-
+> available starting from the Pro plan. [...]
+>
> This ID can be started and scheduled at any time, and it does not
> expire. It’s also assigned to you automatically once you sign up with Zoom.

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diff -w -u -r1.1053 -r1.1054
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/17 15:43:13 1.1053
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/17 15:59:13 1.1054
@@ -19085,7 +19085,21 @@

:end: Recurring Meetings | Recurring  Meeting id }}} 

-### PMI personal meeting id is static | a convenience id  {{{ :ms1q:
+###### {#rkevw_static_PMI}   {{{ :ms1q:    lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#rkevw_static_PMI
+
+### [PMI personal meeting id is static | a convenience id ](#rkevw_static_PMI)
+
+Using only a PMI id is what zoom novices might do for all meetings. It's
+simple: you have one unchanging meeting ID number and one unchanging password.
+The PMI number and the password are fixed (unless you make an effort to change
+them), and it will never expire. PMI meetings can be started or restarted
+anytime. PMI meetings can be zoom-scheduled in the future.
+
+It's not a best practice to use a PMI id for a large event. If you do you
+should change the PMI password after the event.
+
+For a big event I suggest a regular ID, which you can create in advance of the
+event by zoom-scheduling it.

<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362533>

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diff -w -u -r1.1052 -r1.1053
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/16 17:15:04 1.1052
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/17 15:43:13 1.1053
@@ -19201,8 +19201,8 @@

[x] Allow sharing whiteboard during a meeting

-    | [x] Allow saving of whiteboard content
-    | [x] Auto save whiteboard content when sharing is stopped
+> | [x] Allow saving of whiteboard content
+> | [x] Auto save whiteboard content when sharing is stopped

### Settings>Recording

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1051 -r1.1052
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/16 15:30:12 1.1051
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/16 17:15:04 1.1052
@@ -19033,7 +19033,7 @@
"regular meeting id" types; 4 types | non PMI
:   These have random numeric IDs. 

-    # <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362413-How-Do-I-Schedule-Meetings->
+    ### <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362413-How-Do-I-Schedule-Meetings->

    * A **non-recurring** meeting ID will expire 30 days after the meeting is
    scheduled for. You can restart the same meeting ID as many times as you
@@ -19050,7 +19050,7 @@
    started on the last occurrence. You can re-use the meeting ID for future
    occurrences.
    
-    # 'Instant meetings' | 'Meet Now' | one shot only
+    ### 'Instant meetings' | 'Meet Now' | one shot only

    These are created by the zoom 'owner' account in the  zoom client, by clicking on
    the orange **New Meeting** button. First, though you must deselect the PMI option in the 
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1050 -r1.1051
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/16 15:24:17 1.1050
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/16 15:30:12 1.1051
@@ -19270,7 +19270,7 @@

---
---
-zoom overview wrapper :jy5k  }}}
+zoom overview wrapper :jy5k }}} 
<br>
<br>
<br>
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1049 -r1.1050
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/16 15:20:19 1.1049
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/16 15:24:17 1.1050
@@ -19016,7 +19016,9 @@

# [zoom suggested settings](#uxtut_zoom_settings_my)

-## meeting id overview  :7scc: {{{ 
+###### {#dbdqy_zoom_meeting_id_overview}
+
+## [zoom meeting id overview](#dbdqy_zoom_meeting_id_overview)  :7scc: {{{   lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#dbdqy_zoom_meeting_id_overview

### unique/random meeting id (11 digits) | regular meeting id vs PMI 

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1048 -r1.1049
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/15 16:38:05 1.1048
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/16 15:20:19 1.1049
@@ -18987,7 +18987,7 @@
###### {#mvpig_zoom_basics}      deprecated link :=zoom:         lynx https://zq3q.org/#upcyq_zoom_details
###### {#upcyq_zoom_details}

-# [zoom overview|zoom help|zoom details](#upcyq_zoom_details)
+# [zoom overview|zoom help|zoom details](#upcyq_zoom_details)  {{{ zoom overview wrapper :jy5k:

<https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/>

@@ -19014,9 +19014,11 @@

###### {#uxtut_zoom_settings_my}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#uxtut_zoom_settings_my

-[zoom suggested settings](#uxtut_zoom_settings_my)
+# [zoom suggested settings](#uxtut_zoom_settings_my)

-# unique/random meeting id (11 digits) | regular meeting id vs PMI
+## meeting id overview  :7scc: {{{ 
+
+### unique/random meeting id (11 digits) | regular meeting id vs PMI 

A zoom-generated random number meeting id.

@@ -19062,44 +19064,14 @@
    > the Zoom website will expire as soon as the meeting has ended.


-## **zoom-scheduled** recurring meetings 
+### Recurring Meetings | Recurring  Meeting id   {{{
+
+**zoom-scheduled** recurring meetings use a random id.

The scheduling GUI forces scheduled recurring meetings to be random meeting IDs,
the PMI option is not available. These recurring meeting ids can be used anytime --
they do expire well after the recurring meeting sequence has ended.

-## corner case end user may be able to join a regular/random-id mtg using PMI creds???
-
-<https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/>
-
-> Another use for PMI is if you would like to open up all your meetings to allow
-> users with your PMI to join in anytime they would like. [...]
->
-> Additionally, if you have back to back meetings, it is highly recommended to
-> use a randomly generated Meeting ID since you will have to kick everyone off
-> the meeting each time you want to start the next. And even then, any user with
-> your Personal Meeting Link can join the meeting, whether they were invited or
-> not.
-
-# tips for big-event meetings & security
-
-I think "share screen" settings at the base/pre-meeting config level should be liberal, i.e. allow
-screen sharing. Still the host can and may want to manually disable screen sharing during
-a large meeting, and re-enable only when needed.
-
-<https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/17/21196104/how-to-keep-your-zoom-meetings-safe-security-privacy>
-
-> If a participant does start to misbehave but you don’t necessarily want to
-> kick them out (or you want to discuss what you’re going to get them for
-> their birthday), you can put them back in the waiting room. Click on the
-> “Manage Participants” icon at the bottom of your screen, find the name of
-> the participant on the resulting side panel, and then click on “More” >
-> “Put in waiting room.”
-
-<https://harvard.service-now.com/ithelp?id=kb_article&sys_id=c1735972dbd7885430ed1dca48961975>
-
-# Recurring Meetings | Recurring  Meeting id
-
<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/214973206>

> Zoom allows you to schedule meetings with multiple occurrences, so that
@@ -19109,13 +19081,14 @@
> expire 365 days after the meeting was last started.


-# pmi personal meeting id
+:end: Recurring Meetings | Recurring  Meeting id }}} 
+
+### PMI personal meeting id is static | a convenience id  {{{ :ms1q:

<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362533>

> You can use your Personal Meeting ID for Instant Meetings.

-
<https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/>

> since your Zoom Personal Meeting ID is permanent, you should only use it
@@ -19142,20 +19115,50 @@
numbers password means phone plain old phone password matches the web
password.

-
<https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/>

> The static feature of a Personal Meeting ID is better suited for recurring
> meetings.

+:end: :ms1q: PMI personal meeting id is static }}} 

-## Personal link / Personal URL ( no longer supported?? June 2020 )
+### corner case end user may be able to join a regular/random-id mtg using PMI creds???

-For licensed accounts.
+<https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/>

-Profile > Customize
+> Another use for PMI is if you would like to open up all your meetings to allow
+> users with your PMI to join in anytime they would like. [...]
+>
+> Additionally, if you have back to back meetings, it is highly recommended to
+> use a randomly generated Meeting ID since you will have to kick everyone off
+> the meeting each time you want to start the next. And even then, any user with
+> your Personal Meeting Link can join the meeting, whether they were invited or
+> not.
+
+:end: regular meeting id vs PMI :7scc: }}} 

-# Settings> Meeting
+## tips for big-event meetings & security
+
+I think "share screen" settings at the base/pre-meeting config level should be liberal, i.e. allow
+screen sharing. Still the host can and may want to manually disable screen sharing during
+a large meeting, and re-enable only when needed.
+
+<https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/17/21196104/how-to-keep-your-zoom-meetings-safe-security-privacy>
+
+> If a participant does start to misbehave but you don’t necessarily want to
+> kick them out (or you want to discuss what you’re going to get them for
+> their birthday), you can put them back in the waiting room. Click on the
+> “Manage Participants” icon at the bottom of your screen, find the name of
+> the participant on the resulting side panel, and then click on “More” >
+> “Put in waiting room.”
+
+<https://harvard.service-now.com/ithelp?id=kb_article&sys_id=c1735972dbd7885430ed1dca48961975>
+
+## zoom settings - detailed check boxes :kpFeqV0a: { 
+
+## zoom settings - detailed check box by check box
+
+### Settings> Meeting

[x] Allow participants to join the meeting before the host arrives

@@ -19174,7 +19177,7 @@

[x] Add 'Polls' to the meeting controls. This allows the host to survey the attendees

-## screen sharing
+#### screen sharing

[all particpants] Who can share?

@@ -19199,13 +19202,13 @@
    | [x] Allow saving of whiteboard content
    | [x] Auto save whiteboard content when sharing is stopped

-# Settings>Recording
+### Settings>Recording

-## local
+#### local

Allow hosts and participants to record the meeting to a local file [x]

-## cloud
+#### cloud

[x] Record active speaker with shared screen

@@ -19213,7 +19216,7 @@

[x] Save chat messages from the meeting / webinar

-## Automatic recording
+#### Automatic recording

Only about 1GB of space provided in cloud for basic plan. They apparently allow
>1GB though if the threshold is crossed in a given meeting.  
@@ -19226,7 +19229,14 @@

[x] auto delete after 120 days

-# appendix
+### Personal link / Personal URL ( no longer supported?? June 2020 )
+
+For licensed accounts.
+
+Profile > Customize
+
+
+# zoom help/ appendix

## more definitions

@@ -19258,6 +19268,7 @@

---
---
+zoom overview wrapper :jy5k  }}}
<br>
<br>
<br>
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1047 -r1.1048
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/15 14:47:17 1.1047
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/15 16:38:05 1.1048
@@ -19016,7 +19016,6 @@

[zoom suggested settings](#uxtut_zoom_settings_my)

-
# unique/random meeting id (11 digits) | regular meeting id vs PMI

A zoom-generated random number meeting id.
@@ -19053,7 +19052,7 @@
    the orange **New Meeting** button. First, though you must deselect the PMI option in the 
    New Meeting button drop down.

-    I've tried, thee meetings can not be restarted -- you get an error saying :
+    I've tried, these meetings can not be restarted -- you get an error saying :

    > This meeting ID is invalid.

@@ -19066,7 +19065,8 @@
## **zoom-scheduled** recurring meetings 

The scheduling GUI forces scheduled recurring meetings to be random meeting IDs,
-the PMI option is not available.
+the PMI option is not available. These recurring meeting ids can be used anytime --
+they do expire well after the recurring meeting sequence has ended.

## corner case end user may be able to join a regular/random-id mtg using PMI creds???

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1046 -r1.1047
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1045 -r1.1046
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/15 12:38:05 1.1045
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/15 14:43:50 1.1046
@@ -19113,7 +19113,7 @@

<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362533>

-    You can use your Personal Meeting ID for Instant Meetings.
+> You can use your Personal Meeting ID for Instant Meetings.


<https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/>
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1044 -r1.1045
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/14 23:54:27 1.1044
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/15 12:38:05 1.1045
@@ -19089,7 +19089,6 @@

<https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/17/21196104/how-to-keep-your-zoom-meetings-safe-security-privacy>

-
    > If a participant does start to misbehave but you don’t necessarily want to
    > kick them out (or you want to discuss what you’re going to get them for
    > their birthday), you can put them back in the waiting room. Click on the
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1043 -r1.1044
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/14 23:35:14 1.1043
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/14 23:54:27 1.1044
@@ -19090,12 +19090,12 @@
<https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/17/21196104/how-to-keep-your-zoom-meetings-safe-security-privacy>


-    If a participant does start to misbehave but you don’t necessarily want to
-    kick them out (or you want to discuss what you’re going to get them for
-    their birthday), you can put them back in the waiting room. Click on the
-    “Manage Participants” icon at the bottom of your screen, find the name of
-    the participant on the resulting side panel, and then click on “More” >
-    “Put in waiting room.”
+    > If a participant does start to misbehave but you don’t necessarily want to
+    > kick them out (or you want to discuss what you’re going to get them for
+    > their birthday), you can put them back in the waiting room. Click on the
+    > “Manage Participants” icon at the bottom of your screen, find the name of
+    > the participant on the resulting side panel, and then click on “More” >
+    > “Put in waiting room.”

<https://harvard.service-now.com/ithelp?id=kb_article&sys_id=c1735972dbd7885430ed1dca48961975>

@@ -19103,11 +19103,11 @@

<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/214973206>

-    Zoom allows you to schedule meetings with multiple occurrences, so that
-    each occurrence uses the same meeting ID and settings. You can schedule
-    these meetings in daily, weekly, and monthly increments. You can also set a
-    recurring meeting to be used at any time. Meeting IDs for recurring meetings
-    expire 365 days after the meeting was last started.
+    > Zoom allows you to schedule meetings with multiple occurrences, so that
+    > each occurrence uses the same meeting ID and settings. You can schedule
+    > these meetings in daily, weekly, and monthly increments. You can also set a
+    > recurring meeting to be used at any time. Meeting IDs for recurring meetings
+    > expire 365 days after the meeting was last started.


# pmi personal meeting id
@@ -19119,16 +19119,16 @@

<https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/>

-    since your Zoom Personal Meeting ID is permanent, you should only use it
-    for meetings with people you meet regularly. Once someone has your Personal
-    Meeting ID, they will be able to join an ongoing meeting whether you want it
-    or not, unless you lock your meeting or use the Waiting Room feature which is
-    available starting from the Pro plan.
+    > since your Zoom Personal Meeting ID is permanent, you should only use it
+    > for meetings with people you meet regularly. Once someone has your Personal
+    > Meeting ID, they will be able to join an ongoing meeting whether you want it
+    > or not, unless you lock your meeting or use the Waiting Room feature which is
+    > available starting from the Pro plan.

<https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/>

-    This ID can be started and scheduled at any time, and it does not
-    expire. It’s also assigned to you automatically once you sign up with Zoom.
+    > This ID can be started and scheduled at any time, and it does not
+    > expire. It’s also assigned to you automatically once you sign up with Zoom.

<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362843-Personal-meeting-ID-PMI-and-personal-link>

@@ -19146,8 +19146,8 @@

<https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/>

-    The static feature of a Personal Meeting ID is better suited for recurring
-    meetings.
+    > The static feature of a Personal Meeting ID is better suited for recurring
+    > meetings.


## Personal link / Personal URL ( no longer supported?? June 2020 )
@@ -19183,6 +19183,8 @@

[disabled] Remote control

+---
+
[x] Nonverbal feedback

[x] Breakout room
@@ -19193,12 +19195,10 @@

[x] When the cloud recording is going to be permanently deleted from trash

-##
-
[x] Allow sharing whiteboard during a meeting

-    [x] Allow saving of whiteboard content
-    [x] Auto save whiteboard content when sharing is stopped
+    | [x] Allow saving of whiteboard content
+    | [x] Auto save whiteboard content when sharing is stopped

# Settings>Recording

@@ -19221,13 +19221,16 @@

The convenience of
a central storage spot that several of us can access independently is a big advantage
-of the cloud recording option. We just need to keep downloading and prunning.
+of the cloud recording option. We just need to keep downloading and pruning.

[x] record in the cloud         Enabled on Sat 30 May 2020 for 911tap.

[x] auto delete after 120 days

-# more definitions
+# appendix
+
+## more definitions
+
alternate host
:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/208220166-Alternative-Host>

@@ -19236,24 +19239,29 @@
host key
:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205172555-Using-your-host-key>

-# streaming
+## streaming

<https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/comments/fpe208/obs_virtual_cam_to_zoom/>

-# extra cost features
+## extra cost features

<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005474943-Meeting-and-Webinar-Comparison>

-# advanced
+## advanced

<https://devforum.zoom.us/>

<https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/2872010?hl=en>

-# security
+## security

<https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-about-online-tools-during-covid-19-crisis>

+---
+---
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>



===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1042 -r1.1043
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/14 23:31:09 1.1042
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/14 23:35:14 1.1043
@@ -19023,9 +19023,9 @@

<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362373-What-is-a-Meeting-ID->

-    The 11-digit number is used for instant, scheduled or recurring meetings. The
-    10-digit number is used for Personal Meeting IDs. Meetings scheduled prior to
-    April 12, 2020 may be 9-digits long.
+> The 11-digit number is used for instant, scheduled or recurring meetings. The
+> 10-digit number is used for Personal Meeting IDs. Meetings scheduled prior to
+> April 12, 2020 may be 9-digits long.

"regular meeting id" types; 4 types | non PMI
:   These have random numeric IDs. 
@@ -19055,12 +19055,12 @@

    I've tried, thee meetings can not be restarted -- you get an error saying :

-        This meeting ID is invalid.
+    > This meeting ID is invalid.

    <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362533>

-        An instant meeting ID started from Zoom desktop client, Zoom mobile app, or
-        the Zoom website will expire as soon as the meeting has ended.
+    > An instant meeting ID started from Zoom desktop client, Zoom mobile app, or
+    > the Zoom website will expire as soon as the meeting has ended.


## **zoom-scheduled** recurring meetings 
@@ -19072,14 +19072,14 @@

<https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/>

-    Another use for PMI is if you would like to open up all your meetings to allow
-    users with your PMI to join in anytime they would like. [...]
-
-    Additionally, if you have back to back meetings, it is highly recommended to
-    use a randomly generated Meeting ID since you will have to kick everyone off
-    the meeting each time you want to start the next. And even then, any user with
-    your Personal Meeting Link can join the meeting, whether they were invited or
-    not.
+> Another use for PMI is if you would like to open up all your meetings to allow
+> users with your PMI to join in anytime they would like. [...]
+>
+> Additionally, if you have back to back meetings, it is highly recommended to
+> use a randomly generated Meeting ID since you will have to kick everyone off
+> the meeting each time you want to start the next. And even then, any user with
+> your Personal Meeting Link can join the meeting, whether they were invited or
+> not.

# tips for big-event meetings & security

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1041 -r1.1042
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/14 16:38:05 1.1041
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/14 23:31:09 1.1042
@@ -19003,6 +19003,7 @@
:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362603-Host-and-Co-Host-Controls-in-a-Meeting>

    Host can assign as many co-hosts as needed. They appear to have all or almost all host rights.
+    Our tests hint that a co-host can not create a poll, nor mute-all and "don't allow all to unmute".

    **Corner case**: (2nd instance of 'owner' acct becomes "co-host"): If the zoom 'owner' acct is in the meeting, and subsequently the 'owner'
    joins the meeting again (perhaps a different human); then this 2nd instance becomes a 'co-host'. Based on testing in June 2020.
@@ -19011,32 +19012,6 @@
:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/206330935-Enabling-and-Adding-a-Co-Host>


-alternate host
-:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/208220166-Alternative-Host>
-
-    Above shows steps for "Designating an alternative host" in advance of a scheduled meeting (I assume?).
-
-host key
-:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205172555-Using-your-host-key>
-
-## streaming
-
-<https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/comments/fpe208/obs_virtual_cam_to_zoom/>
-
-## extra cost features
-
-<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005474943-Meeting-and-Webinar-Comparison>
-
-## advanced
-
-<https://devforum.zoom.us/>
-
-<https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/2872010?hl=en>
-
-## security
-
-<https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-about-online-tools-during-covid-19-crisis>
-
###### {#uxtut_zoom_settings_my}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#uxtut_zoom_settings_my

[zoom suggested settings](#uxtut_zoom_settings_my)
@@ -19241,10 +19216,44 @@

## Automatic recording

+Only about 1GB of space provided in cloud for basic plan. They apparently allow
+>1GB though if the threshold is crossed in a given meeting.  
+
+The convenience of
+a central storage spot that several of us can access independently is a big advantage
+of the cloud recording option. We just need to keep downloading and prunning.
+
[x] record in the cloud         Enabled on Sat 30 May 2020 for 911tap.

[x] auto delete after 120 days

+# more definitions
+alternate host
+:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/208220166-Alternative-Host>
+
+    Above shows steps for "Designating an alternative host" in advance of a scheduled meeting (I assume?).
+
+host key
+:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205172555-Using-your-host-key>
+
+# streaming
+
+<https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/comments/fpe208/obs_virtual_cam_to_zoom/>
+
+# extra cost features
+
+<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005474943-Meeting-and-Webinar-Comparison>
+
+# advanced
+
+<https://devforum.zoom.us/>
+
+<https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/2872010?hl=en>
+
+# security
+
+<https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-about-online-tools-during-covid-19-crisis>
+



===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.1040 -r1.1041
--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/14 12:38:06 1.1040
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/14 16:38:05 1.1041
@@ -18984,9 +18984,10 @@
>   15. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gdH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=p~amp;o=

-###### {#mvpig_zoom_basics}  :=zoomh: lynx https://zq3q.org/#mvpig_zoom_basics +###### {#mvpig_zoom_basics}  deprecated link :=zoom: lynx https://zq3q.org/#upcyq_zoom_details +###### {#upcyq_zoom_details}

-# zoom overview|zoom help|zoom basics +# zoom overview|zoom help|zoom details

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/

@@ -19071,12 +19072,16 @@ started on the last occurrence. You can re-use the meeting ID for future occurrences.

@@ -19012,9 +19018,6 @@ host key : https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205172555-Using-your-host-key

-co-host -: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/206330935-Enabling-and-Adding-a-Co-Host - ## streaming

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/comments/fpe208/obs_virtual_cam_to_zoom/ @@ -19038,79 +19041,54 @@ zoom suggested settings

-# unique/random meeting id (11 digits) | regular meeting id

-A one time, randomly generated, single use meeting id, generated by zoom.

-Apparently there are 3 sub-types of meeting ids: +# unique/random meeting id (11 digits) | regular meeting id vs PMI

-* Instant meeting IDs -* Non-recurring meeting IDs -* (scheduled?) Recurring meeting IDs +A zoom-generated random number meeting id.

-Slightly out of date in June 2020: https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/ -: The regular meeting ID is also assigned to instant or scheduled meetings - automatically, but its key difference from the Personal Meeting ID is that it - does expire after some time: - - * Instant meeting IDs expire immediately after the end of the meeting. - - * Non-recurring meeting IDs expire 30 days after the meeting’s scheduled - date, but if restarted within those 30 days, it is prolonged for another - 30 days. If the meeting has been recorded to the cloud, the ID stays valid - for 90 days. +https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362373-What-is-a-Meeting-ID-

+“regular meeting id” types; 4 types | non PMI +: These have random numeric IDs.

-normal meeting id variations -: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362413-How-Do-I-Schedule-Meetings- + # https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362413-How-Do-I-Schedule-Meetings-

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362533

 An instant meeting ID started from Zoom desktop client, Zoom mobile app, or
 the Zoom website will expire as soon as the meeting has ended.

-https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/

-## scheduled recurring meetings +## zoom-scheduled recurring meetings

The scheduling GUI forces scheduled recurring meetings to be random meeting IDs, the PMI option is not available.

-## corner case end user may be able to join a regular/random-id mtg using PMI creds? +## corner case end user may be able to join a regular/random-id mtg using PMI creds???

https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/

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zoom suggested settings

-```

# unique/random meeting id (11 digits) | regular meeting id

@@ -19265,7 +19264,6 @@

-```

###### {#dhjfj_2016_WI_recount_notes}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#dhjfj_2016_WI_recount_notes

diff -w -u -r1.1037 -r1.1038 — site.body.markdown 2020/06/13 12:45:12 1.1037 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/06/13 12:51:28 1.1038 @@ -19140,6 +19140,7 @@ the participant on the resulting side panel, and then click on “More” > “Put in waiting room.”

+https://harvard.service-now.com/ithelp?id=kb_article&sys_id=c1735972dbd7885430ed1dca48961975

# Recurring Meetings | Recurring Meeting id

@@ -19191,6 +19192,7 @@ The static feature of a Personal Meeting ID is better suited for recurring meetings.

+## scheduled recurring meetings + +The scheduling GUI forces scheduled recurring meetings to be random meeting IDs, +the PMI option is not available.

## corner case end user may be able to join a regular/random-id mtg using PMI creds?

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-# unique/random meeting id (11 digits)
+# unique/random meeting id (11 digits) | regular meeting id

A one time, randomly generated, single use meeting id, generated by zoom.
-These meetings expire when they end.
+
+Apparently there are 3 sub-types of meeting ids:
+
+* Instant meeting IDs
+* Non-recurring meeting IDs
+* Recurring meeting IDs
+
+Slightly out of date in June 2020: <https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/>
+:   The regular meeting ID is also assigned to instant or scheduled meetings
+    automatically, but its key difference from the Personal Meeting ID is that it
+    does expire after some time:
+
+    * Instant meeting IDs expire immediately after the end of the meeting.
+
+    * Non-recurring meeting IDs expire 30 days after the meeting’s scheduled
+    date, but if restarted within those 30 days, it is prolonged for another
+    30 days. If the meeting has been recorded to the cloud, the ID stays valid
+    for 90 days.
+
+    * Recurring meeting IDs expire if not used for 365 days.
+
+
+normal meeting id variations
+:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362413-How-Do-I-Schedule-Meetings->
+
+    * A non-recurring meeting ID will expire 30 days after the meeting is
+    scheduled for. You can restart the same meeting ID as many times as you
+    would like, within the 30-day period.
+
+    * A recurring meeting ID will expire 365 days after the meeting is
+    started on the last occurrence. You can re-use the meeting ID for future
+    occurrences.
+
+    * Scheduled meetings can be started at any time before the scheduled
+    time. The links will not expire or become invalid unless it is past the
+    30 day period for a non-recurring meeting, has not been used for over
+    365 days for a recurring meeting, or has been deleted from your Zoom
+    account. An instant meeting link will expire as soon as the meeting is
+    over.
+
+
+<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362533>
+
+    An instant meeting ID started from Zoom desktop client, Zoom mobile app, or
+    the Zoom website will expire as soon as the meeting has ended.

<https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/>

@@ -19061,20 +19105,6 @@
    April 12, 2020 may be 9-digits long.


-<https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/>
-:   The regular meeting ID is also assigned to instant or scheduled meetings
-    automatically, but its key difference from the Personal Meeting ID is that it
-    does expire after some time:
-
-    * Instant meeting IDs expire immediately after the end of the meeting.
-
-    * Non-recurring meeting IDs expire 30 days after the meeting’s scheduled
-    date, but if restarted within those 30 days, it is prolonged for another
-    30 days. If the meeting has been recorded to the cloud, the ID stays valid
-    for 90 days.
-
-    * Recurring meeting IDs expire if not used for 365 days.
-
## corner case end user may be able to join a regular/random-id mtg using PMI creds?

<https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/>
@@ -19122,6 +19152,15 @@

    You can use your Personal Meeting ID for Instant Meetings.

+
+<https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/>
+
+    since your Zoom Personal Meeting ID is permanent, you should only use it
+    for meetings with people you meet regularly. Once someone has your Personal
+    Meeting ID, they will be able to join an ongoing meeting whether you want it
+    or not, unless you lock your meeting or use the Waiting Room feature which is
+    available starting from the Pro plan.
+
<https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/>

    This ID can be started and scheduled at any time, and it does not
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--- site.body.markdown  2020/06/11 20:38:05 1.1034
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/06/13 11:33:04 1.1035
@@ -19039,8 +19039,94 @@

+# unique/random meeting id (11 digits) + +A one time, randomly generated, single use meeting id, generated by zoom. +These meetings expire when they end. + +https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/ + + When you host a Zoom meeting with a randomly generated Meeting ID (not + PMI), you simply need to ‘End meeting for all’ to kick everyone off the + call. This link now expires, and participants cannot get back on the same + call. + + […] a regular Zoom meeting ID (not PMI) expires once the meeting ends. Since + the ID can no longer be used, the meeting link expires when the meeting ends. + +https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362373-What-is-a-Meeting-ID- + + The 11-digit number is used for instant, scheduled or recurring meetings. The + 10-digit number is used for Personal Meeting IDs. Meetings scheduled prior to + April 12, 2020 may be 9-digits long. + + +https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/ +: The regular meeting ID is also assigned to instant or scheduled meetings + automatically, but its key difference from the Personal Meeting ID is that it + does expire after some time: + + * Instant meeting IDs expire immediately after the end of the meeting. + + * Non-recurring meeting IDs expire 30 days after the meeting’s scheduled + date, but if restarted within those 30 days, it is prolonged for another + 30 days. If the meeting has been recorded to the cloud, the ID stays valid + for 90 days. + + * Recurring meeting IDs expire if not used for 365 days. + +## corner case end user may be able to join a regular/random-id mtg using PMI creds? + +https://www.theandroidsoul.com/zoom-meeting-vs-zoom-personal-meeting/ + + Another use for PMI is if you would like to open up all your meetings to allow + users with your PMI to join in anytime they would like. […] + + Additionally, if you have back to back meetings, it is highly recommended to + use a randomly generated Meeting ID since you will have to kick everyone off + the meeting each time you want to start the next. And even then, any user with + your Personal Meeting Link can join the meeting, whether they were invited or + not. + +# tips for big-event meetings & security + +I think “share screen” settings at the base/pre-meeting config level should be liberal, i.e. allow +screen sharing. Still the host can and may want to manually disable screen sharing during +a large meeting, and re-enable only when needed. + +https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/17/21196104/how-to-keep-your-zoom-meetings-safe-security-privacy + + + If a participant does start to misbehave but you don’t necessarily want to + kick them out (or you want to discuss what you’re going to get them for + their birthday), you can put them back in the waiting room. Click on the + “Manage Participants” icon at the bottom of your screen, find the name of + the participant on the resulting side panel, and then click on “More” > + “Put in waiting room.” + + +# Recurring Meetings | Recurring Meeting id + +https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/214973206 + + Zoom allows you to schedule meetings with multiple occurrences, so that + each occurrence uses the same meeting ID and settings. You can schedule + these meetings in daily, weekly, and monthly increments. You can also set a + recurring meeting to be used at any time. Meeting IDs for recurring meetings + expire 365 days after the meeting was last started. + + # pmi personal meeting id

+https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362533 + + You can use your Personal Meeting ID for Instant Meetings. + +https://zoomappdownload.com/zoom-personal-meeting-id/ + + This ID can be started and scheduled at any time, and it does not + expire. It’s also assigned to you automatically once you sign up with Zoom. + https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362843-Personal-meeting-ID-PMI-and-personal-link

Your personal meeting room is a virtual room that is permanently reserved for @@ -19054,6 +19140,12 @@ numbers password means phone plain old phone password matches the web password.

+New to me: +: https://progressive.international/about/en + + In December 2018, the Democracy in Europe Movement (DiEM25) and the + Sanders Institute issued an open call to all progressive forces to form a + common front. + +— + Do’s and Don’ts of Covering Protests : https://inn.org/2020/06/dos-and-donts-of-covering-protests/

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+—

Apparently Kent State shootings were effective in quelling antiwar movement.
skip in 21:00 https://projectcensored.podbean.com/mf/play/baamn4/ProjectCensored_051920.mp3 @@ -18141,6 +18141,8 @@ familiarity: #_h}

+ :biobot:TqjVvx0eRzzm: + :=netiquette:=netiquette:quoting practice:toppost:top post:post:=posting:=email_etiquette:=etiq: { 

###### {#anzpq_AhashA_netiquette}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#anzpq_AhashA_netiquette

diff -w -u -r1.1015 -r1.1016 — site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 12:23:56 1.1015 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 12:27:19 1.1016 @@ -219,7 +219,7 @@

              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-Extensive coverage of GeorgeFloyd protests across USA. +Extensive coverage of GeorgeFloyd protests across USA. Mon 01 Jun 2020 : https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/28843405/loud_clear_1079.mp3

@ -227,7 +227,7 @@
###### {#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020
Overt Texaco /Chevron now/ Env Crimes in Equator , June 2020  Overt Texaco /Chevron now/ Env Crimes in Equator , June 2020 : Steve Donziger Paul Paz y Mino. Multi billion dollar ruling.
skip in 23:40 https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_1_20.mp3?dest-id=122538 ================================================================== iff -w -u -r1.1014 -r1.1015 – site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 12:18:21 1.1014 ++ site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 12:23:56 1.1015 @ -219,18 +219,15 @@
 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-# Overt Texaco /Chevron now/ Env Crimes in Equator , June 2020 

###### {#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020

-zap ahkj akjha kjha kjah a +Overt Texaco /Chevron now/ Env Crimes in Equator , June 2020  : Steve Donziger Paul Paz y Mino. Multi billion dollar ruling.

skip in 23:40 https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_1_20.mp3?dest-id=122538

diff -w -u -r1.1013 -r1.1014 — site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 12:14:08 1.1013 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 12:18:21 1.1014 @@ -230,7 +230,7 @@

###### {#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020

-# zap +zap ahkj akjha kjha kjah a : Steve Donziger Paul Paz y Mino. Multi billion dollar ruling.

skip in 23:40 https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_1_20.mp3?dest-id=122538

diff -w -u -r1.1012 -r1.1013 — site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 12:04:07 1.1012 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 12:14:08 1.1013 @@ -219,7 +219,9 @@

              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-Extensive coverage of #GeorgeFloyd protests across USA. +— + +Extensive coverage of GeorgeFloyd protests across USA. : https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/28843405/loud_clear_1079.mp3

diff -w -u -r1.1011 -r1.1012 — site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 11:38:41 1.1011 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 12:04:07 1.1012 @@ -224,9 +224,11 @@


+# Overt Texaco /Chevron now/ Env Crimes in Equator , June 2020  + ###### {#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020

-# Overt Texaco /Chevron now/ Env Crimes in Equator , June 2020 +# zap : Steve Donziger Paul Paz y Mino. Multi billion dollar ruling.

skip in 23:40 https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_1_20.mp3?dest-id=122538

diff -w -u -r1.1010 -r1.1011 — site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 11:28:11 1.1010 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 11:38:41 1.1011 @@ -226,7 +226,7 @@

###### {#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020

-# Overt Texaco (Chevron now) Environmental Crimes in Equator , June 2020 +# Overt Texaco /Chevron now/ Env Crimes in Equator , June 2020 : Steve Donziger Paul Paz y Mino. Multi billion dollar ruling.

skip in 23:40 https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_1_20.mp3?dest-id=122538

diff -w -u -r1.1009 -r1.1010 — site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 11:18:42 1.1009 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 11:28:11 1.1010 @@ -226,7 +226,7 @@

###### {#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020

-# Overt Texaco (Chevron now) Environmental Crimes in Equator | June 2020 +# Overt Texaco (Chevron now) Environmental Crimes in Equator , June 2020 : Steve Donziger Paul Paz y Mino. Multi billion dollar ruling.

skip in 23:40 https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_1_20.mp3?dest-id=122538

diff -w -u -r1.1008 -r1.1009 — site.body.markdown 2020/06/01 12:38:08 1.1008 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/06/02 11:18:42 1.1009 @@ -219,6 +219,22 @@

              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+Extensive coverage of #GeorgeFloyd protests across USA. +: https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/28843405/loud_clear_1079.mp3 + +— + +###### {#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hbwkm_EnvCrimesEquator062020 + +# Overt Texaco (Chevron now) Environmental Crimes in Equator | June 2020 +: Steve Donziger Paul Paz y Mino. Multi billion dollar ruling. + + skip in 23:40 https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/clearingthefogradioshow/CtF_Show_6_1_20.mp3?dest-id=122538 + + Consider boycotting Chevron gas stations. + +— + Hedges – why Bernie did not run as an independent. What the Dems did to Nader, McGovern. : 03:36 http://www.radio4all.net/files/tuc@tucradio.org/44-2-20200518_hedges_wolff_biden_trump_two_of_two.mp3

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[all] Who can start sharing when someone else is sharing?

-###### {#uxtut_zoom_settings_my} +###### {#uxtut_zoom_settings_my}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#uxtut_zoom_settings_my

zoom suggested settings

++ +# Settings> Meeting + +[x] Allow participants to join the meeting before the host arrives + +[x] Enable Personal Meeting ID + +[x] Use Personal Meeting ID (PMI) when scheduling a meeting + +[x] auto save chats + +[disable] Sound notification when someone joins or leaves + +[disable] Feedback to Zoom + +[x] Allow the host to add co-hosts. Co-hosts have the same in-meeting controls as the host. + + +[x] Add 'Polls' to the meeting controls. This allows the host to survey the attendees + +## screen sharing + +[all particpants] Who can share? + +[all] Who can start sharing when someone else is sharing? + + +[disabled] Remote control + +[x] Nonverbal feedback + +[x] Breakout room + +[disabled] Waiting room | per-meeting + +[x] Allow live streaming meetings + +[x] When the cloud recording is going to be permanently deleted from trash + +## + +[x] Allow sharing whiteboard during a meeting + + [x] Allow saving of whiteboard content + [x] Auto save whiteboard content when sharing is stopped + + + +# Settings>Recording + +## local + +Allow hosts and participants to record the meeting to a local file [x] + +## cloud + +[x] Record active speaker with shared screen + +[x] Record an audio only file + +[x] Save chat messages from the meeting / webinar + +## Automatic recording + +[x] record in the cloud  Enabled on Sat 30 May 2020 for 911tap. + +[x] auto delete after 120 days + + + + +

###### {#dhjfj_2016_WI_recount_notes}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#dhjfj_2016_WI_recount_notes

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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-about-online-tools-during-covid-19-crisis

+###### {#uxtut_zoom_settings_my} + +zoom suggested settings +

###### {#dhjfj_2016_WI_recount_notes}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#dhjfj_2016_WI_recount_notes

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# Michel Chossudovsky Intro  :bio:

-http://www.globalresearch.ca/michel-chossudovsky-biographical-summary/5580999 +https://www.globalresearch.ca/michel-chossudovsky-biographical-summary/5580999

My wikipedia entry is subject to a routine almost daily wave of wiki-smear and disinformation.

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              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-Apparently Kent State crackdown was effective in quelling antiwar movement. +Hedges – why Bernie did not run as an independent. What the Dems did to Nader, McGovern. +: 03:36 http://www.radio4all.net/files/tuc@tucradio.org/44-2-20200518_hedges_wolff_biden_trump_two_of_two.mp3 + +– + +Apparently Kent State shootings were effective in quelling antiwar movement. : skip in 21:00 https://projectcensored.podbean.com/mf/play/baamn4/ProjectCensored_051920.mp3

29:00 Madison WI

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+Apparently Kent State crackdown was effective in quelling antiwar movement. +: skip in 21:00 https://projectcensored.podbean.com/mf/play/baamn4/ProjectCensored_051920.mp3 + +— + WEC: Releases analysis of absentee voting in April 7 spring election

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+WEC: Releases analysis of absentee voting in April 7 spring election + +— + Howie Hawkins interviewed by Mike Albert on supporting Biden in battleground states| May 17 2020 : spoiler effect / lesser of two evils

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              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-Howie Hawkins interviewed by Mike Albert | May 2020 +Howie Hawkins interviewed by Mike Albert on supporting Biden in battleground states| May 17 2020 : spoiler effect / lesser of two evils

 Howie is relentlessly questioned about when he won't hold his nose and

@@ -227,6 +227,8 @@ fight almost all of Biden’s policies should Biden be elected. Howie and Albert remain friends. Howie defends his position well.

+Howie Hawkins interviewed by Mike Albert | May 2020 +: spoiler effect / lesser of two evils + + Howie is relentlessly questioned about when he won’t hold his nose and + support Biden in the swing/battleground states, while also pledging to + fight almost all of Biden’s policies should Biden be elected. Howie and + Albert remain friends. Howie defends his position well. + +— + # shame, abandonment, betrayal| mind-body/culture| “Archetypal Wounds and Their Healing Fields”| your “biometric information field”; within and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beyond_the_pale 

###### {#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez

diff -w -u -r1.995 -r1.996 — site.body.markdown 2020/05/16 14:38:03 1.995 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/05/17 14:38:04 1.996 @@ -17831,6 +17831,61 @@

:=covid19statecrime:=covid19origin: :yGpqcd9YsuYr: {{{ 

+mms stats- At 85,000 deaths, SARS-CoV-2 is roughly seven times worse than H1N1 { +From: “Markus” markus@qikvin.com +To: membersonly-milwaukeemakerspace@googlegroups.com +Subject: RE: Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down “safer-at-home” order +Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 18:57:35 -0500 +Reply-To: membersonly-milwaukeemakerspace@googlegroups.com +— +The 85,000 deaths is the US alone. Worldwide it is past 300,000 in 2 months not a year and that is with much stricter measures in place. If the world had reacted to covid-19 with the H1N1 response it would have been even worse. +[…] + +Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 16:43:54 -0700 (PDT) +From: “ty.sonnier” ty.sonnier@gmail.com +To: membersonly-milwaukeemakerspace + membersonly-milwaukeemakerspace@googlegroups.com +Subject: Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down “safer-at-home” order +Reply-To: membersonly-milwaukeemakerspace@googlegroups.com +— +I do admit that I added too many zeroes, which is an obvious mistake. However, I not specify the country. Here is a quote from your own source: + +“Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated” +[…] + +From: Royce Pipkins royce.pipkins@gmail.com +Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 18:28:31 -0500 +Subject: Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down “safer-at-home” order +To: membersonly-milwaukeemakerspace@googlegroups.com +Reply-To: membersonly-milwaukeemakerspace@googlegroups.com +— +Hi Ty, + +Some facts: + +The entire world population is: +7,800,000,000 +1,000,000,000,000 is not a reasonable number for the infection rate of +H1N1. There are not that many people on the planet to be infected. + +The CDC estimates ~12,000 Americans died from H1N1. +https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html + +At 85,000 deaths, SARS-CoV-2 is roughly seven times worse than H1N1 and it +is not even done yet. + +A BAD year for the flu is ~61,000 deaths. Bad YEAR. We are 2 MONTHS into +SARS-CoV-2 and we have already exceeded the worst flu season at 85,000 +deaths. +https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html + +This is not the flu, this is not H1N1. This is worse by a goodly margin. +That is not hyperbole, that is math. + + + :end mms stats +} + #_hide{ # Dr Judy Mikovits

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https://www.globalresearch.ca/balfour-at-100-a-legacy-of-racism-and-propaganda/5614451

+https://archives.kpfa.org/data/20200515-Fri1100.mp3 + ## Balfour letter http://www.globalresearch.ca/balfours-shadow-a-century-of-british-support-for-zionism-and-israel/5597037

> > https://www.bookdepository.com/Balfours-Shadow-David-Cronin/9780745399430

diff -w -u -r1.993 -r1.994 — site.body.markdown 2020/05/11 12:38:06 1.993 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/05/12 12:38:05 1.994 @@ -17832,6 +17832,16 @@ #_hide{ # Dr Judy Mikovits

+https://bolenreport.com/dr-judy-mikovits-the-bravest-woman-in-science/ + +https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/05/06/judy-mikovits-pandemic + +https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2020/05/dr-judy-mikovits-video-with-coronavirus-claims-removed-by-youtube-for-violating-community-guidelines.html + +http://stateofthenation.co/?p=12320 BILL GATES: A Menace to Society Who Must Be Arrested and Prosecuted for Crimes Against Humanity | SOTN: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary +http://stateofthenation.co/?p=11910 Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT PhD Crushes Dr. Fauci, Exposes Birx, Clintons, Bill Gates & W.H.O. (Video) | SOTN: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary + + ## https://www.sott.net/article/434188-The-well-known-hazards-of-coronavirus-vaccines by Dr. Joseph Mercola

> Kennedy wrote a brilliant foreword to Judy Mikovits’ book "Plague of

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#_hide{ +# Dr Judy Mikovits + +## https://www.sott.net/article/434188-The-well-known-hazards-of-coronavirus-vaccines by Dr. Joseph Mercola + +> Kennedy wrote a brilliant foreword to Judy Mikovits’ book “Plague of +> Corruption,” in which he quotes his father saying, “Moral courage is the +> rarest species of bravery … rarer than the physical courage of soldiers in +> battle or great intelligence.” + +This article is worth reading. + +— + https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/04/23/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-wuhan/

# NIH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health

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TUC radio: EllenBownPublicBank TWO

-###### {#gdyvm_goo_cal_guest_list}  +###### {#gdyvm_goo_cal_guest_list}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#gdyvm_goo_cal_guest_list

# google calendar guest perms: See guest list << DISabling this | exposing gig email address lists

@@ -17066,6 +17066,10 @@

https://soundcloud.com/user-182465442 to http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:245586665/sounds.rss

+## more soundcloud + +https://caiustheory.com/soundcloud-rss-feeds/ + ## http://picklemonkey.net/feedflipper-home/

http://picklemonkey.net/feedflipper-home/ is supposed to convert itunes to RSS.

diff -w -u -r1.990 -r1.991 — site.body.markdown 2020/05/02 14:38:04 1.990 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/05/06 18:38:03 1.991 @@ -4419,6 +4419,24 @@

TUC radio: EllenBownPublicBank TWO

+###### {#gdyvm_goo_cal_guest_list}  + +# google calendar guest perms: See guest list << DISabling this | exposing gig email address lists + +| Google Calendar events have a setting: +| +| guest permissions +| +| See guest list <<< be sure this is unchecked. +
+Consider a long list like example-group–discussion@googlegroups.com that +is one of the calendar event guests. IMHO it’s best not to expose email +addresses, so privacy is protected, and list members’ exposure to subsequent +spam is limited. + +Conclusion: as a rule uncheck “See guest list” for a calendar event. + + ###### {#cugam_Group_Emailing_Best_Practices}

######

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+# NIH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health + +# WHO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization + # http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2020/04/another-expert-challenges-assertions.html

## Professor Stuart Newman, professor of cell biology and anatomy at New York Medical College

# http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2020/04/theory-of-how-sars-coc-2-was-created-in.html

-## Dr. Petrovsky, of Flinders University, Australia +## Prof Nikolai Petrovsky, of Flinders University, Australia

Viruses in prolonged culture will also develop other random mutations that do not affect its function. The result of these experiments is a virus =================================================================== diff -w -u -r1.988 -r1.989 — site.body.markdown 2020/05/01 16:55:06 1.988 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/05/02 12:38:05 1.989 @@ -17810,6 +17810,27 @@ #_hide{ https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/04/23/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-wuhan/

+# http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2020/04/another-expert-challenges-assertions.html + +## Professor Stuart Newman, professor of cell biology and anatomy at New York Medical College + +# http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2020/04/theory-of-how-sars-coc-2-was-created-in.html + +## Dr. Petrovsky, of Flinders University, Australia + +> Viruses in prolonged culture will also develop other random mutations that +> do not affect its function. The result of these experiments is a virus +> that is highly virulent in humans but is sufficiently different that it no +> longer resembles the original bat virus. Because the mutations are acquired +> randomly by selection there is no signature of a human gene jockey, but this +> is clearly a virus still created by human intervention. + +# http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2020/04/theory-of-how-sars-coc-2-was-created-in.html + +# ACE2 + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiotensin-converting_enzyme_2 + #_hide}

###### {#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff}  :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff :covid-19:Larry Romanoff:Romanoff:

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-###### {#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection}  {{{ lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection +###### {#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection}  {{{ lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection

# spoiler effect collection

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-###### {#suxiy_Peter_Martin_Phillips_Intro__O072ObioO072O} +###### {#suxiy_Peter_Martin_Phillips_Intro__O072ObioO072O}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#suxiy_Peter_Martin_Phillips_Intro__O072ObioO072O

# Peter Martin Phillips Intro  :bio:

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-Open letter dialog continues on ‘spoiler effect/safe-state-strategy’ +###### {#esflo_Open_letter_dialog_continues_on_AsqtAspoiler_effectAslashAsafe-state-strategyAsqtA} + +Open letter dialog continues on ‘spoiler effect/safe-state-strategy’ + : continued by Z Magazine / Mike Albert [“Disagreement and Vituperation”] I do not agree w/Albert, but he attempts to be very fair and rational. He claims some of the GP debate/response was unfair/overly-aggressive, and praises @@ -20596,6 +20599,12 @@

# spoiler effect collection

+Howie responds to Bill McKibben: + +https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/04/28/ranked-choice-voting-an-idea-whose-time-has-come/ + +Bill McKibben – GPUS should not run presidencial candidate; instead the should campaign for instant run off voting/RCV: + https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/instead-of-challenging-joe-biden-maybe-the-green-party-could-help-change-our-democracy

MIxgezeuieLO wmekh_Michael_AlbertAsqtAs_AsqtAopen_letterAsqtA_to_Howie_Hawkins {  @@ -21072,6 +21081,11 @@


+Open letter dialog continues on ‘spoiler effect/safe-state-strategy’ + +— + + :end MIxgezeuieLO wmekh_Michael_AlbertAsqtAs_AsqtAopen_letterAsqtA_to_Howie_Hawkins } 

oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection }}} 

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###### {#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez

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              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+# shame, abandonment, betrayal| mind-body/culture| “Archetypal Wounds and Their Healing Fields”| your “biometric information field”; within and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beyond_the_pale  + ###### {#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez

-# shame, abandonment, betrayal| mind-body/culture| “Archetypal Wounds and Their Healing Fields”| your “biometric information field”; within and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beyond_the_pale + +“Archetypal Wounds and Their Healing Fields” + shame, abandonment, betrayal| mind-body/culture| your “biometric information field”| + within and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beyond_the_pale : https://media.blubrry.com/sounds_true/content.blubrry.com/sounds_true/PD04491W_Mario-Martinez.mp3

16:00 shame/honor, abandonment/commitment, betrayal/loyalty

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              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-###### {#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez} + +###### {#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez

# shame, abandonment, betrayal| mind-body/culture| “Archetypal Wounds and Their Healing Fields”| your “biometric information field”; within and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beyond_the_pale

https://media.blubrry.com/sounds_true/content.blubrry.com/sounds_true/PD04491W_Mario-Martinez.mp3

diff -w -u -r1.977 -r1.978 — site.body.markdown 2020/04/27 13:29:37 1.977 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/04/27 13:34:28 1.978 @@ -220,9 +220,13 @@  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p: ###### {#zmnip_biometric_field_Mario-Martinez}

-# shame, anger, guilt | mind-body/culture |“Archetypal Wounds and Their Healing Fields” | your “biometric information field”; within and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beyond_the_pale : +# shame, abandonment, betrayal| mind-body/culture| “Archetypal Wounds and Their Healing Fields”| your “biometric information field”; within and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beyond_the_pale : https://media.blubrry.com/sounds_true/content.blubrry.com/sounds_true/PD04491W_Mario-Martinez.mp3

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-###### {#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection}  {{{ +###### {#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection}  {{{ lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection

# spoiler effect collection

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 :dhjfj: }}}

+###### {#oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection}  {{{ + +# spoiler effect collection + +https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/instead-of-challenging-joe-biden-maybe-the-green-party-could-help-change-our-democracy + MIxgezeuieLO wmekh_Michael_AlbertAsqtAs_AsqtAopen_letterAsqtA_to_Howie_Hawkins { 

###### {#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler :spoiler effect:

-# Michael Albert’s ‘open letter’ to Howie Hawkins | the thread +## Michael Albert’s ‘open letter’ to Howie Hawkins | the thread

| From: nym moob CHIfoos@DoesItMatter.com | To: gmfoopty-discussion@googlegroups.com @@ -21055,6 +21061,7 @@

 :end MIxgezeuieLO wmekh_Michael_AlbertAsqtAs_AsqtAopen_letterAsqtA_to_Howie_Hawkins } 

+oswdv_spoiler_effect_collection }}} 

###### {#hzvnz_covid19_health_affects}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#hzvnz_covid19_health_affects

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https://www.theverge.com/2015/6/23/8830977/google-photos-security-public-url-privacy-protected

+:=covid19statecrime:=covid19origin: :yGpqcd9YsuYr: {{{  + +#_hide{ +https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/04/23/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-wuhan/ + +#_hide}

###### {#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff}  :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff :covid-19:Larry Romanoff:Romanoff:

@@ -17869,12 +17875,16 @@

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Fort_Detrick

-###### {#eeeww_Bill_Gates}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#eeeww_Bill_Gates :=billgates: +###### {#eeeww_Bill_Gates}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#eeeww_Bill_Gates :=billgates:=gatesbill:

# Bill Gates

+https://www.globalresearch.ca/bill-gates-and-the-depopulation-agenda-robert-f-kennedy-junior-calls-for-an-investigation/5710021 + https://jamesfetzer.org/2020/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-exposes-bill-gates-vaccine-dictatorship-plan-cites-gates-twisted-messiah-complex/ #_hide}

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Some of the above make it easy for the podcaster to share an RSS feed. In most cases though the end user has to go to a related website and click multiple times before they hear anything.

-## finding an RSS feed hosted by itunes, stitcher, podbean, soundcloud, libsyn…  :=rssfind: +## finding an RSS feed hosted by itunes, stitcher, podbean, soundcloud, libsyn…  :=rssfind:=soundcloudfind:=podbeanfind:=libsynfind:=stitcherfind:=buzzsproutfind:=spotifyfind:

You can with varying degrees of success – fail, partly ok, to great you can convert some of these services to RSS using tools covered next. =================================================================== diff -w -u -r1.971 -r1.972 — site.body.markdown 2020/04/23 15:21:44 1.971 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/04/23 16:38:06 1.972 @@ -17346,8 +17346,7 @@ # Epstein | reference-collection

Whitney Webb Speaks w/ The First Epstein Victim To Come Forward, About A MSM Cover Up, Naming Names https://youtu.be/miDWjOjXDHE -#MariaFarmer -#MariaFarmer +#MariaFarmer | Apr 2020

###### {#fnjqg_wwebsummer_epstein-investig}  https://zq3q.org/pco/#fnjqg_wwebsummer_epstein-investig

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+###### {#unhgh_Epstein_wrapr}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#unhgh_Epstein_wrapr + +# Epstein | reference-collection + +Whitney Webb Speaks w/ The First Epstein Victim To Come Forward, About A MSM Cover Up, Naming Names https://youtu.be/miDWjOjXDHE +#MariaFarmer +#MariaFarmer + ###### {#fnjqg_wwebsummer_epstein-investig}  https://zq3q.org/pco/#fnjqg_wwebsummer_epstein-investig

# 4 part summer 2019 Epstein-investigation series by Whitney Webb

diff -w -u -r1.969 -r1.970 — site.body.markdown 2020/04/21 16:38:05 1.969 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/04/22 12:38:06 1.970 @@ -21037,6 +21037,13 @@

 :end MIxgezeuieLO wmekh_Michael_AlbertAsqtAs_AsqtAopen_letterAsqtA_to_Howie_Hawkins } 

-:p0 +:p1 ###### {#voowr_covid19_}  :covid-19:sfw: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#voowr_covid19_

# covid-19

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-###### {#qhisp_IntroAslashAPromoAslashAWrapper_for_MMT} +###### {#qhisp_IntroAslashAPromoAslashAWrapper_for_MMT}  :=mmtzq: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#qhisp_IntroAslashAPromoAslashAWrapper_for_MMT

# Intro/Promo/Wrapper for MMT

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https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Fort_Detrick

+###### {#eeeww_Bill_Gates}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#eeeww_Bill_Gates :=billgates: + +# Bill Gates + +#_hide{ + +https://jamesfetzer.org/2020/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-exposes-bill-gates-vaccine-dictatorship-plan-cites-gates-twisted-messiah-complex/ +#_hide} +

###### {#qlefq_Serban_V.C._Enache_intro}

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-###### {#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff}  :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff +###### {#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff}  :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff :covid-19:Larry Romanoff:Romanoff:

# Larry Romanoff

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List the assertions he states, and check them.

+Anthrax False Flag Expert Barry Kissin: “Romanoff’s Version of COVID-19 Conspiracy Doesn’t Hold Up” + ### The virus strains are significantly different: China, Spain, Italy, Iran…

### The Wuhan lab is not a bio weapons lab

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MIxgezeuieLO wmekh_Michael_AlbertAsqtAs_AsqtAopen_letterAsqtA_to_Howie_Hawkins { 

-###### {#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler +###### {#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler :spoiler effect:

# Michael Albert’s ‘open letter’ to Howie Hawkins | the thread

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+MIxgezeuieLO wmekh_Michael_AlbertAsqtAs_AsqtAopen_letterAsqtA_to_Howie_Hawkins {  + +###### {#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#wabyc_AlbertHawkins_spoiler + +# Michael Albert’s ‘open letter’ to Howie Hawkins | the thread + +| From: nym moob CHIfoos@DoesItMatter.com +| To: gmfoopty-discussion@googlegroups.com +| Subject: Jack Rasmus responds to Michael Albert’s ‘open letter’ to Howie Hawkins [spoiler effect/“lesser evilism”] +| Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 06:47:50 -0600 +| — +| + wget –no-check-certificate -O - https://jackrasmus.com/2020/01/27/you-can-trust-left-liberals-to-be-liberals-first-and-left-last-a-reply-to-chomsky-freinds-open-letter +| +| The Green vote in the swing states would not have gone to Hillary. +| Those who voted Green would have instead stayed home and not voted +| or would have written in some other candidate. Most Greens are Green +| because they’ve come to understand what the Democrats in the era of +| Neoliberalism really stand for, both in domestic and foreign policy: +| escalating income inequality, precarious jobs, stagnant wages, +| unaffordable healthcare, poverty in retirement, rising rents, +| continuous wars, incessant tax cuts for the rich and their +| corporations, indenture to student debt, etc. That’s the legacy of +| both Republican and Democrat regimes since the 1970s–i.e. the past +| 50 years now. […] +| +| Joe Biden is just another corporate moneybag wing Hillary clone. Not +| for nothing is he known as ‘bankers friend Joe’ from Delaware (where +| many big banks have their headquarters and politically own the +| state). Ditto for the corporate Dems backup candidate, Mike +| Bloomberg, a lifelong Republican billionaire only recently joined +| the corporate wing of the Dems. […] +| +| I’d support Sanders, but he’ll never get the Democrat nomination. +| Even if he wins the primaries. For this isn’t the Democrat party of +| FDR any more, as much as Bernie would like it to be. It’s a +| corporate wing run party since Bill Clinton. +| +| [… full article:] +| +| You Can Trust ‘Left Liberals’ to be Liberals First (and Left Last): A Reply to +| Chomsky & Friends’ Open Letter +| +| January 27, 2020 by [1]jackrasmus +| +| This past weekend a group best identified as ‘left liberal’ +| intellectuals posted an Open Letter’ to the Green Party charging that +| party with being responsible for Hillary Clinton’s loss in 2016. They +| then declared that the Green Party’s 2020 presidential candidate, Howie +| Hawkins, should not run in 2020, lest the Greens become responsible for +| getting Trump re-elected again. Everything should be done to ensure +| that a Democrat Party candidate, whomever that might be, should win in +| 2020. That includes even Joe Biden, they say. Left liberals like +| themselves should simply ‘hold their noses’ and vote for Biden, if +| necessary, if he gets the nomination. +| +| For someone like yours truly who has been around and seen the same +| strategy of ‘lesser evilism’ repeated for a half century now–with +| devastating consequences even when the lesser evil (aka Democrats) won +| the presidency–it is not surprising to read and hear the ‘left +| liberals’ lament once again! +| +| The coterie signatories of the ‘open letter’ include: Noam Chomsky, +| Barbara Ehrenreich, Bill Fletcher, Leslie Cagan, Ron Daniels, slim +| Kelly, Norman Solomon, Cynthia Peters and Michael Albert. +| +| Their main argument, calling for Hawkins and the Greens to retreat from +| the 2020 electoral field (and for the record I am not a Green party +| member or a member of any other party), is that Hillary lost the swing +| states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc. to Trump in 2016 but +| would have won them–and thus the electoral college vote–if only those +| who voted for the Greens presidential candidate, Jill Stein, in the +| swing states had not done so but voted instead for Hillary. +| +| It’s really a logically weak argument that one would think such ‘power +| intellectuals on the left’ would be hesitant to pen their name to it +| out of concern they would have insulted themselves to their audience. +| But they have. +| +| The argument fails not only on the facts but on the amateur assumptions +| on which it also rests. +| +| First, logically it is juvenile in that it assumes that those who voted +| for the Greens in 2016 in these swing states would have voted for +| Hillary, had there not been a Green candidate on the ballot. Its hidden +| assumption is that all of those Green votes would have voted Hillary +| had Jill Stein not run. That these assumptions are nonsense is self +| evident. +| +| Clearly those who voted Green did so because they couldn’t stand +| Hillary, or knew of her record, or understood that a vote for Hillary +| would have meant a vote for war as well as more of the same failed +| economic policies of the Bill Clinton-Obama era that created the real +| conditions that gave rise to Trump. +| +| The Green vote in the swing states would not have gone to Hillary. +| Those who voted Green would have instead stayed home and not voted or +| would have written in some other candidate. Most Greens are Green +| because they’ve come to understand what the Democrats in the era of +| Neoliberalism really stand for, both in domestic and foreign policy: +| escalating income inequality, precarious jobs, stagnant wages, +| unaffordable healthcare, poverty in retirement, rising rents, +| continuous wars, incessant tax cuts for the rich and their +| corporations, indenture to student debt, etc. That’s the legacy of both +| Republican and Democrat regimes since the 1970s–i.e. the past 50 years +| now. +| +| Apart from weak logic and absurd (not so hidden) assumptions of the +| Open Letter, there’s the voting evidence as well as Hillary’s own +| self-destructive arrogance that explain the Democrats loss of the swing +| states in 2016 and thus the rise of Trump. +| +| First, the Left Liberal authors of the Open Letter in question fail to +| explain that in the swing states Libertarian and other independent +| voters cast three and four times the votes for Trump than the Green +| party cast for its candidate, Dr. Jill Stein, in 2016. SO was it the +| Greens’ fault? The Libertarians? Other third parties? +| +| No, none of the above. Hillary herself lost the swing states and handed +| Trump the presidency when she refused to even bother to campaign in +| states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and barely showed up until the very +| end when it was already too late. Hillary thought she had the ‘blue +| collar’ vote in those states wrapped up and arrogantly ignored +| campaigning there. She ignored them. Took them for granted. And no one +| votes for someone who arrogantly ignores them and takes them for +| granted. Even if no Greens voted at all, Hillary would have lost the +| swing states. But the Open Letter would have us believe it was someone +| else’s fault, not Hillary’s. +| +| If the Democrat leadership wants to win back swing state votes, it +| needs someone ‘not Hillary’. But Joe Biden is just another corporate +| moneybag wing Hillary clone. Not for nothing is he known as ‘bankers +| friend Joe’ from Delaware (where many big banks have their headquarters +| and politically own the state). Ditto for the corporate Dems backup +| candidate, Mike Bloomberg, a lifelong Republican billionaire only +| recently joined the corporate wing of the Dems. +| +| The fundamental argument of the Left Liberals’ in their Open Letter is +| not just stop Trump by any means but, their argument behind the +| argument that there’s a fundamental difference in voting for a +| Democrat. (Or at least the corollary argument that the Democrat won’t +| screw us as badly as will the Republican). +| +| But what does the historical evidence show? Have the Corporate +| Democrats been really any better over the past half century? +| +| American voters, especially today’s Millenials, and now the GenZers, in +| polls are saying ‘a plague on both houses’ of Democrats and +| Republicans. They have lost hope of either party making a difference in +| their lives. They see both as contributing to their deteriorating +| conditions and near hopeless future, consisting of a lifetime of +| precarious, part time/temp jobs, with no benefits, working two and +| sometimes even three jobs to make ends meet, without affordable rents, +| and no chance of owning a home, living a life of indentured labor +| paying $1.6 trillion in student loans to the US government (at 6.8% +| interest, by the way, while bankers pay 1.6%), without affordable +| health insurance (including the soaring deductibles under Obamacare), +| unable to afford to even start a family. It’s a bleak prospect, created +| by both parties over recent decades. +| +| It’s not coincidental that polls show, by well more than 50%, even as +| high as 70%, that the more than 50 million Millenials and GenZers +| prefer something called ‘socialism’ (although they’re probably not sure +| what that means except ‘none of the present’). +| +| If the DLC-Corporate-moneybag wing of the Democrat leadership puts up a +| Biden or a Bloomberg–(i.e. latter their fallback at the Democrat party +| convention after no one gets the nomination on the first vote)–even +| more youth will not vote Democrat. And not just in the swing states. +| And if the Democrat leaders continue to scuttle the Sanders +| nomination–which they did in 2016 and show signs now of doing again in +| 2020–the Dems themselves, not a Green party candidacy, will once again +| have put Trump in office. It won’t be the Greens. +| +| Of course Republican ‘red state’ control of electoral college votes is +| being ensured by voter suppression and gerrymandering. That will play a +| role as well. But here the Democrats’ loss of state legislatures and +| governorships under Obama, due to his ineffective economic policies in +| 2010 and after, have enabled that suppression and gerrymandering +| largely to happen as well. It made possible the Republican capture of +| two thirds of state legislatures, many of which have been pushing the +| voter suppression and gerrymandering. +| +| It’s not for nothing that Obama is sometimes referred to by youth as +| ‘president Jello’–meaning he appears to move left and right but really +| is stuck in one place. +| +| The Left Liberals’ Open Letter buys the Democrat moneybag wing’s +| argument that a Joe Biden (or Mike Bloomberg) argument that Corporate +| Democrat programs and policies are fundamentally better for average +| voters than would be Trump’s. +| +| They think that the typical working class voter in the swing states, +| that abandoned Hillary in 2016 (or actually vice-versa), can’t figure +| out the game. Or that youth voters today can’t either. But they’re +| wrong. +| +| Voters remember it was Bill Clinton had enabled NAFTA and sent millions +| of heartland American jobs offshore. It was Clinton that allowed +| hundreds of thousands of skilled tech workers into the US every year +| under H1-B/L-1 visas. It was Clinton that gave China preferred trading +| rights and allowed the shift of US manufacturing supply chains (and +| millions more good paying jobs) to China. It was Clinton that allowed +| corporations to ‘check the box’ on their tax forms and thereby not pay +| taxes on foreign profits. It was Clinton that permitted companies to +| divert funds from pension plans to pay for their corporations’ share of +| escalating health care costs. It was Clinton that allowed the +| deregulation of financial institutions that paved the way for subprime +| mortgages and the crash of 2008-09. The list is longer still. +| +| And what about the corporate Democrats’ last minute hand picked +| candidate in 2008, Barack Obama? It was Obama that gave corporations $6 +| trillion in tax cuts from 2009-16, almost twice that even George W. +| Bush gave them. It was Obama who agreed to $1.5 trillion in social +| program spending cuts in 2011-13, thus taking back more than twice his +| 2009 recovery package of $878 billion. It was Obama who extended Bush’s +| tax cuts two years, 2010-12, and then made them permanent after 2013, +| amounting to another $5 trillion tax cuts for business and investors. +| It was Obama who continued Free Trade deals despite their obvious +| effects on jobs and wages, and then tried to push through the TPP trade +| deal. It was Obama who had the Federal Reserve bail out the banks and +| investors with the tune of at least $4.5 trillion, while he gave a mere +| $25 billion to bail out just a few of the 14 million who lost their +| homes. It was Obama who let Hillary start wars in Honduras to save the +| big landowners there, and then gave Hillary the green light in Libya to +| start another, creating that failed state there (as her hubby Bill did +| in Somalia). It was Obama that authorized and set the precedent for +| assassinations by drones (over 500 times on his watch). It was Obama +| who supported the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, to continue +| loaning banks free money, at an interest rate of 0.15% for seven years, +| long after the banks were bailed out, while charging millions of US +| students interest of 6.8% on their student loans to the government. +| +| This is the decades long record that the Left Liberals want the US +| working class, students, and others to vote for again. Their argument +| is ‘anything but Trump’ will be better. But was it? Will it? Trump +| might give us war with Iran. But Democrats might with Russia. Both +| would give us invading Venezuela and continuing to rape South America. +| +| I’m not talking here about Sanders, who the corporate wing will never +| allow as the Democrat party candidate in 2020. In fact, now that +| Sanders is rising in the polls and primaries, the corporate wing of the +| Democrats attack on him has intensified. Not just from Hillary, but +| from Warren, from the New myhost07 Times, and, as we’ll soon see, from all +| quarters of the Liberal Elite and their media and their grass roots +| operatives. Observing how Trump captured the Republican party, two +| years ago the Democrats’ leaders changed the rules of the game on how +| the party will run its convention this summer. They are prepared to +| scuttle Sanders by any means necessary. +| +| But our Left Liberal intellectuals say we should vote for their +| candidate, Joe, if it comes down to that, just to beat Trump. But Trump +| will eat ‘ole Joe’ alive in a one on one competition, sad to say. They +| keep saying they want a candidate that can beat Trump. Then push one +| who cannot. And the Left Liberals want us to vote for Joe and not for a +| Green or anyone else. That’s the only way to win! It may be the sure +| way to lose! +| +| Vote for Joe and hold your nose, they say. The Left Liberal +| intellectuals, who are mostly well ensconced in secure and decent +| paying academic jobs, won’t be impacted much by Joe’s or Mike’s or +| Pelosi’s or Shumer’s policies. But the rest who need a change will be. +| +| The Open Letter represents just another form of ‘Liberal’ telling us to +| vote for another Liberal. Where has that gotten us? +| +| It’s the old ‘shell game’: Republicans make their capitalists filthy +| rich and ruin the economy in the process. Corporate Democrats come in +| and make the same even richer while failing to solve the crisis. Their +| failure allows the Republicans to point to their failed recovery, again +| to lie to us, and get back in. The process starts all over. It’s been +| that way for at least 50 years. +| +| And the Left Liberal intellectuals want us to buy into it for another +| 50? +| +| I’d support Sanders, but he’ll never get the Democrat nomination. Even +| if he wins the primaries. For this isn’t the Democrat party of FDR any +| more, as much as Bernie would like it to be. It’s a corporate wing run +| party since Bill Clinton. And the Left Liberal intellectuals have +| bought into the corporate wing’s lie yet again, as they always have in +| a crisis. +| +| One wonders if they’ll vote for Sanders, should he run as an +| independent after the Democrat leadership denies him the nomination at +| their convention this summer. But I bet they’d still vote for Joe. +| (Correct that: Mike). +| +| Jack Rasmus January 28, 2020 +| +| […] +| +| References +| +| 1. https://jackrasmus.com/author/jackrasmus/ +| +| From: nym moob CHIfoos@DoesItMatter.com +| To: gmfoopty-discussion@googlegroups.com +| Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Response_to_Michael_Albert’s_=E2=80=9CBattle_Strategica?= +| =?UTF-8?Q?lly_Everywhere=E2=80=9D_|_Howie_Hawkins_2/5/20?= +| Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2020 07:27:09 -0600 +| — +| * wget –no-check-certificate -O - +| https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/05/left-election-strategy-less +| er-evil-or-independent-left/ [February 5, 2020][Left Election +| Strategy: Lesser Evil or Independent +| Left?](https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/05/left-election-strate +| gy-lesser-evil-or-independent-left/) +| =================================================================== +| =================================================================== +| ===================== +| +| [by] [[1]Howie Hawkins] […] +| +| A Response to Michael Albert’s “Battle Strategically Everywhere” +| +| [2]Michael[3]Albert’s safe states[4]strategy says the Green +| presidential candidate should go into the battleground states to +| campaign for the Green program but then say vote for the Democratic +| ticket. Most people who hear that will wonder why the Greens are even +| bothering to campaign if they want us to vote for the Democrat. Media +| commentary will make fun of it. Safe-states messaging in the +| battleground states will also undermine the Green campaign in the +| so-called safe states. Why vote for a Green candidate in this state who +| is telling people in other states to vote Democratic? Safe states is +| just not a serious approach grounded in the practical realities of +| election campaigning. +| +| Albert even suggests that Greens should work for Bernie Sanders in the +| Democratic primaries. The Greens have their own primaries and ballot +| access petitions to do. They are busy with ongoing issue campaigns. It +| is not the job of the Green Party to help a candidate in another party +| win that party’s nomination. +| +| Albert argues that electing a Democratic president, even a Biden or a +| Bloomberg, is needed to stem the rising authoritarian right around the +| world that Trump is very much a part of. I don’t see much Democratic +| anti-authoritarianism. A strong majority of congressional Democrats +| consistently supports the US global military empire that enforces +| authoritarian stability against democratic uprisings. They support +| Trump’s attempted coup in Venezuela. The previous Democratic +| administration backed the anti-democratic coups in Honduras, Egypt, and +| Ukraine. Trump’s imperial presidency builds on dangerous autocratic +| precedents set by Obama’s presidency, notably his thousands of +| drone-strike assassinations and his unprecedented use of the repressive +| 1917 Espionage Act to prosecute whistleblowers. +| +| There are differences between the Democrats and Republicans. The +| problem is how much they agree on pro-corporate economic and foreign +| policies. The Democrats’ “all-of-the-above” pro gas and oil energy +| policy is not much different from Trump’s policy in its practical +| effect on the climate. The nuclear weapons modernization program +| initiated under Obama and continued under Trump has sparked a new +| nuclear arms race without challenge from any but a very few +| congressional Democrats. I could go on at length. Voting for the lesser +| evil does not stem the greater evil; it legitimizes it. +| +| When a progressive votes for the Democrat as the lesser evil, nobody +| knows if their vote is from a Sanders socialist or a Clinton +| corporatist. It gets lost in the sauce. The progressive Democratic +| votes are seen as votes for the corporate militarist Democratic agenda. +| On the other hand, nobody confuses what a vote on the Green Party line +| means. +| +| Democrats take progressive votes for granted. They feel they have +| progressive voters in their pocket. As long as prominent progressives +| promulgate lesser-evil doctrines like safe states, Democrats are +| reassured that they can appeal to voters of the center-right without +| worrying that progressive voters will bolt for the Green left +| alternative. +| +| The safe states strategy is inside baseball that requires knowing how +| the Electoral College works and what the polls say in a particular +| state going into the voting booth. Most voters are not steeped in those +| details, or care much about them if they are. Most people use their +| vote to make a statement about their values and the policies they want. +| For example, most Democrats vote Democratic even in overwhelmingly +| Republican districts where their candidate has no chance of winning. +| Often that values-and-policies vote is defensive; it is simply against +| what they see as the greater evil. Telling progressives to vote for the +| lesser-evil Democrat is telling them to vote against their values and +| the policies they want. It is telling them to vote against the Green +| left alternative. +| +| In response to my statement that a 2016 vote for Jill Stein was “a vote +| to demand a Green New Deal, improved Medicare for All, a job guarantee, +| student debt relief, ending US military aggression, and fair +| elections,” Albert asks “how did that go?” +| +| Well, every presidential candidate, Democratic and Republican, is now +| talking about the Green Party’s signature issue of the last decade, the +| Green New Deal. The Democratic versions may be watered down. The +| Republicans may be creating sham caricatures of it to ridicule. But +| everybody is now talking about it. The Greens are in the debate as the +| original Green New Dealers with the full-strength emergency program for +| averting climate apocalypse. Getting into the debate is half the +| battle. That is what third parties have done historically in the US. +| They force neglected solutions onto the nation’s agenda. +| +| When I ran for governor of New myhost07 in 2014 against the Democratic +| governor, Andrew Cuomo, I got 5 percent of the vote campaigning for a +| ban on fracking, a $15 minimum wage, paid family leave, and +| tuition-free public college, among other demands that the governor +| either opposed or ducked taking a position on. Cuomo had wanted to get +| a higher vote than he got in 2010, more than his father Mario Cuomo +| ever got, in order the lay the foundation for a presidential run. +| Instead, his vote went down from 2010. Realizing that he could not take +| our 5% progressive voting block for granted anymore, in his following +| term Cuomo began calling himself the “pragmatic progressive” and backed +| the fracking ban, the $15 minimum wage, paid family leave, and a new +| state scholarship for public college students. +| +| Voting for what you want works. It makes the politicians come to you to +| compete for your vote. As Eugene Debs famously said, “It is better to +| vote for what you want and not get it, than to vote for what you don’t +| want and get it.” That is not just a moral statement; it is a strategic +| statement. +| +| Let me end with a point of agreement. Michael Albert is correct to note +| that he and the others who signed their Open Letter advocating a safe +| states strategy for the Greens are on the left. They are not the same +| as the regular Democrats who routinely attack the Greens as “spoilers,” +| “useful idiots for Republicans,” “Russian assets,” and, more +| consequentially, work to keep Greens off the ballot with their lawyers +| filing challenges to Green ballot petitions, their [5]officials +| “losing” Green ballot access filings, and their legislators [6]changing +| election laws to make it harder for the Greens to qualify for the +| ballot. +| +| It may be understandable that Greens who are under this constant +| assault saw the Open Letter as another incoming salvo coming from the +| same Democratic army’s artillery. But I would urge Greens and others on +| the independent left who want to argue against lesser-evil and +| safe-states electoral strategies not to conflate our progressive +| critics with the corporate Democrats. +| +| Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a progressive to the right of the signers +| of the Open Letter on electoral strategy because [7]she advocates a +| Democratic vote in every race. But she made an important point recently +| when she noted that in any other country [8]she and Joe Biden would not +| be in the same political party. The Greens and the signers of the Open +| Letter would be in the same political party in any country with a +| reasonable electoral system based on proportional representation in +| legislatures and ranked-choice voting for executive offices. +| +| Despite our differences on electoral strategy in 2020, we have broad +| agreement on policy demands. We should have our strategy debate with +| the idea that we are allies on policy, including transforming our +| anti-democratic electoral system, and that we want to get to a future +| where we are comrades in the same major party of the left. +| +| […] +| +| References +| +| 1. https://www.counterpunch.org/author/chutha/ +| 2. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/31/battle-strategically-everywhere-response-to-hawkins-reply-to-open-letter/ +| 3. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/31/battle-strategically-everywhere-response-to-hawkins-reply-to-open-letter/ +| 4. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/31/battle-strategically-everywhere-response-to-hawkins-reply-to-open-letter/ +| 5. http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176656/tomgram:frida_berrigan,“we_get_to_live_in_the_mayor’s_house!”/ +| 6. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/nyregion/election-third-party-ny.html +| 7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW31C8Z4tOU +| 8. https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-joe-biden-would-not-be-in-the-same-party-2020-1 +| + +— + +H Hawkins responds to ‘Open Letter’ + +— + +The Open Letter and the DNC | Rob Urie + +— + + :end MIxgezeuieLO wmekh_Michael_AlbertAsqtAs_AsqtAopen_letterAsqtA_to_Howie_Hawkins }  + :pcolabnewadd :pcobot: 

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+Joe Lauria on Assange, Manning, Wikileaks |Mar 2020 + +— + ###### {#brbwr_chinas_own_covid_timeline}

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+cpr news podcast + Senior Producer at Community Public Radio in NYC. Don seems to be an older seasoned (reporter?) http://cprmetro.blogspot.com/ , w/smokers voice, is cynical about Dems; possibly Marxist–Leninist.

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+>                           Green County Recount Minutes
+> 
+> Dates of Recount:         Thursday, December 1, 2016
+>                                  Called to order at 9:00 am
+>                                  Recessed for lunch from 11:30 am to 12:00 pm
+>                                  Recessed for the day at 4:00 pm
+>                           Friday, December 2, 2016
+>                                  Reconvened at 8:00 am
+>                                  Recessed for lunch from 12:00 pm to 12:45 pm
+>                                  Recessed for the day at 2:00 pm
+>                           Monday, December 5, 2016
+>                                  Reconvened at 8:00 am
+>                                  Adjourned at 11:30 am
+> 
+> County:                         Green
+> 
+> Office to be Recounted:         President of the United States,
+>                                 November 8, 2016 election results
+> 
+> Location of Recount:            County Board Room, Green County Courthouse
+>                                 1016 16th Ave, Monroe, WI
+> 
+> Original Results:               Trump/Pence received 8,693 votes
+>                                 Clinton/Kaine received 9,122 votes
+>                                 Castle/Bradley received 79 votes
+>                                 Johnson/Weld received 687 votes
+>                                 Stein/Baraka received 196 votes
+>                                 Moorehead/Lilly received 11 votes
+>                                 De La Fuente/Steinburg received 4 votes
+>                                 Fox/Kushner received 0 votes
+>                                 McMullin/Johnson received 36 votes
+>                                 Maturen/Munoz received 0 votes
+>                                 Schoenke/Mitchell received 0 votes
+>                                 Keniston/Taylor received 0 votes
+>                                 Kotlikoff/Leamer received 0 votes
+>                                 Hoefling/Schulin received 0 votes
+>                                 Maldonado received 1 vote
+>                                 Soltysik/Walker received 0 votes
+>                                 Scattering received 156 votes
+
+Nice that they show all presidential candidates.
+
+> 
+> Canvass Board Members:          Michael J. Doyle, Green County Clerk
+>                                 John Waelti, Democratic Board Member
+>                                 Rolland Karlen, Republican Board Member
+> 
+> Other Personnel:                Wendy Tschudy, Deputy County Clerk
+>                                 Tabulators:
+>                                          Ann Schwartz
+>                                          Dennis Schwartz
+>                                          Diane Morrissey
+>                                          Amy McCullough
+> 
+> Others Present:     See attached sign-in sheets for observers:
+>                     Attachment B1: Green County Recount Observers Log dated
+>                                                             December 1, 2016
+>                     Attachment B2: Green County Recount Observers Log dated
+>                                                             December 2, 2016
+>                     Attachment B3: Green County Recount Observers Log dated
+>                                                             December 5, 2016
+
+Could not find above attachments.
+
+> Notification:       Agenda/notice posted on county website on November 29 at 4:10 pm
+>                     Agenda/notice posted on county's bulletin board on November 29 at
+>                          4:10 pm
+>                     Agenda/notice emailed to county's official newspaper on November 29
+>                          at 4:10 pm
+>                     Agenda/notice emailed to WEC on November 30 at 8:36 am
+> 
+> Hand Counted Ballot Results:
+>      See Attachment A: Hand Counted Ballot Results
+> 
+> Recount Results:                  Trump/Pence received 8,693 votes
+>                                   Clinton/Kaine received 9,122 votes
+>                                   Castle/Bradley received 79 votes
+>                                   Johnson/Weld received 687 votes
+>                                   Stein/Baraka received 196 votes
+>                                   Moorehead/Lilly received 11 votes
+>                                   De La Fuente/Steinburg received 4 votes
+>                                   Fox/Kushner received 0 votes
+>                                   McMullin/Johnson received 48 votes
+>                                   Maturen/Munoz received 0 votes
+>                                   Schoenke/Mitchell received 0 votes
+>                                   Keniston/Taylor received 0 votes
+>                                   Kotlikoff/Leamer received 0 votes
+>                                   Hoefling/Schulin received 0 votes
+>                                   Maldonado received 1 vote
+>                                   Soltysik/Walker received 0 votes
+>                                   Scattering received 144 votes
+
+
+> Original Results:    Trump/Pence received 8,693 votes          |> Recount Results:    Trump/Pence received 8,693 votes
+>                      Clinton/Kaine received 9,122 votes        |>                     Clinton/Kaine received 9,122 votes
+>                      Castle/Bradley received 79 votes          |>                     Castle/Bradley received 79 votes
+>                      Johnson/Weld received 687 votes           |>                     Johnson/Weld received 687 votes
+>                      Stein/Baraka received 196 votes           |>                     Stein/Baraka received 196 votes
+>                      Moorehead/Lilly received 11 votes         |>                     Moorehead/Lilly received 11 votes
+>                      De La Fuente/Steinburg received 4 votes   |>                     De La Fuente/Steinburg received 4 votes
+>                      Fox/Kushner received 0 votes              |>                     Fox/Kushner received 0 votes
+>                      McMullin/Johnson received 36 votes        |>                     McMullin/Johnson received 48 votes
+
+McMullin/Johnson undercounted in election by 12 votes.
+
+>                      Maturen/Munoz received 0 votes            |>                     Maturen/Munoz received 0 votes
+>                      Schoenke/Mitchell received 0 votes        |>                     Schoenke/Mitchell received 0 votes
+>                      Keniston/Taylor received 0 votes          |>                     Keniston/Taylor received 0 votes
+>                      Kotlikoff/Leamer received 0 votes         |>                     Kotlikoff/Leamer received 0 votes
+>                      Hoefling/Schulin received 0 votes         |>                     Hoefling/Schulin received 0 votes
+>                      Maldonado received 1 vote                 |>                     Maldonado received 1 vote
+>                      Soltysik/Walker received 0 votes          |>                     Soltysik/Walker received 0 votes
+>                      Scattering received 156 votes             |>                     Scattering received 144 votes
+
+SCATTERING/write-ins overcounted in election by 12 votes.
+
+> Additional Attachment to the Minutes:
+>             Attachment C: Copy of Amended Canvass Certification 
+
+I checked above, ie http://elections.wi.gov/sites/default/files/recount_2016/green_county_original_certified_canvass_results_pd_18811.pdf
+and it agrees with 'Recount Results' in this doc.
+
+> Additional Notes:
+> ?     Ballots are being hand counted for the recount, after electronic tabulation on election
+>     day.
+> ?   All personnel assisting with the recount currently hold an appointed or elected office,
+>     and because of their position, they are currently under an Oath of Office. All
+>     tabulators have been administered an Oath of Office.
+
+Notable/good.
+
+> ?   Sealed ballot bags and all materials from the election were stored in the conference
+>     room located directly off the board room where the recount was conducted. The
+>     remaining recount supplies were located in the board room itself. The conference
+>     room was locked and secured during at all times that the board was recessed,
+>     including lunch periods. The board room was guarded during lunch recesses, and
+>     was emptied of all materials overnight, since the room is unable to be locked.
+
+Notable/good.
+
+> ?   There were NO provisional ballots in any municipality.
+> ?   Poll book review and reconciliation was done by spot checking.
+> ?   Absentee ballot review was accelerated when the number of envelopes matched.
+
+What is meant by above?
+
+What was count of Absentee ballots?
+
+> 
+> 
+>                                                         Michael J. Doyle, Green County Clerk
+> 
+: }}}  /a/moobt/pj/rcwi/minutes/green/green_county_unapproved_recount_minutes_12_2016_pd_56654.txt
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+> Thank you for volunteering to help read the minutes – the official
+> record – of the statewide Wisconsin Presidential election recount. We’re
+> compiling evidence to build a convincing case for the public that
+> Wisconsin law has no safeguards to confirm the accuracy of the results
+> of any election. The information could be used to contest the recount,
+> to further ongoing investigations into the integrity of the 2016
+> election, and to shape and promote reform efforts.
+> 
+> Instructions for Volunteers
+> 
+> Getting Started:
+> 
+> 1.  Download the recount manual from the State website at
+>     http://elections.wi.gov/manuals/recount#attachments  and read pages
+>     6-13
+
+> so you’ll understand the activities the minutes are intended
+>     to document.
+> 2.  Create a folder on your computer for the materials you’ll use for
+>     this project.
+> 3.  Open the  spreadsheet at http://bit.ly/wiminutesnewchart . 
+
+>     You have
+>     two options for working on this spreadsheet: a) You can make a co py
+>     of it and work on it in Google Docs, or b) you can download it to
+>     your computer and work on it in Excel.
+> 
+> To use option a): Select “M ake a copy” from the File menu  and rename
+> the file, substituting your name for the capitalized text.
+> 
+> (Example:” 2016RecountMinutesFindings_JaneDoe ”)
+> To use option b): Select “Download as” and then “Microsoft Excel” from
+> the File menu. Save it to the new folder you created, renaming the file,
+> substituting your name for the capitalized text.
+>  (Example:”2016RecountMinutesFindings_JaneDoe”)
+> 
+> Important: Do not add, subtract, or rearrange the columns on your
+> spreadsheet. We will be combining spreadsheets for 72 counties, and the
+> columns need to match for that to be done easily and accurately. The
+> column lab els are explained in a little note for each column, which you
+> can view if you hover your pointer over the little triangle in the top
+> right corner of the cell that contains the column label.
+> 
+> 4.  Go to this link:
+>     http://elections.wi.gov/elections-voting/recount/2016-presidential  
+
+>     Scroll through the alphabetical list to find the name of the county
+>     whose minutes you’ll be reading. Click on the county name to open
+>     its page.   Download the Recount Minutes document or documents
+>      (file names may vary)  to the new folder on your computer . If
+>     there are both “approved” and “unapproved” versions, download both.
+>     Do not change the document names. Open both documents and choose the
+>     longer  one for this project.
+> 5.  Complete one copy of the cover sheet for each county. The file name
+>     should be RecountMinutesReviewCoverSheet_COUNTYNAME. 
+
+> The cover sheet
+>     asks what voting equipment was used. If you’re not sure, you can
+>     look up that information at
+>     http://elections.wi.gov/elections-voting/voting-equipment/voting-equipment-use
+
+> 6.  As you read the minutes, you’ll be entering irregularities you find
+>     into the spreadsheet, one incident per line. Please fill in as much
+>     of the requested information as you can. You may be able to copy and
+>     paste some of the information directly from the minutes. Not all
+>     information will be available in every case. Do the best you can.
+
+> 7.  Email your completed spreadsheet, your cover sheet for each county
+>     you did, and copies of all minutes you downloaded to
+>     jennifer.miller218@gmail.com . 
+
+>     If you finish your assignment and
+>     can do another, or if you have questions, contact Jen at
+>     503-332-4877 ).
+
+> 8.  Download your completed spreadsheet. Attach the spreadsheet and all
+>      files you downloaded from the WEC website to an email to us. Use
+>     the subject line: Recount Minutes Project -- [name of county].
+> 9.  The deadline for sending in your spreadsheets is Weds (December 14)
+>     . Again, you’ll receive information well before then about where to
+>     send them.
+> 
+> What to look for as you read
+> 
+> We’re looking for a few categories of information :
+> 
+> 1.  Any change in vote totals for any candidate.
+> 2.  Any indication that the materials used in the recount may not have
+>     been a complete and accurate record of the election, including but
+>     not limited to:
+> 
+> -   Ballot bags that were presented for recounting with rips or in an
+>     unsealed condition.
+> -   Seal numbers on bags missing or changed.
+> -   Disturbed seals on ballot bags.
+> -   Bags of ballots that don’t appear on inspector’s report.
+> -   Missing bags of ballots. (For example, one bag marked “bag 2 of 2,”
+>     but no bag 1 found.)
+> -   Unsigned inspector’s reports
+> -   Wrong election date on poll tapes
+> -   “Draw downs” of ballots
+> 
+> 3.  More ballots than voters or more voters than ballots.
+> 4.  Evidence that indicates a crime may have been committed. (Not simply
+>     opportunity for crime, of which there were plenty.)
+> 5.  Important stories about the recount that need to be told.
+> 6.  Differences of opinion about whether or a specific vote should be
+>     counted (disagreement between election worker and observer, or
+>     original count and recount). Examples:
+> 
+> -   Absentee ballots counted despite lack of signature
+> -   Ballots for which objections were raised by campaign observers
+> 
+> To a great extent, you’ll have to use your own judgment about what to
+> include in your spreadsheet. When in doubt, include the incident .
+> 
+> Logging the information:
+> 
+> -   When you start on a new municipality, county, etc., make sure to
+>     fill in the column with its name.
+> -   When you read about an irregularity that affected which votes were
+>     counted, try to determine the number of votes affected. It’s
+>     important to log every number of votes changed, even if it’s only 1
+>     or 2.
+> 
+> Again, thank you very much for your help with this crucial project. We
+> look forward to seeing your findings.
+> 
+> Glossary of Terms (will be added to as needed)
+> 
+> Board of Canvassers: body that certifies the results of election and
+> make official determination of election winners
+> 
+> Canvass total versus recount or new totals: Canvass totals are the vote
+> counts from election night. The vote totals from the recount are
+> sometimes referred to as “recount totals” and sometimes as “new totals.”
+> 
+> Draw-downs: When there are more ballots than there should be in a batch,
+> the procedure counties have been instructed to follow is to randomly
+> select the number of ballots that are ‘extra.’ This is known as a
+> “draw-down.” These randomly selected ballots are not counted. Please
+> note any draw-downs on your spreadsheet.
+> 
+> DREs: Direct Record Electronic voting machines. These are also known as
+> “touch-screen machines.” They produce a “paper tape” (like a roll of
+> toilet paper) that supposedly shows the voter how her/his votes are
+> being recorded. In some WI counties, the paper tapes were cut apart so
+> each voter’s votes were separate, and the votes on them counted by hand.
+> It’s important to know that DREs can be programmed to show the voter
+> their correct vote on both the touchscreen and the paper tape, but count
+> the vote incorrectly.
+> 
+> Inspectors: Polling place workers in charge of carrying out and
+> documenting election procedures according to law and policy.
+> 
+> Machine calibration: Adjustment of electronic voting machines that can
+> affect, for example, how precisely correct the marking of a ballot must
+> be in order to be counted accurately. Intentional miscalibration is one
+> available method of election rigging.
+> 
+> Op-scan: Short for optical scan, this term refers to the electronic
+> vote-counting machines that tabulate paper ballots. These machines can
+> be hacked or rigged.
+> 
+> Overvotes: More candidates chosen on a voter’s ballot than they are
+> permitted to select for a given office. For example, if a voter who
+> marks TWO presidential candidates on their ballot, that ballot would be
+> considered an overvote for president and should not be counted.
+> 
+> Paper Tape: See DREs, above.
+> 
+> Poll books: The list of eligible voters used at each polling place to
+> track who has voted.
+> 
+> Seals (AKA Tags): Numbered seals are used as a security measure to deter
+> unauthorized access to sensitive election materials such as ballots and
+> voting machines. Seal numbers are written in a log and must be checked
+> against that log before being broken. If the numbered seal on a
+> container of ballots does not match the number in the log, the chain of
+> custody has been broken. This is a serious problem.
+> 
+> Tabulators: This word is used in WI elections to mean two totally
+> different things! Humans who are tabulators assist in the recount
+> procedures. Optical scan voting machines are also referred to as
+> tabulators.
+> 
+> Tags: See “Seals,” above.
+> 
+> Undervotes: A ballot on which no vote is recorded for the office in
+> question is said to have an “undervote” for that office. Optical scan
+> machines fail to register some votes even when the human eye could
+> determine the voter’s intent. When a race that was originally tabulated
+> by optical scanners is recounted by hand, the number of undervotes will
+> often decrease.
+> 
+> Voter intent: How the voter meant to vote. Even when an optical scanner
+> fails to register a voter’s vote, inspection by human beings can often
+> reveal the voter intent, resulting in a previously uncounted vote being
+> counted.
+> 
+> Prepared by Emily Levy , RecountNow.org 12/10/16.
+> 
+> Last updated 12/10/16, 11:45pm
+> --snip
+> > Date: local  : Sat, 10 Dec 2016 23:51:18 -0600
+> > To:  Emily Levy <juiceforjustice@gmail.com>
+> > From: Emily Levy <juiceforjustice@gmail.com>
+> > Subject: [READ and SAVE] Recount Minutes Project -- cover sheet, glossary, links
+> > 
+> > *Cover Sheet:*
+> > The promised cover sheet is now ready for you. Please download this sheet
+> > each time you start a new county. Save it with the subject line,
+> > "RecountMinutesReviewCoverSheet_COUNTYNAME" (replacing "COUNTYNAME" with
+> > the name of the county you've reviewed). The link to the cover sheet is:
+> > http://bit.ly/wiminutescover
+> > 
+> > *Links:*
+> > Here are the links to the documents and other resources you need for this
+> > project. I thought it would be useful for you to have them all in one place.
+> > Spreadsheet template: http://bit.ly/wiminutesnewchart
+> > Instructions for project: http://bit.ly/wiminutesintro
+> > Cover sheet, as noted above: http://bit.ly/wiminutescover
+> > Wisconsin recount manual:
+> > http://elections.wi.gov/manuals/recount#attachments
+> > Download the minutes for your assigned county here:
+> > http://elections.wi.gov/elections-voting/recount/2016-presidential
+> > Find out what kind of voting machines your assigned county used here:
+> > http://elections.wi.gov/elections-voting/voting-equipment/voting-equipment-use
+> > 
+> > *Glossary of Terms*
+> > By request, I've added a brief glossary of terms to the bottom of the
+> > instructions sheet. Again, the link to that is http://bit.ly/wiminutesintro.
+> > This may be added to as needed, so if a term you need isn't defined, let
+> > Jen or me know, and we'll try to add it.
+> > 
+> > We need to get your work back from you by this Wednesday. Please only take
+> > on as much as you're sure you'll be able to do by then.
+> > 
+> > Thanks for all you're doing! We know this is a really challenging project!
+> > 
+> > Emily
+> > 
+: }}}  /a/moobt/pj/rcwi/minutes/2016_Instructions_for_Volunteers_Reading_WI_Minutes00.txt
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+
+>                                       Recount Minutes
+>                                        Shawano County
+>                                       Presidential Office
+>
+> The meeting of the Board of Canvass was called to order at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday, December 1,
+> 2016 in the lower level of the Shawano County Courthouse.
+>
+> Office to be recounted: President of the United States
+> Canvass Board Members: Betty Lohrengel, Republican; Lorraine Zehren, Democrat; Leanne
+> Watry, Deputy County Clerk
+> Others present: County Clerk Pamela Schmidt and Rosemary Rueckert, recording secretary
+> Tabulators: Judy Gaza, Trisha Hoffman, Debra Hull, Kate Jeffries-Felts, Nancy Folkman, Carol
+> Kleist, Marvin Klosterman, Sandy Laehn, slim Luebke, Jim Mitchell, Maureen Oleson, Gwen
+> Olsen, Jackie Radloff, Patsy Robertson, Tanya Sherman, Rick Stadelman, Susan Stadelman,
+> Phyllis Uelman,
+>
+>
+> Pamela Schmidt, County Clerk requested all tabulators to take an Oath of Office. She then
+> performed the oath. All tabulators signed their oath of office and the forms are on file in the
+> County Clerk's office.
+
+Good.
+
+
+> County Clerk Schmidt stated that a smaller municipality would be chosen to demonstrate to the
+> tabulators the process of the recount. They would then be assigned various duties.
+>
+>
+> LeAnn Watry, Deputy County Clerk, announced that all presidential candidates were notified of
+> the recount. The notification was completed by the Wisconsin Election Commission. The open
+> meeting of the Board of Canvass to recount ballots for President of the United States was
+> properly posted by the County Clerk. All members of the Board of Canvass were also notified.
+>
+>
+> A motion was made by Lohrengel, seconded by Zehren, to count ballots three different ways.
+> Some ballots will be hand counted,
+> some ballots will be counted by the Eagle tabulator
+> and some ballots will be hand counted from the Edge tapes or spools.
+> Motion carried.
+> (This method was later modified and all municipalities' ballots were counted by hand)
+
+IMP: all municipalities' ballots were counted by hand
+
+
+> The results of the recount for each municipality are as follows:
+>
+>
+> Town of Almon
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 194, Clinton 81, Castle 0, Johnson 7, Stein 1,
+> Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 1, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 286
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 18
+> Number of Absentee ballots: 18
+
+nice
+
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted.
+> Recount totals: Trump 194, Clinton 81, Castle 0, Johnson 7, Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La
+> Fuente 1, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Recount Vote Totals Results: No change to any original totals
+
+No mention of write ins / scattering.
+
+orig pres. vote count:                      284
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    286
+recount pres. votes:                        284
+
+> Town of Angelica
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-3
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 683, Clinton 221, Castle.6, Johnson 27, Stein 4,
+> Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 2, Fox 0, McMullin 5, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 965
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 107
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 105
+> Notes: Ballots were counted by tabulator, but numbers were off slightly.
+
+Interesting above/see below also.
+
+> All ballots were then
+> counted by hand. Three ballots were not read by the machine due to vote's intent not
+> detected. Voter marked very short lines but did not connect arrow or underlined candidate.
+> Ballots were hand counted due to the discrepancy.
+
+So did the recount voting machine behave differently than the election day machine - not clear to me.
+
+Seems election day machine, and recount day machine may have both detected "undervotes", ie
+missing votes for president, perhaps they differed though in that count of "undervotes"?
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 686, Clinton 221, Castle.6, Johnson 27,
+> Stein 4, Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 2, Fox 0, McMullin 5, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Recount Results: Change in Trump increased by 3 votes. No other changes.
+
+3 vote increase for Trump.
+
+orig pres. vote count:                      943
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    965
+recount pres. votes:                        946
+
+> Town of Aniwa
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 170, Clinton 74, Castle 0, Johnson 9, Stein 2,
+> Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 2, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 257
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 19
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 19
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 170, Clinton 74, Castle 0, Johnson 9, Stein 2,
+> Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 2, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Recount results: No change in totals
+
+orig pres vote count:           259
+Voters from Registration List:  257
+recount pres. votes:            259
+
+So 2 votes more than Registration List!!
+
+> Town of Bartelme
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 72, Clinton 221, Castle 3, Johnson 6, Stein 16,
+> Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 322
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 14
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 13
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. One absentee not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 72, Clinton 221, Castle 3, Johnson 6, Stein 16,
+> Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Recount Results: No change in totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                       319
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    322
+recount pres. votes:                        319
+
+So 2 fewer votes than Registration List.
+
+> Town of Belle Plaine
+> Reporting Unit: Wards 1-3
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 650, Clinton 270, Castle 6, Johnson 35, Stein 2,
+> Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, Mc Mullin 4, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 992
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 131
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 130
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. The numbers were not the same as election night. Several
+> ballots had very short lines and did not totally connect the arrow. Tabulator could not detect
+> voter's intent.
+
+> Several ballots circled candidate or did not connect arrow.
+
+> Several voter's ballots did not vote for president.
+
+> One absentee ballot not returned.
+
+> Exhibit # 2 - Reviewed a ballot,
+> person voted for 2 candidates, assume ballot was not counted. The ballot was marked with
+> exhibit #2 and placed in a separate envelope. Did not count.
+
+Why was not voting machine programmed to reject the '2 candidate selection'?
+
+> Exhibit #3 - One ballot had very short markings by the candidate selected. Board of Canvasser
+> (BOC) believed that machine did not count this ballot. BOC voted to accept the ballot because
+> voter's intent could be determined.
+
+Possible false under count / machine short coming.
+Nice work, that they recovered 1 vote.
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 658, Clinton 272, Castle 6, Johnson 37, Stein 2,
+> Moorehead 1, DeLa Fuente 0, Fox 0, Mc Mullin 4, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump increased by 8, Clinton increased by 2, Johnson increased by 2.
+
+orig pres vote count:                       968
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    992
+recount pres. votes:                        980
+
+There were 980 - 968 or 12 additional pres. votes after recount.
+
+Registration List had 12 more votes than the 980 after recount.  Some of these
+could be those voters that did not vote for president as noted in their report.
+
+> Town of Birnamwood
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 210, Clinton 125 , Castle 2., Johnson 7, Stein 3,
+> Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 357
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 22
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 22
+> Notes: First attempt, the ballots were counted with tabulator. Tabulator was borrowed from a
+> different municipality. Numbers were not the same as election night.
+
+Machine recount results mismatched, enough that they were ignored, and hand recount was done.
+
+> It was decided to hand
+> count the ballots and look for voters intent. Machine did not detect several ballots when the
+> arrow was not totally connected when selecting candidates.
+
+Voting machine not designed to see; probably ignored "incompletely connected 'arrow'" votes.
+
+> Some candidates selected were circled.
+
+Voting machine not designed to see; probably ignored "circle-selected votes".
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 214, Clinton 125, Castle 2, Johnson 8,
+> Stein 4, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Recount Result : Trump received 4 more votes. Stein received 1 more vote.
+
+orig pres vote count:                       346
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    357
+recount pres. votes:                        353
+
+Registration list had 4 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+Changes
+    Trump:      +4
+    Johnson:    +1
+    Stein:      +1
+
+> Town of Fairbanks
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 243, Clinton 56 , Castle 1, Johnson 13 , Stein 3,
+> Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 318
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 8
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 8
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. One ballot marked as Exhibit #9, Town of Fairbanks. One voter T
+> Frederick voted by absentee and application is on file, but no affidavit envelope. Municipal
+> Clerk was contacted and could not find envelope and BOC accepted the additional ballot. Not
+> the voters fault.
+
+Accepted 1 absentee ballot w/o affidavit envelope; "Not the voters fault.".
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 243, Clinton 56 , Castle 1, Johnson 13 , Stein 3,
+> Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Kenistoni 0,
+> Kotlifoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysiki 0
+> Recount Results: No change in totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                      316
+Number of Voters from Registration List:   318
+recount pres. votes:                       316
+
+Registration list had 2 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Town of Germania
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 110, Clinton 69, Castle 0, Johnson 3,
+> Stein 2, Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 186
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 12
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 10
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. Two absentee ballots not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 110, Clinton 70, Castle 0, Johnson 3,
+> Stein 2, Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Change - 1 more vote for Clinton
+
+orig pres vote count:                       185
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    186
+recount pres. votes:                        186
+
+Recount Results: Change - 1 more vote for Clinton
+
+Not clear if additional vote was due machine not detecting voter intent, or
+to 1 ballot not counted at all in election.
+
+> Town of Grant
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1 - 2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 363, Clinton 97, Castle 4, Johnson 10,
+> Stein 5, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Votes from Registration List: 480
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 17
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 17
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 363, Clinton 97, Castle 4, Johnson 10,
+> Stein 5, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change to any totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                       479
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    480
+recount pres. votes:                        479
+
+Registration list had 1 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Town of Green Valley
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1 -2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 369, Clinton 133, Castle 4, Johnson 19,
+> Stein 3, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 535
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 26
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 26
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. No issues.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 369, Clinton 133, Castle 4, Johnson 19,
+> Stein 3, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change to totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                       529
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    535
+recount pres. votes:                        529
+
+Registration list had 6 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Town of Hartland
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 309, Clinton 58, Castle 0, Johnson 19,
+> Stein 0, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 1, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 395
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 27
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 25
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. 2 absentee ballots not returned
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 311, Clinton 59, Castle 0, Johnson 19,
+> Stein 0, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 1, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff, Hoefling, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump increased by 2 votes, Clinton increased by 1 vote.
+
+orig pres vote count:                       389
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    395
+recount pres. votes:                        392
+
+Registration list had 3 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+"Recount Results: Trump increased by 2 votes, Clinton increased by 1 vote."
+
+Not clear if additional vote(s) due machine not detecting voter intent, or
+to  ballot(s) not counted at all in election.
+
+> Town of Herman
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 269, Clinton 93, Castle 4, Johnson 7,
+> Stein 3, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 8, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 383
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 13
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 13
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted.
+
+> There were 384 ballots with only 383 voters. Inspector statement showed that when a voter
+> was casting a vote on the DRE (touch screen voting machine) it ran out of paper. Inspectors did
+> not think the vote was counted and allowed person to use optical scan ballot also. The BOC at
+> random pulled one ballot out of the pile of ballots. Trump was marked on the selected ballot
+> and the tally sheet was adjusted. Trump lost 1 vote. This ballot was marked as Exhibit # 7
+
+> Recount Vote total for Reporting Unit: Trump 268, Clinton 93, Castle 4, Johnson 7,
+> Stein 13, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 8, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump lost 1 vote.
+
+orig pres vote count:                       384
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    383
+recount pres. votes:                        393
+
+Registration list had 1 less voters than pres. votes in election.
+One voter may have voted twice...:
+
+    There were 384 ballots with only 383
+    voters. Inspector statement showed that when a
+    voter was casting a vote on the DRE (touch screen
+    voting machine) it ran out of paper. Inspectors
+    did not think the vote was counted and allowed
+    person to use optical scan ballot also. The BOC
+    at random pulled one ballot out of the pile of
+    ballots. Trump was marked on the selected ballot
+    and the tally sheet was adjusted. Trump lost 1
+    vote. This ballot was marked as Exhibit # 7
+
+Registration list had 10 less voters than pres. votes in recall!
+
+"Recount Results: Trump lost 1 vote."
+
+Stein gained 10 (typo in their report?).
+
+> Town of Hutchins
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 202, Clinton 62, Castle 4, Johnson 10,
+> Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 287
+
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 24
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 24
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. Voter was allowed to vote at the Clerk's office, but the
+> application envelope was not witnessed by the municipal clerk. The ballot was accepted on
+> election night and was also accepted by the BOC. The envelope was marked as exhibit # 1. And
+> placed back in the municipal clerk's county supply envelope.
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 203, Clinton 63, Castle 4, Johnson 10, Stein 1,
+> Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change in totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                       279
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    287
+recount pres. votes:                        281
+
+Registration list had 6 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+Recount changes:
+    Trump:      +1
+    Clinton:    +1
+
+Not clear if additional vote(s) due machine not detecting voter intent, or
+to  ballot(s) not counted at all in election.
+
+> Town of Lessor
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 490, Clinton 141, Castle 3, Johnson 21,
+> Stein 0, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 666
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 42
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 40
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. Two absentee ballots not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit : Trump 490, Clinton 141, Castle 3, Johnson 21,
+> Stein 0, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 4, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: McMullin received 2 more votes.
+
+orig pres vote count:                       657
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    666
+recount pres. votes:                        659
+
+Registration list had 7 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+"Recount Results: McMullin received 2 more votes."
+
+Not clear if additional vote(s) due machine not detecting voter intent, or
+to  ballot(s) not counted at all in election.
+
+> Town of Maple Grove
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 320, Clinton 147, Castle 2, Johnson 11,
+> Stein 3, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoeflin 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 492
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 64
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 64
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 320, Clinton 147, Castle 2, Johnson 11,
+> Stein 3, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change to totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                       483
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    492
+recount pres. votes:                        483
+
+Registration list had 9 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+The trend seems to be that the registration list is almost always a few votes higher than
+the recount of total pres. votes *and* that the recount report as a rule does not mention the number
+of ballots w/o pres. votes.  I assume it is these ballots w/o  pres. votes that explain the
+higher count on the registration list.
+
+> Town of Morris
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 131, Clinton 80, Castle 3, Johnson 6,
+> Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 226
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 20
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 20
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted no major issues.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 131, Clinton 79, Castle 3, Johnson 6,
+> Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Clinton lost 1 vote.
+
+orig pres vote count:                       221
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    226
+recount pres. votes:                        220
+
+Registration list had 6 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+"Recount Results: Clinton lost 1 vote."
+
+Since machines seem careful not to guess voter intent, it is hard to understand how
+this could happen.  There is no reported explanation for this lost vote.
+
+> Town of Navarino
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 162, Clinton 65, Castle 0, Johnson 5,
+> Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 4, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 240
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 13
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 13
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 162, Clinton 65, Castle 0, Johnson 5,
+> Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 4, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change
+
+orig pres vote count:                       237
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    240
+recount pres. votes:                        237
+
+Registration list had 3 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Town of Pella
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 378, Clinton 98, Castle 0, Johnson 14,
+> Stein 2, Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 498
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 34
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 34
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 378, Clinton 98, Castle 0, Johnson 14,
+> Stein 2, Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change to any totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                       495
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    498
+recount pres. votes:                        495
+
+Registration list had 3 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Town of Red Springs
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 189, Clinton 219, Castle 3, Johnson 12,
+> Stein 9, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 444
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 40
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 40
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 190, Clinton 219, Castle 3, Johnson 12,
+> Stein 9, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump received 1 more vote.
+
+orig pres vote count:                       434
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    444
+recount pres. votes:                        435
+
+"Recount Results: Trump received 1 more vote."
+
+Registration list had 9 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+Not clear if additional vote(s) due machine not detecting voter intent, or
+to  ballot(s) not counted at all in election.
+
+> Town of Richmond
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-3
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 740, Clinton 254, Castle 5, Johnson 25,
+> Stein 6 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 1049
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 167
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 163
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted: Upon hand counting the number of ballots, 1050 were counted.
+
+From above that *all* ballots were hand counted.
+
+Total count of ballots (1050) was one more than count in Registration List (1049).
+
+> One blank ballot for the presidential race was withdrawn. This ballot was marked as Exhibit #
+> 10. This process did not affect the total votes cast for president.
+
+So no vote for pres. on withdrawn ballot.
+
+> The tabulator showed 10 under votes.
+
+10 ballots w/o pres. vote.
+
+> After hand counting the ballots, 8 ballots were found that the machine was unable to
+> detect the voter's intent.
+
+I assume, in hand count intent was determined.
+
+> Two ballots were blank for the presidential office.
+
+> Four absentee ballots were not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 735, Clinton 257, Castle 5, Johnson 26,
+> Stein 6 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump received 5 more votes, Clinton received 3 more votes and Johnson
+> received 1 more vote.
+
+Minutes say:
+    Recount Results: 
+        Trump received      5 more votes, 
+        Clinton received    3 more votes and 
+        Johnson received    1 more vote.
+
+ERROR: their tallies above show in the recount:
+    Trump   *lost*      5 votes
+    Clinton gained      3 votes
+    Johnson gained      1 vote
+
+    Overall lost        1 vote
+
+hand count of paper ballots:                1050
+orig pres vote count:                       1030
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    1049
+recount pres. votes:                        1029
+recount- no vote for pres:                     2 (an additional one was thrown out)
+recount- eyeball detected intent:              8?
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 20 -2 -1 = 17
+
+Registration list had 20 more voters than pres. votes in recall;
+mentioned they found 2 ballots found without pres. votes (add 1 more
+for the thrown out ballot); that still suggests 17 more on register
+than the total number of ballots.  So what about these 17?
+
+> Town of Seneca
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 176, Clinton 88, Castle 3, Johnson 9,
+> Stein 3 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 282
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 26
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 26
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 176, Clinton 88, Castle 3, Johnson 9,
+> Stein 3 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change to totals previously reported.
+
+orig pres vote count:                       279
+Number of Voters from Registration List:    282
+recount- pres. votes:                       279
+recount- no vote for pres:                    0
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 3
+Registration list had 3 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Town of Washington
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 668, Clinton 282, Castle 9, Johnson 16,
+> Stein 7, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 1007
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 95
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 95
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. Trump received 1 more vote with the optical scan ballots.
+
+> County Board of Canvass missed 5 for McMullin when reconciling County Canvass.
+
+?
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 669, Clinton 282, Castle 9, Johnson 17 ,
+> Stein 7, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 5, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: 
+>   Trump received    1 more vote,
+>   Johnson received  1 more and 
+>   McMullen increase 5 more votes.
+
+recount chgs by candidate:
+    Trump:      +1
+    Johnson:    +1
+    McMullen:   +5
+
+Not clear if additional vote(s) due machine not detecting voter intent, or
+to  ballot(s) not counted at all in election.
+
+orig pres vote count:                   982
+count of voters on registration list:  1007
+recount- pres. votes:                   989
+recount- no vote for pres:                0
+recount- eyeball detected intent:         7?
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 18
+Registration list had 18 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+tags:   #intent?
+
+> Town of Waukechon
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 385, Clinton 107, Castle 0, Johnson 29,
+> Stein 5, Moorehead 1 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 538
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 19
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 18
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. Increase in totals due to tabulating machine that could not
+> detect voter's intent. 
+
+> One absentee ballot not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 388, Clinton 109, Castle 0, Johnson 29,
+> Stein 5, Moorehead 1 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 3, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump increased by 3 votes, Clinton increased by 2 votes, McMullin
+> increased by 1 vote
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    Clinton              :  +2
+    Trump                :  +3
+    McMullin             :  +1
+
+orig pres vote count:                   529
+count of voters on registration list:   538
+recount- pres. votes:                   535
+recount- no vote for pres:                0
+recount- eyeball detected intent          6
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 3
+Registration list had 3 more/less voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+tags: #intent
+
+> Town of Wescott
+> Reporting Unit: Wards 1-5
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 1107, Clinton 532, Castle 5, Johnson 45,
+> Stein 10, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 1732
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 533
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 531
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted Two absentee ballots not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 1107, Clinton 532, Castle 5, Johnson 45,
+> Stein 10, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 3, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: McMullin gained 1 vote.
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    McMullin             :  +1
+    ------------------------------
+                   Total :  +1
+
+orig pres vote count:                   1701
+count of voters on registration list:   1732
+recount- pres. votes:                   1702
+(abs ballots)/(reg list count)            31%     (high)
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 
+Registration list had 30 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+tags: #abshigh, #intent?
+
+> Town of Wittenberg
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1-2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 296, Clinton 135, Castle 3, Johnson 11,
+> Stein 3, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 454
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 40
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 40
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted Tabulating machine did not detect voter's intent for Trump.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 298, Clinton 135, Castle 3, Johnson 11,
+> Stein 3 , Moorehead 0 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump received 2 more votes
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    Trump                :  +2
+
+orig pres vote count:                   448
+count of voters on registration list:   454
+recount- pres. votes:                   450
+recount- no vote for pres:                0
+recount- eyeball detected intent          2
+sum of absolute values of votes chgs:     2
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 4
+Registration list had 4 more/less voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+tags: #intent
+
+> Village of Aniwa
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 63, Clinton 31, Castle 2, Johnson 6, Stein 1,
+> Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 103
+> Number of absentee applications: 6
+> Number of absentee voters: 6
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. One absentee ballot not returned
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 63, Clinton 31, Castle 2, Johnson 6, Stein 1,
+> Moorehead 0, De LaFuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change to the totals.
+
+
+orig pres vote count:                   103
+count of voters on registration list:   103
+recount- pres. votes:                   103
+
+perfect!
+
+> Village of Birnamwood
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 183, Clinton 117, Castle 0, Johnson 10 ,
+> Stein 5 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 319
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 14
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 13
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted and 
+
+> Municipal BOC miscounted total of ballots. Trump lost one
+> vote. One absentee ballot not returned. One ballot marked Exhibit #11 was over voted. 
+> We believe municipal Board of Canvass counted Trump in error.
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 182, Clinton 117, Castle 0 , Johnson 10 ,
+> Stein 5 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump lost 1 vote.
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    Trump                :  -1
+
+w/r to above "downvote", hard to see how machine could over count?!
+
+orig pres vote count:                   315
+count of voters on registration list:   319
+recount- pres. votes:                   314
+recount- no vote for pres:              
+recount- eyeball detected intent:       
+recount- pres. over vote:                 1
+
+#tags: #overvote, #downvote
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-or-over-votes) ) = 4
+Registration list had 5 more voters than pres. votes in recall; only 1
+(an overvote) is mentioned in their report.
+
+> Village of Bonduel
+> Reporting Unit: Wards 1 -2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 496, Clinton 168 , Castle 4 , Johnson 27,
+> Stein 4, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 3, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 717
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 121
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 118
+
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. Municipal BOC miscounted paper ballots for Johnson. Two
+> absentee ballots not returned. 
+
+> One person voted in person and did not return original
+> absentee ballot.
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 496, Clinton168, Castle 4, Johnson 26,
+> Stein 4 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 3, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Johnson lost 1 vote
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    Johnson              :  -1
+
+w/r to above "downvote", hard to see how machine could over count?!
+
+tags: #downvote
+orig pres vote count:                   702
+count of voters on registration list:   717
+recount- pres. votes:                   701
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 16
+Registration list had 16 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Village of Bowler
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 74, Clinton 37, Castle 0, Johnson 3,
+> Stein 5, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 1, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 321
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 6
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 5
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. One absentee ballot not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 74, Clinton 37, Castle 0, Johnson 3,
+> Stein 5 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 1, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: no change in totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                   120
+count of voters on registration list:   321
+recount- pres. votes:                   120
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 201
+Registration list had 201 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.  Maybe a typo 321 vs 121?
+
+> Village of Cecil
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 214, Clinton 91, Castle 1 , Johnson 11,
+> Stein 0, Moorehead 0 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 319
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 68
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 67
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. This municipality shares voting machine with the Town of
+> Washington as they share polling locations. One absentee voter did not return a ballot.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 214, Clinton 91, Castle 1, Johnson 11,
+> Stein 0, Moorehead 0 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: no change to previous totals.
+
+orig pres vote count:                   318
+count of voters on registration list:   319
+recount- pres. votes:                   318
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 1
+Registration list had 1 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Village of Eland
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 47, Clinton 58, Castle 0, Johnson 2,
+> Stein 1 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 113
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 12
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 12
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 47, Clinton 58, Castle 0, Johnson 2,
+> Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change to totals
+
+
+orig pres vote count:                   108
+count of voters on registration list:   113
+recount- pres. votes:                   108
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 5
+Registration list had 5 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Village of Gresham
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 120, Clinton 105, Castle 0, Johnson 10,
+> Stein 10 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 250
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 23
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 22
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. One absentee ballot not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 121, Clinton 105, Castle 0 , Johnson 9,
+> Stein 10, Moorehead 0 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff, Hoefling, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump gained one vote
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    Trump                :  +1
+
+orig pres vote count:                   245
+count of voters on registration list:   250
+recount- pres. votes:                   245
+recount- no vote for pres:              
+recount- eyeball detected intent          1  ( My assumption - they converted an undervote to a pres. vote. )
+recount- pres. over vote:               
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 5
+Registration list had 5 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Village of Mattoon
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 102, Clinton 42, Castle 1, Johnson 2,
+> Stein 0 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0 , Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 148
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 10
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 7
+
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. There were 3 ballots that were incorrectly counted on election
+> night. Trump lost 3 votes and Clinton gained 3 votes. 
+
+> There were three absentee ballots not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 99, Clinton 45, Castle 1, Johnson 2,
+> Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0 , Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump lost 3 votes, Clinton increased by 3 votes.
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    Trump                :  -3
+    Clinton              :  +3
+    Stein                :  +1   
+
+w/r to above Trump "downvote", hard to see how machine could over count?!
+
+orig pres vote count:                   147
+count of voters on registration list:   148
+recount- pres. votes:                   148
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 1
+Registration list had 1 more/less voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+#tags: #downvote, #intent
+
+> Village of Pulaski
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 4, and Ward 7
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 42, Clinton 18, Castle 1, Johnson 5,
+> Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 68
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 9
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 9
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 42, Clinton 18, Castle 1, Johnson 5,
+> Stein 1, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change to the totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                   67
+count of voters on registration list:   68
+recount- pres. votes:                   67
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 1
+Registration list had 1 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Village of Tigerton
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 230, Clinton 113, Castle 2, Johnson 7,
+> Stein 2, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 1, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0 , Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 360
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 26
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 26
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 230, Clinton 113, Castle 2 , Johnson 7,
+> Stein 2, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 1, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: No change to totals.
+
+orig pres vote count:                   355
+count of voters on registration list:   360
+recount- pres. votes:                   355
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 5
+Registration list had 5 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> Name of Municipality: Village of Wittenberg
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 1 -2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 205, Clinton 167, Castle 3, Johnson 15,
+> Stein 5 , Moorehead 0 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0 , Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 404
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 75
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 73
+
+> Notes: hand counted ballots. Two more votes found for Johnson because machine could not
+> detect voter's intent.
+
+> Two absentee ballots not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 205, Clinton 167, Castle 3, Johnson 17,
+> Stein 5 , Moorehead 0 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 2, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston
+> 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0 , Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Johnson gained 2 votes
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    Johnson              :  +2
+
+tags: #intent
+
+orig pres vote count:                   397
+count of voters on registration list:   404
+recount- pres. votes:                   399
+recount- eyeball detected intent          2 
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 5
+Registration list had 5 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> City of Marion
+> Reporting Unit: Ward 4-6
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 3, Clinton 2, Castle 0, Johnson 0,
+> Stein 0 , Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0, Keniston 0,
+> Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0 , Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 5
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 1
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 1
+
+> Notes: The Board of Canvass requested Waupaca County Board of Canvass to canvass the
+> ballots that were on the Edge tape for Ward 4-6. Ballots for Shawano County residents are on
+                           ^^^^^^^^^??
+> the same Edge tape with Waupaca County residents. This was approved by the WEC per a
+> phone call to have adjoining County canvassers complete. Results were then emailed to
+> Shawano County Clerk. 
+
+> The recount tally was then recorded. No change.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 3, Clinton 2, Castle 0, Johnson 0,
+> Stein 0, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: no change in totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                   5
+count of voters on registration list:   5
+recount- pres. votes:                   5
+
+> City of Shawano Ward 1- -2
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 351, Clinton 207, Castle 6, Johnson 22,
+> Stein 3, Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 599
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 161
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 160
+
+~27% absentee votes, seems fairly high.
+
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted, one absentee not returned. One ballot was marked as Exhibit #4
+> because BOC could not determine the voter's intent. Trump was crossed out and penciled an
+> arrow over to a different candidate (Cowles).
+
+Notice Cowles not listed, so must be write in I assume.
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 351, Clinton 207, Castle 6, Johnson 22 ,
+> Stein 3, Moorehead 1 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: McMullin received 1 more vote
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    McMullin             :  +1
+
+orig pres vote count:                   590
+count of voters on registration list:   599
+recount- pres. votes:                   591
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 1
+Registration list had 1 more/less voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+tags: #abshigh, #intent, #write-in, #flip
+
+> City of Shawano, Ward 3 - 4
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 343, Clinton 212, Castle 4, Johnson 29 ,
+> Stein 7, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 4 , Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Solltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 614
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 142
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 139
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted Three ballots not returned.
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 343, Clinton 212, Castle 4, Johnson 29 ,
+> Stein 7, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 5, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Solltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Change - McMullin add 1 vote.         No other changes.
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    McMullin             :  +1
+
+orig pres vote count:                   599
+count of voters on registration list:   614
+recount- pres. votes:                   600
+recount- eyeball detected intent:         1?
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 14
+Registration list had 14 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+tags: #intent
+
+> City of Shawano Ward 5 - 6
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 324, Clinton 237, Castle 4, Johnson 17,
+> Stein 12, Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 3 , Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 607
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 135
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 134
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. One absentee ballot not returned.
+
+> Two absentee envelopes (MU and RU) did not have the signature of the municipal clerk or
+> deputy. Both voters voted at the Clerk's office. This was not the voter's fault for the error. They
+> were marked as Exhibit #5 and Exhibit # 6 BOC voted to accept both envelopes. The ballots
+> were previously counted with no change to totals.
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 324, Clinton 237, Castle 4, Johnson 17,
+> Stein 12, Moorehead 10, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 4 , Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: McMullin - add one vote
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    McMullin             :  +1
+    Moorehead            :  +9       (typo in their report?)
+
+orig pres vote count:                   598
+count of voters on registration list:   607
+recount- pres. votes:                   608
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = -1
+Registration list had 1 less voters than pres. votes in recall.
+Suspect this was a typo in their recount count for Moorehead.
+
+tags: #intent?, #typo?
+
+
+> City of Shawano, Ward 7 - 8
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 302, Clinton 206, Castle 3, Johnson 23,
+> Stein 7, Moorehead 1, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voters from Registration List: 555
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 139
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 137
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. Two absentee ballots not returned.
+
+> One ballot marked as Exhibit #8- voter marked two candidates. BOC did not accept the ballot.
+> Treated as an overvote. Voted for Trump and Kaine. It was with the regular ballots but
+> apparently was not counted. Should have been placed in a separate envelope.
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 302, Clinton 207, Castle 3, Johnson 23,
+> Stein 7, Moorehead 1 , De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0 , Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Clinton gained 1 more vote
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    Clinton              :  +1
+
+orig pres vote count:                   542
+count of voters on registration list:   555
+recount- pres. votes:                   543
+recount- pres. over vote:                 1  "BOC did not accept the ballot."
+recount- eyeball detected intent:         1?
+
+tags: #overvote, #intent?
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 2
+Registration list had 2 more voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> City of Shawano, Ward 9 - 10
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 371, Clinton 277, Castle 3, Johnson 24,
+> Stein 8, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 2, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 702
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 242
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 239
+
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted. The changes were found on the optical scan ballots. Machine
+> could not detect voter's intent. One absentee voter deceased on election day, two absentee
+> ballots returned and refused to vote.
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 372, Clinton 276, Castle 3, Johnson 24,
+> Stein 8, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 2, Fox 0, McMullin 1, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: Trump gained 1 vote and Clinton lost 1 vote
+
+recount chgs by candidate
+    Trump                :  +1
+    Clinton              :  -1
+
+        Detecting voter intent converts only under votes (ie ballots where machine
+        detects no pres. vote) right? So how could Clinton lose a vote, unless election day
+        machine flipped the vote from Trump to Clinton?  Perhaps voter selected Clinton, then
+        made it clear w/a note on ballot that they changed to Trump.
+
+orig pres vote count:                   686
+count of voters on registration list:   702
+recount- pres. votes:                   686
+recount- eyeball detected intent          1?
+(abs ballots)/(reg list count)           34%    (seems high)
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 16
+Registration list had 16 more/less voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+tags: #abshigh, #intent, #downvote, #flip
+
+> City of Shawano, Ward 11 - 12
+> Original Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 391, Clinton 260, Castle 4, Johnson 19,
+> Stein 5, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Number of Voter from Registration List: 703
+> Number of Absentee Ballot Applications: 190
+> Number of Absentee Ballots: 186
+
+> Notes: Ballots hand counted Four absentee ballots returned, refused to vote.
+
+> Recount Vote Totals for Reporting Unit: Trump 391, Clinton 260, Castle 4, Johnson 19,
+> Stein 5, Moorehead 0, De La Fuente 0, Fox 0, McMullin 0, Matureni 0, Schoenke 0,
+> Keniston 0, Kotlikoff 0, Hoefling 0, Maldonado 0, Soltysik 0
+> Recount Results: no change to the totals
+
+orig pres vote count:                   679
+count of voters on registration list:   703
+recount- pres. votes:                   679
+(abs ballots)/(reg list count)           26%    
+
+(reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 24
+Registration list had 24 more/less voters than pres. votes in recall; no mention
+of ballots found without pres. votes.
+
+> The Board of Canvass and the tabulators worked on December 1, 2016, December
+> 2, 2016, and December 5, 2016. The meeting was recessed each day and the
+> tabulators finished at 3:00 on Monday, December 5th. The meeting was
+> adjourned at 4:00 p.m. by Leanne Watry, Deputy County Clerk. Each night after
+> tabulating the totals, the recounted totals were reported by the Clerk's office to
+> the Wisconsin Election Commission. The final canvass was processed and signed
+> by the Board of Canvassers. The final totals for all candidates are as follows:
+> Donald Trump/Michael R. Pence              12,769
+> Hilary Clinton/Tim Kaine                    6,068
+> Darrell Castle/Scott Bradley                  108
+> Gary Johnson/Bill Weld                        613
+> Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka                       173
+> Monica Moorehead/Lamont Lilly                   9
+> Rocky Roque De La Fuente/Steinberg              8
+> Cherunda Fox/Roger Kushner                      0
+> Evan McMullin/Nathan Johnson                   62
+> Michael Maturen/Juan Munoz                      0
+> Marshall Schoenke/Mitchell Jr                   0
+> Chris Keniston/Deacon Taylor                    0
+> Laurence Kotlikoff/Leamer                       0
+> nym Hoefling/Schulin                            0
+> Joseph Maldonado                                0
+> Soltysik/Walker                                 0
+>
+> The final result was that Donald Trump gained 27 votes, Clinton gained 12 votes,
+> Johnson gained 5 votes, Stein gained 1 vote, McMullin gained 14 votes and all
+> other candidates remain the same as the results certified by the County Board of
+> Canvass on November 10, 2016.
+>
+>
+> Recorded by: Rosemary Rueckert
+> Recording Secretary
+--SNIP/end of real work here.
+
+# ====================================================================== 
+# Template/reminder I used:
+# ====================================================================== 
+
+> [ ] abs ballet apps >= abs votes
+> recount chgs by candidate
+>     candidateX           :  +-n
+>     candidateY           :  +-n
+> 
+> w/r to above "downvote", hard to see how machine could over count?!
+>
+> number of paper ballots eyeballed:            
+    Rarely given, but important.
+
+> orig pres vote count:                   
+    Always given.
+> count of voters on registration list:   
+    Always given.
+> recount- pres. votes:                   
+    Always given.
+
+> recount- no vote for pres:              
+    Not often given, but imp.
+> recount- eyeball detected intent        
+    Not often given, but imp.
+> recount- pres. over vote:               
+    Not often given, but imp.
+> sum of absolute values of votes chgs:
+> 
+> (reg list) - ( (rec pres. votes) + (rec pres under-votes) ) = 
+> Registration list had ? more/less voters than pres. votes in recall; xx mention
+> of ballots found without pres. votes.
+> 
+> Not clear if additional vote(s) due machine not detecting voter intent, or
+> to  ballot(s) not counted at all in election.
+> 
+> (abs ballots)/(reg list count) > 28% ?
+> 
+> 
+> tags: #intent, #reglist, #typo?, #undervote, #overvote, #abshigh, #downvote, #flip, #abswitness, #machine
+> 
+
+How a #downvote might happen: Voter selects Trump properly, then changes mind, crosses out
+Trump, and draws an arrow to, and circles their real choice.  Machine counts vote for
+Trump, but hand count flips vote to circled selection.  See "City of Shawano Ward 1- -2".
+
+--
+I would have appreciated a count of ballots w/o presidential votes (undercounts).
+
+They did not report write-ins, even as a general “Scattering” tally..
+There is apparently one mention, in passing about a write in ( Cowles) in  “City of Shawano Ward 1- -2”.  
+
+Not tallying a count of all write-ins, probably explains why Reg List count is usually
+higher than recount of pres. votes.
+
+--
+Interesting procedure / best practices related comment:
+
+    City of Shawano, Ward 7 - 8:
+    > One ballot marked as Exhibit #8- voter marked two candidates. BOC did not accept the ballot.
+    > Treated as an overvote. Voted for Trump and Kaine. It was with the regular ballots but
+    > apparently was not counted. Should have been placed in a separate envelope.
+
+: }}}  /a/moobt/pj/rcwi/minutes/shawano/shawano_county_unapproved_recount_minutes_pdf_19278.txt
+
+## _dj job [true;( _shof $( find ~/pj/rcwi |egrep -i 'makefile|readme|\.(docx|txt|xlsx)$' |egrep -v 'RCS|foo|\.sw|zz' ) 2>&1|_pscrub )] DONE. retval: [0]        Thu 09 Apr 2020 08:38:20 PM CDT
+
+```
+
+ :dhjfj: }}}
+
:pcolabnewadd    :pcobot:       
<br>
<br>
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diff -w -u -r1.956 -r1.957
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/09 10:37:52 1.956
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/09 12:38:05 1.957
@@ -17008,12 +17008,9 @@
As I use it I will plan to add notes here.


-#_hide{

-_itunesh() {               
-    : personal function, _func_ok2unset_
+# misc methods to find RSS feeds

-    <<\____eohd
    http://www.getrssfeed.com/                  itubes torss, not tested
    http://picklemonkey.net/feedflipper-home/
    https://www.podcastinsights.com/podcast-rss-feed/#How_To_Find_YourPodcast_RSS_Feed
@@ -17027,14 +17024,59 @@

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=itunes+to+RSS&ia=web

+    + dig +noall +identify +answer cprnews.podbean.com
+    cprnews.podbean.com.    300     IN      CNAME   podbean-com-ws-7-72851604.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com.
+
+    see 
+
    others
        stitcher, spotify, spreaker, google play
+
+#_hide{
+_rssh() {
+    : personal function, _func_ok2unset_ :rss find:soundcloud:stitcher:itunes:sticher:spotify:podbean:spreaker:libsyn:google play:
+
+    <<\____eohd
+    true simple wgets for feeds; u _rssfi
+
+    http://www.getrssfeed.com/                 Paste your iTunes / SoundCloud urls and let the service retrieve the podcast public RSS feed for you  :soundcloud
+        https://soundcloud.com/new-jersey-revolution-radio  ...>   http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:219451196/sounds.rss
+        https://soundcloud.com/user-182465442 => http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:245586665/sounds.rss
+
+    http://picklemonkey.net/feedflipper-home/       itunes2rss
+
+    https://community.soundcloud.com/playlists-229933/how-do-i-find-the-rss-feed-of-a-podcast-6761727
+        To get the user id of a user, navigate to their sound cloud page in your browser. Right-click somewhere on the page and select "view page source". Then search (CTRL+F) for "soundcloud://users:" the user id is the number in that soundcloud url.
+
+    https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=https://dianne.skoll.ca/blog/index.rss
+        https://validator.w3.org/feed/docs/
+
+    https://www.adamenfroy.com/podcast-hosting
+
+    https://zq3q.org/pco/#xuhhq_Why_Your_Website_Needs_a_RSS_feed
+    https://zq3q.org/pco/#gsfrr_new_RSS_podcast_user
+
+    # podbean.com
+
+    For postcase 'foobar', view-source on the podbean foobar main podcast page for the podcast, scan visually for a foobarsSUBDOMAIN-NAME.podbean.com
+        _podchk https://foobarsSUBDOMAIN-NAME.podbean.com/feed.xml
+
+        Example that worked:
+            _podchk https://insightbygovsight.podbean.com/feed.xml
+                _podchk https://feed.podbean.com/insightbygovsight/feed.xml
+
+    https://help.podbean.com/support/solutions/articles/25000005057-what-is-my-feed-url
+
+        > Normally, your podcast feed URL is https://subdomain.podbean.com/feed.xml.
+        > Before you start to use the feed URL, please validate it at
+        > http://castfeedvalidator.com.
+
____eohd

    return
-    : end: '_itunesh()'
+    : end '_rssh()'
}
-
+_podcasth() { : _func_ok2unset_ personal isaliasfor_helponly_function _rssh ; }
#_hide}

###### {#lfvcc_COG_Continuity_of_Government}                      lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lfvcc_COG_Continuity_of_Government
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diff -w -u -r1.955 -r1.956
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/08 20:38:06 1.955
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/09 10:37:52 1.956
@@ -219,6 +219,12 @@

                 top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+###### {#brbwr_chinas_own_covid_timeline}
+
+[China's statement on Covid-19 timeline](#brbwr_chinas_own_covid_timeline)
+:   <http://www.radio4all.net/files/anonymous@radio4all.net/16-1-ContinuingPoliticsofCOVID19.mp3>
+
+---

The [covidactnow.org](https://covidactnow.org/about) model has been updated to cover not two but three possible public reactions:
:   (changes noticed on Thu 02 Apr 2020)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.954 -r1.955
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/08 16:33:13 1.954
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/08 20:38:06 1.955
@@ -17942,6 +17942,8 @@

Doctor at Queens Hospital in the UK advises on potential lifesaving corona virus breathing technique   <https://youtu.be/HwLzAdriec0>

+Dr David Price <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=98atnMKts-w&feature=emb_logo>
+
###### {#tiwqg_Ed_Heflin_was_a_Green_Partycandidate_for_Connecticut_Comptroller._}

# [Ed Heflin was a Green Party candidate for Connecticut Comptroller. ](#tiwqg_Ed_Heflin_was_a_Green_Partycandidate_for_Connecticut_Comptroller._)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.953 -r1.954
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/08 14:38:04 1.953
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/08 16:33:13 1.954
@@ -17933,6 +17933,15 @@
bryan G is the bailoutthepeople guy
#_h}

+:p0
+###### {#voowr_covid19_}         :covid-19:sfw: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#voowr_covid19_
+
+# [covid-19 ](#voowr_covid19_)
+
+washing vegetables ... <https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/04/08/coronavirus-food.aspx>
+
+Doctor at Queens Hospital in the UK advises on potential lifesaving corona virus breathing technique   <https://youtu.be/HwLzAdriec0>
+
###### {#tiwqg_Ed_Heflin_was_a_Green_Partycandidate_for_Connecticut_Comptroller._}

# [Ed Heflin was a Green Party candidate for Connecticut Comptroller. ](#tiwqg_Ed_Heflin_was_a_Green_Partycandidate_for_Connecticut_Comptroller._)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.952 -r1.953
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/07 14:06:46 1.952
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/08 14:38:04 1.953
@@ -17719,6 +17719,8 @@

<https://www.globalresearch.ca/author/larry-romanoff>

+<https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Larry_Romanoff>
+
<https://criticalstudies.org/author/larry-romanoff/>

> "Larry Romanoff is a retired management consultant and businessman. He has held executive positions in international consulting firms, and owned an international import-export business. He lives in Shanghai and is currently writing a series of ten books generally related to China and the West. He can be contacted at: 2186604556@qq.com"
@@ -17735,8 +17737,7 @@

## Work by or about Larry Romanoff

-
-This interview by Bonny Faulner introduced me:
+This interview by Bonnie Faulkner introduced me:
<http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/792399193-guns-and-butter-1-covid-usa-larry-romanoff-421.mp3>.

<https://www.newcoldwar.org/chinese-researchers-conclude-covid-19-virus-originated-outside-china/>
@@ -17759,7 +17760,6 @@

open -t Larry Romanoff
open -t g! Larry Romanoff
-open -t site: http://wikispooks.com/ Larry Romanoff
open -t w! Larry Romanoff
open -t reddit! Larry Romanoff
open -t site: http://www.sourcewatch.org Larry Romanoff
@@ -17775,6 +17775,14 @@

#_hide}

+
+###### {#zjkdf_Fort_Detrick}
+
+# [Fort Detrick](#zjkdf_Fort_Detrick)
+
+<https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Fort_Detrick>
+
+
###### {#qlefq_Serban_V.C._Enache_intro}

# [Serban V.C. Enache intro](#qlefq_Serban_V.C._Enache_intro)   :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#qlefq_Serban_V.C._Enache_intro
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.951 -r1.952
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/07 00:38:06 1.951
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/07 14:06:46 1.952
@@ -17705,7 +17705,75 @@
<https://www.theverge.com/2015/6/23/8830977/google-photos-security-public-url-privacy-protected>


+###### {#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff}     :bio:  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff

+# [Larry Romanoff](#zqgzx_Larry_Romanoff)
+
+Not vetted! Has extreme counter legacy-media view, so please be careful!
+
+He seems to be a "single source" for these view points; so be careful!
+
+<https://www.newcoldwar.org/chinese-researchers-conclude-covid-19-virus-originated-outside-china/>
+
+> "Larry Romanoff is a retired management consultant and businessman. He has held senior executive positions in international consulting firms, and owned an international import-export business. He has been a visiting professor at Shanghai’s Fudan University, presenting case studies in international affairs to senior EMBA classes. Mr. Romanoff lives in Shanghai and is currently writing a series of ten books generally related to China and the West. He can be contacted at: 2186604556@qq.com. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research."
+
+<https://www.globalresearch.ca/author/larry-romanoff>
+
+<https://criticalstudies.org/author/larry-romanoff/>
+
+> "Larry Romanoff is a retired management consultant and businessman. He has held executive positions in international consulting firms, and owned an international import-export business. He lives in Shanghai and is currently writing a series of ten books generally related to China and the West. He can be contacted at: 2186604556@qq.com"
+
+## vetting TODO
+
+List the assertions he states, and check them.
+
+### The virus strains are significantly different: China, Spain, Italy, Iran...
+
+### The Wuhan lab is not a bio weapons lab
+
+### enumerate the recent US bioweapons lab bio hazard leaks he lists and check them
+
+## Work by or about Larry Romanoff
+
+
+This interview by Bonny Faulner introduced me:
+<http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/792399193-guns-and-butter-1-covid-usa-larry-romanoff-421.mp3>.
+
+<https://www.newcoldwar.org/chinese-researchers-conclude-covid-19-virus-originated-outside-china/>
+
+<https://muckrack.com/larry-romanoff/articles>
+
+<http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/54044.htm>
+
+<http://www.defenddemocracy.press/covid-19-further-evidence-that-the-virus-originated-in-the-us/>
+
+familiarity: since Tue 07 Apr 2020 
+
+#_hide{
+https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/category/corona-virus
+
+http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1184&start=0&sid=58c0b8a844d81a450429a3ebdf734a24
+
+Larry Romanoff intro
+swap_w_Cntrl_underscore :bio:
+
+open -t Larry Romanoff
+open -t g! Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: http://wikispooks.com/ Larry Romanoff
+open -t w! Larry Romanoff
+open -t reddit! Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: http://www.sourcewatch.org Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: https://everipedia.org Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: https://www.historycommons.org/ Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: https://www.nndb.com/ Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: https://biography.com/ Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: https://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/ Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: https://www.earnthenecklace.com/ Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: https://www.revolvy.com Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: https://alchetron.com Larry Romanoff
+open -t site: https://zq3q.org/ Larry Romanoff
+
+#_hide}

###### {#qlefq_Serban_V.C._Enache_intro}

===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.950 -r1.951
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/06 18:38:04 1.950
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/07 00:38:06 1.951
@@ -16981,6 +16981,7 @@
though the end user has to go to a related website and click multiple times
before they hear anything.

+## finding an RSS feed hosted by itunes, stitcher, podbean, soundcloud, libsyn...    :=rssfind:

You can with varying degrees of success -- fail, partly ok, to great you can convert some of
these services to RSS using tools covered next.
@@ -17000,6 +17001,36 @@
<http://picklemonkey.net/feedflipper-home/> is supposed to convert itunes to RSS.
As I use it I will plan to add notes here.

+
+#_hide{
+
+_itunesh() {               
+    : personal function, _func_ok2unset_
+
+    <<\____eohd
+    http://www.getrssfeed.com/                  itubes torss, not tested
+    http://picklemonkey.net/feedflipper-home/
+    https://www.podcastinsights.com/podcast-rss-feed/#How_To_Find_YourPodcast_RSS_Feed
+    https://www.buzzsprout.com/help/31-itunes-and-your-rss-feed
+    https://blog.libsyn.com/2012/11/29/how-to-manually-subscribe-to-a-podcast-rss-feed-in-itunes-11/
+
+    https://superuser.com/questions/78415/get-rss-feed-from-itunes-podcast-links
+    https://www.apple.com/rss/
+
+    https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/rss-link-to-a-podcast-on-itunes/
+
+    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=itunes+to+RSS&ia=web
+
+    others
+        stitcher, spotify, spreaker, google play
+____eohd
+
+    return
+    : end: '_itunesh()'
+}
+
+#_hide}
+
###### {#lfvcc_COG_Continuity_of_Government}                      lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#lfvcc_COG_Continuity_of_Government

# [COG Continuity of Government](#lfvcc_COG_Continuity_of_Government)
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.949 -r1.950
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/06 13:30:53 1.949
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/06 18:38:04 1.950
@@ -18235,6 +18235,12 @@

familiarity: since Wed 26 Feb 2020

+###### {#oyirf_american_system}   :american system:dirgism:
+
+# [american system](#oyirf_american_system)
+
+<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_System_(economic_plan)>
+
###### {#snlqc_Alexander_Mercouris_intro}

# [Alexander Mercouris intro](#snlqc_Alexander_Mercouris_intro)  :bio:
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.948 -r1.949
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/06 12:53:52 1.948
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/06 13:30:53 1.949
@@ -18426,14 +18426,15 @@
host key
:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205172555-Using-your-host-key>

+co-host
+:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/206330935-Enabling-and-Adding-a-Co-Host>
+
## streaming

<https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/comments/fpe208/obs_virtual_cam_to_zoom/>

## extra cost features

-<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/206330935-Enabling-and-Adding-a-Co-Host>
-
<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005474943-Meeting-and-Webinar-Comparison>

## advanced
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diff -w -u -r1.947 -r1.948
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/05 18:02:24 1.947
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/06 12:53:52 1.948
@@ -9720,7 +9720,7 @@
> > amoral as the operatives on the right, --snip


-###### {#stoac_F._William_Engdahl}              //_h f william endall(misspelled)
+###### {#stoac_F._William_Engdahl}              //_h f william endall(misspelled)  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#stoac_F._William_Engdahl

# [F. William Engdahl](#stoac_F._William_Engdahl)   :bio:

@@ -18412,9 +18412,17 @@

## concepts / defs

+Host and Co-Host Controls in a Meeting
+:   <>
+
host role
:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362603-Host-and-Co-Host-Controls-in-a-Meeting>

+alternate host
+:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/208220166-Alternative-Host>
+
+    Above shows steps for "Designating an alternative host" in advance of a scheduled meeting (I assume?).
+
host key
:   <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205172555-Using-your-host-key>

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diff -w -u -r1.946 -r1.947
--- site.body.markdown  2020/04/05 16:38:05 1.946
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/04/05 18:02:24 1.947
@@ -18398,7 +18398,7 @@
>   15. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gdH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=p~amp;o=

-###### {#mvpig_zoom_basics} +###### {#mvpig_zoom_basics}  :=zoomh: lynx https://zq3q.org/#mvpig_zoom_basics

# zoom overview|zoom help|zoom basics

@@ -18410,12 +18410,34 @@

https://blog.zoom.us/

+## concepts / defs + +host role +: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362603-Host-and-Co-Host-Controls-in-a-Meeting + +host key +: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205172555-Using-your-host-key + +## streaming + +https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/comments/fpe208/obs_virtual_cam_to_zoom/ + +## extra cost features + +https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/206330935-Enabling-and-Adding-a-Co-Host + +https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005474943-Meeting-and-Webinar-Comparison + ## advanced

https://devforum.zoom.us/

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/2872010?hl=en

+## security + +https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-about-online-tools-during-covid-19-crisis + :pcolabnewadd :pcobot: 

=================================================================== diff -w -u -r1.945 -r1.946 — site.body.markdown 2020/04/02 14:38:04 1.945 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/04/05 16:38:05 1.946 @@ -18397,6 +18397,25 @@ > 14. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuEamp;U=5jsRlfkp25DrIsAkjg.xipamp;c=lamp;o= > 15. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gdH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuEamp;U=5jsRlfkp25DrIsAkjg.xipamp;c=pamp;o= ``` + +###### {#mvpig_zoom_basics} + +# zoom overview|zoom help|zoom basics + +https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/ + +https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us + +https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362003-Zoom-Video-Communications-Technical-Support + +https://blog.zoom.us/ + +## advanced + +https://devforum.zoom.us/ + +https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/2872010?hl=en + :pcolabnewadd :pcobot: 

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The covidactnow.org model has been updated to cover not two but three possible public reactions: -: (Model changes noticed on Thu 02 Apr 2020) +: (changes noticed on Thu 02 Apr 2020)

 * Limited action /pink/
 * 3 months of Stay at home (poor compliance)  /grey-green/

@@ -229,7 +229,7 @@

 See <https://covidactnow.org/state/WI>

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The covidactnow.org model has been updated to cover not two but three possible public reactions:
(Model changes noticed on Thu 02 Apr 2020) + * Limited action /pink/ * 3 months of Stay at home (poor compliance) /grey-green/ * 3 months of Stay at home (strict compliance) /turquoise/ =================================================================== diff -w -u -r1.942 -r1.943 — site.body.markdown 2020/04/02 13:01:33 1.942 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/04/02 13:25:16 1.943 @@ -220,16 +220,21 @@  top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-Disturbing chg in covid19 model for WI ( Thu 02 Apr 2020 ) -: => peak not reached until late June or early July. I hope this is a mistake: +The covidactnow.org model has been updated to cover not two but three possible public reactions: +: (Model changes noticed on Thu 02 Apr 2020) + * Limited action /pink/ + * 3 months of Stay at home (poor compliance) /grey-green/ + * 3 months of Stay at home (strict compliance) /turquoise/


###### {#cpmue_Hassan_El_Tayyab_interview}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#cpmue_Hassan_El_Tayyab_interview

-FCNL Middle East lobbyist Hassan El Tayyab 30min interview | Mar 27 2020 +FCNL Middle East lobbyist lead Hassan El Tayyab 30min interview | Mar 27 2020 : interview: https://dissentradio.com/radio/20_03_27_tayyab.mp3

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/489381-after-5-years-of-war-in-yemen-american-complicity-must-end

diff -w -u -r1.941 -r1.942 — site.body.markdown 2020/04/02 12:58:50 1.941 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/04/02 13:01:33 1.942 @@ -230,10 +230,11 @@ ###### {#cpmue_Hassan_El_Tayyab_interview}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#cpmue_Hassan_El_Tayyab_interview

FCNL Middle East lobbyist Hassan El Tayyab 30min interview | Mar 27 2020 -: min https://dissentradio.com/radio/20_03_27_tayyab.mp3
+: interview: https://dissentradio.com/radio/20_03_27_tayyab.mp3

 <https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/489381-after-5-years-of-war-in-yemen-american-complicity-must-end>

+—

Dr. Fauci Answers Trevor’s Questions About Coronavirus | youtube - Trevor Noah

diff -w -u -r1.940 -r1.941 — site.body.markdown 2020/04/02 12:38:05 1.940 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/04/02 12:58:50 1.941 @@ -227,8 +227,10 @@


-FCNL Middel East lobbyist Hassan El Tayyab interview | Mar 27 2020 -: 30 min https://dissentradio.com/radio/20_03_27_tayyab.mp3
+###### {#cpmue_Hassan_El_Tayyab_interview}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#cpmue_Hassan_El_Tayyab_interview + +FCNL Middle East lobbyist Hassan El Tayyab 30min interview | Mar 27 2020 +: min https://dissentradio.com/radio/20_03_27_tayyab.mp3

 <https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/489381-after-5-years-of-war-in-yemen-american-complicity-must-end>

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              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

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              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+Dr. Fauci Answers Trevor’s Questions About Coronavirus | youtube - Trevor Noah +: 13 min, down to earth, good advice. + +— + ###### {#tkbbi_jitsi_mayfirst_zoom}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#tkbbi_jitsi_mayfirst_zoom

jitsi vs zoom; mayfirst.coop; update on open source meeting tools

diff -w -u -r1.937 -r1.938 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/28 12:32:28 1.937 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/28 14:29:01 1.938 @@ -224,8 +224,8 @@ jitsi vs zoom; mayfirst.coop; update on open source meeting tools : jitsi vs zoom | hackernews

@@ -232,7 +234,7 @@

 ( I think the pirate party in MA uses 'mayfirst' servers.)

=================================================================== diff -w -u -r1.934 -r1.935 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/28 00:38:06 1.934 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/28 12:26:54 1.935 @@ -219,6 +219,35 @@

              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+###### {#tkbbi_jitsi_mayfirst_zoom}  lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#tkbbi_jitsi_mayfirst_zoom + +jitsi vs zoom; mayfirst.coop; update on open source meeting tools +: jitsi vs zoom | hackernews + + I’ve used jitsi twice (Mar 2020). First impression is good. It uses severl google hangouts conventions. Not sure how it holds up under our currently highly loaded networks. + + Just listened to this…Speaks favorably of jitsi for small groups, and discusses mumble, and several other tools: + + https://mayfirst.coop/media/en/audio/free-software-during-corona-virus-pandemic.mp3 + + ( I think the pirate party in MA uses ‘mayfirst’ servers.) + + Mayfirst has a RSS feed for their podcasts: https://mayfirst.org/en/audio/index.xml + +— + +###### {#dbisl_AsqtAAntifragilityAsqtAO072O} + +‘Antifragility’: +: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-didnt-we-test-our-trades-antifragility-before-covid-19/ + + > Netflix had made themselves “antifragile” by employing software they + > called “Chaos Monkey,” which regularly and randomly brought down Netflix + > servers. By continually crashing their own servers, Netflix learned how to + > nevertheless keep other portions of their network running. + +— + ###### {#cjces_in_person_voting_iffy}  https://zq3q.org/pco/#cjces_in_person_voting_iffy

Apr 7 election | live alone? – getting your vote witnessed | request ballot thru Mar 30 |in person voting iffy

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diff -w -u -r1.932 -r1.933 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 14:28:27 1.932 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 14:29:37 1.933 @@ -14042,6 +14042,8 @@

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Katie

+## work by or about Byron Katie + https://thework.com/

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheWorkofBK

diff -w -u -r1.931 -r1.932 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 14:07:26 1.931 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 14:28:27 1.932 @@ -14031,7 +14031,7 @@

The speaker, Byron Katie is very new to me, so she is not vetted by me. She has that story about talking calmly with her “would be” -asassin; she has a good take on ones sense of self, on thoughts, on +assassin; she has a good take on ones sense of self, on thoughts, on verbal assaults, on not shutting down …

“Peacetalksbyronkatie”: http://prn.fm/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/PT_031718.mp3 @@ -14052,6 +14052,16 @@

I’m Afraid of Trump—The Work of Byron Katie | youtube

+## critics + +http://matthewremski.com/wordpress/byron-katie-case-study/ + +> The encounter begins with a fundamental act of disempowerment that establishes +> Katie as the expert of the subject’s thoughts and problems, as someone who +> can say: your assertions about the future are irrational – even though the +> subject isn’t asserting anything about the future. + + ###### {#wrnxu_Mark_Z._Jacobson_intro}

# Mark Z. Jacobson intro

diff -w -u -r1.930 -r1.931 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 14:02:27 1.930 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 14:07:26 1.931 @@ -14050,6 +14050,8 @@

https://www.facebook.com/theworkofbyronkatie

+I’m Afraid of Trump—The Work of Byron Katie | youtube + ###### {#wrnxu_Mark_Z._Jacobson_intro}

# Mark Z. Jacobson intro

diff -w -u -r1.929 -r1.930 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 12:47:59 1.929 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 14:02:27 1.930 @@ -219,7 +219,7 @@

              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

-###### {#cjces_in_person_voting_iffy} +###### {#cjces_in_person_voting_iffy}  https://zq3q.org/pco/#cjces_in_person_voting_iffy

Apr 7 election | live alone? – getting your vote witnessed | request ballot thru Mar 30 |in person voting iffy
You may request an absentee ballot through Mar 30: https://myvote.wi.gov/en-US/VoteAbsentee @@ -235,6 +235,8 @@ Per Citizen Action discussion, increasingly looking like in person voting may not happen. Citizen Action discussion of Apr 7 election (skip in 36:40 or 35:30 )

-# Byron Katie intro  :bio: +# Byron Katie intro  :bio: lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#akdfn_Byron_Katie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Katie

+https://thework.com/ + +https://www.youtube.com/user/TheWorkofBK + +https://www.azquotes.com/author/7768-Byron_Katie + +https://www.facebook.com/theworkofbyronkatie + ###### {#wrnxu_Mark_Z._Jacobson_intro}

# Mark Z. Jacobson intro

diff -w -u -r1.928 -r1.929 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 12:45:46 1.928 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 12:47:59 1.929 @@ -221,7 +221,7 @@

###### {#cjces_in_person_voting_iffy}

-Apr 7 election | (live alone?) – witnessing absentee ballot vote | request ballot thru Mar 30 |in person voting iffy +Apr 7 election | live alone? – getting your vote witnessed | request ballot thru Mar 30 |in person voting iffy : You may request an absentee ballot through Mar 30: https://myvote.wi.gov/en-US/VoteAbsentee

According to citizens action (Thu Mar 26) /skip in 44:20/ due to the “Safer at Home” directive, you do not have to upload an ID –

diff -w -u -r1.927 -r1.928 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 12:23:51 1.927 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 12:45:46 1.928 @@ -233,7 +233,7 @@ USPS Statement on Coronavirus

 Per Citizen Action discussion, increasingly looking like in person voting may not happen.

=================================================================== diff -w -u -r1.926 -r1.927 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/24 14:38:03 1.926 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/27 12:23:51 1.927 @@ -219,6 +219,24 @@

              top post/tweet :dm:qp8p:

+###### {#cjces_in_person_voting_iffy} + +Apr 7 election | (live alone?) – witnessing absentee ballot vote | request ballot thru Mar 30 |in person voting iffy +: You may request an absentee ballot through Mar 30: https://myvote.wi.gov/en-US/VoteAbsentee + + According to citizens action (Thu Mar 26) /skip in 44:20/ due to the “Safer at Home” directive, you do not have to upload an ID – + if you select “indefinitely confined” – please listen to the citizens action audio for confirmation. + + Open question: If you live alone, what is a safe way to get your ballot witnessed? + Put ballot on the desk, walk 6 feet away, have witness sign…? + + USPS Statement on Coronavirus + + Per Citizen Action discussion, increasingly looking like in person voting may not happen. + Citizen Action discussion of Apr 7 election ( skip in 35:30 ) + +— + I have been following this site – https://www.lesswrong.com – for a while (a year or so?) , and find interesting thinking there: : https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wFTRgeaq5wceEfb2X/lesswrong-coronavirus-agenda

=================================================================== diff -w -u -r1.925 -r1.926 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/19 14:38:03 1.925 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/24 14:38:03 1.926 @@ -17700,6 +17700,10 @@ | http://people.netscape.com/sfraser/mtnw/docs/Usenet.html | http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.txt

+## good questions |asking for help  :=helpask:=questgood: + +https://squigzy.pw/GettingHelpOnIRC + :end !etiquette:!netiquette:quoting practice:toppost:top post:post:!posting:!email_etiquette:!etiq:  } 

=================================================================== diff -w -u -r1.924 -r1.925 — site.body.markdown 2020/03/19 14:12:44 1.924 +++ site.body.markdown 2020/03/19 14:38:03 1.925 @@ -17966,7 +17966,7 @@

###### {#huvwb_Andre_Vltchek_intro}

-# Andre Vltchek intro _a :bio: +# Andre Vltchek intro  :bio:

https://www.facebook.com/andre.vltchek/

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# FreeConferenceCall admits they’re overloaded due to covid19 | Mar 19 2020 +lynx https://zq3q.org/pco/#ivvzn_FreeConferenceCall_admits_theyAsqtAre_overloaded_due_to_covid19_O174O_Mar_19_2020 +

Subject: FCC/FreeConferenceCall admits they're overloaded due to covid19
===================================================================
diff -w -u -r1.921 -r1.922
--- site.body.markdown  2020/03/18 12:38:06 1.921
+++ site.body.markdown  2020/03/19 14:10:30 1.922
@@ -12906,7 +12906,7 @@

### [Checking/Accepting HANGOUTS invitations](#cynjr_CheckingAslashAAccepting_HANGOUTS_invitations)   https://zq3q.org/pco/#jjojl_hangouts-invites

-[my youtube video help](https://youtu.be/_sc4yFJxsaI)
+[video-help on accepting hangouts-invites](https://youtu.be/_sc4yFJxsaI)

Phone, Desktop or Laptop:

@@ -18172,6 +18172,123 @@

familiarity: Since ~summer 2019 or earlier?

+###### {#ivvzn_FreeConferenceCall_admits_theyAsqtAre_overloaded_due_to_covid19_O174O_Mar_19_2020}
+
+# [FreeConferenceCall admits they're overloaded due to covid19 | Mar 19 2020](#ivvzn_FreeConferenceCall_admits_theyAsqtAre_overloaded_due_to_covid19_O174O_Mar_19_2020)
+
+```
+Subject: FCC/FreeConferenceCall admits they're overloaded due to covid19
+
+I scrubbed this email to obfuscate identities and domains.  FCC is overloaded.
+The showstopper is garbled sound -- to the point that we've abandoned the FCC meetings
+for say google hangouts instead. 'jitsi' in one case this week did not work any better.
+
+Preliminary tests by several of us suggest that google hangouts video calls,
+and possibly zoom video meetings are handling the load better. Time will tell.
+
+On Thu 3/19/20 3:07 -0000 a Byrd Titus wrote:
+> Yes, it happened to a moba game I play as well. There is probably some
+> communications lockdown going on.
+> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
+> -------- Original Message --------
+> On Mar 18, 2020, 3:36 PM, Anvil Pol < enolbreve@felix.notadomain> wrote:
+> 
+> Seems like FCC is having bandwidth problems; they say everyone is.
+> There was also a note from Discord asking us to report access issues.
+>   ____________________________________________________________________
+> 
+> From: "FreeConferenceCall.com" <noreply@freeconferencecall.com>
+> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 3:21 PM
+> To: enolbreve@felix.notadomain
+> Subject: An Update From FreeConferenceCall.com
+> 
+>                       [1]FreeConferenceCall logo
+> 
+> Hi Everyone,
+> 
+> First off thank you to everyone for your patience and support. We truly
+> do have the best community of users in the world.
+> 
+> Importantly, we are working around the clock to add capacity and
+> bandwidth. These are unprecedented times. Never before in history have
+> so many people looked to phone networks and the internet to stay
+> connected. This has placed a strain on all methods of communication.
+> Undoubtedly some of you have experienced this on our network. I
+> personally have experienced it even just trying to call friends and
+> family from my cell phone. All of our fellow conferencing providers
+> around the world are doing everything they can to minimize outages. We
+> fully understand the frustration this has undoubtedly caused. Please
+> know everyone is working to get this remedied. We understand the
+> gravity and importance of coming through for you now. This is true of
+> us and our fellow conferencing providers. Because of that we want you
+> to know that we understand the responsibility we now carry and that we
+> will come through for you.
+> 
+> To that end, here are some tips to help make sure you’re able to stay
+> connected:
+>  1. Download the latest version of our mobile app. We’ve built in call
+>     routing technology to help avoid phone carriers that are
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+>     in and received a busy signal. [2]Download for iPhone or
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+>  2. Schedule meetings 5, 15, 45, or 50 minutes past the hour. As an
+>     example try scheduling your meeting to start at 9:50 instead of
+>     10:00. This is because demand surges on the hour and the half hour
+>     and your phone carriers network will be most strained at those
+>     times.
+>  3. If you call in and receive a busy signal send a text that says
+>     “Help” to your conferences dial-in number. We will then send you
+>     backup numbers that you can use.
+>  4. If you have AT&T, tweet them @ATT and tell them they need to stop
+>     blocking calls to [4]FreeConferenceCall.com. It is almost
+>     unbelievable to us, but even during this crisis they are blocking
+>     calls to competitors. For many of you who have received busy
+>     signals when dialing in, this is likely the reason why. Please
+>     tweet them and tell them that during this time it is more important
+>     than ever that we all band together.
+> 
+> Finally, to our incredible, incredible community. Many of you have
+> chosen to make contributions to help us keep providing free
+> communications to people all over the world. We want to take this
+> moment to thank you. To see our community be there for us and for each
+> other, supporting us and their fellow Free Conference Callers, means
+> more than we can say. If you’d like to learn more [5]here’s a quick
+> video.
+> 
+> From everyone here, thank you.
+> 
+> Dave Erickson
+> CEO and Founder of [6]FreeConferenceCall.com
+> 
+> 
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+> 1. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=m~amp;o=
+> 2. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=r~amp;o=
+> 3. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=q~amp;o=
+> 4. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=n~amp;o=
+> 5. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=o~amp;o=
+> 6. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=k~amp;o=
+> 7. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=y~amp;o=
+> 8. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=t~amp;o=
+> 9. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=s~amp;o=
+>   10. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=u~amp;o=
+>   11. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=v~amp;o=
+>   12. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=w~amp;o=
+>   13. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=x~amp;o=
+>   14. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gcH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=l~amp;o=
+>   15. http://etrack.freeconferencecall.com/t/gdH1AAjbaBYNdQADZ5BELv2GqaH1SlJSRZsaaaaIDHoBPHE2Ekaa?k=A_tEzFuE~amp;U=5jsRlfkp~25DrIsAkjg.xip~amp;c=p~amp;o=
+```
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+I have been following this site -- <https://www.lesswrong.com> -- for a while (a year or so?) , and find interesting thinking there:
+:   <https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wFTRgeaq5wceEfb2X/lesswrong-coronavirus-agenda>
+
+    ( long w/many links )
+
+---
+
Assange case gets mainstream coverage (7min)! Tucker Carlson interviews activist Roger Walters (pink floyd):
:   <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8lRg-DVNdc >